NE146 Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Sorry but the 2600 version of Space Invaders is NOT better than the arcade game.. sure it added a few things (zig zag, moving shields, fast bombs, invisible invaders, and a fat laser base option) but it also LOST a lot of things, counting shots, variable ufo values, invader pt. values, rainbow trick, invaders not firing on the lowest row, etc. Plus the gameplay is totally different. Anyway some of those options are pretty much useless (moving shields?? who the hell plays that?) Like I've said numerous times before, 2600 Space Invaders is so different, if you're going to call it better than the arcade game, you might as well call Intellivisions Space Armada better than the arcade as well.. get my point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 How could I forget Tapper??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 20, 2002 Author Share Posted October 20, 2002 Sorry but the 2600 version of Space Invaders is NOT better than the arcade game.. While you make some goodpoints, the 2600 version seems to move much smoother and faster than the arcade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostalgic Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 How about Warlords? Sure, the home version is round-based rather than point-based, has only one ball in play, and features some questionable computer A.I. (why don't you hit yourself _again_?), but it's a classic multi-player game and keeps the fast action of the arcade version. Actually, until the Atari emulation packs started coming out, I didn't even know Warlords had been an arcade game. That shows which version got the most attention... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriana Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Hands down, the most faithful, flawless, accurate arcade translation, "can't tell the difference between the 2600 version and the arcade version" is... Pong on the Video Olympics cartridge. Come on, you all know it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Moon Patrol Runner Up: Crossbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night Phantom Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Hands down, the most faithful, flawless, accurate arcade translation, "can't tell the difference between the 2600 version and the arcade version" is... Pong on the Video Olympics cartridge. Come on, you all know it's true. Nah, arcade Pong wasn’t in color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryckster Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Starpath Frogger! IMO it's the most faithful port I have seen for the 2600 in graphics, sound and gameplay. When I first played it I was actually amazed by the amount of content that was kept in this version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooterb23 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Vanguard Reactor Circus Atari (an old arcade game called Clowns I believe) Canyon Bomber Warlords Missile Command and I love Defender on the 2600 much more than the arcade version... never really dug Stargate though, no real reason why... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmeroid Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Crystal Castles is more playable on the 2600 than the coin-op, visually not as good but more enjoyable! Reactor is another excellent port along with Frogger, Crossbow and Track & Field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy_Dude Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Hands down, the most faithful, flawless, accurate arcade translation, "can't tell the difference between the 2600 version and the arcade version" is... Pong on the Video Olympics cartridge. Come on, you all know it's true. Nah, arcade Pong wasn’t in color. Maby i got a bad cart but my Video olympics is in black and white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidy Nolen Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 I think for overall play value, Bump N Jump is the closest port. Jr. Pac Man feels really close too. Night Driver is no where near the original. The original only has white dots for the road, and is MUCH more fun. I visited the COSI museum arcade in Ohio this last year, and to my disgust, they were running a 2600 emulator inside a cockpit Night Driver arcade machine! ICK. I know for fact there was a running (for profit) Night Driver cockpit in St. Louis until the late 90's (that is an amazing feat of engineering, that many years on location, I cannot think of another besides Pac Man with that staying power!). Other honorable mentions would be Warlords and (dont shoot me) Video Olympics (set on black and white) . Just my .25. Cassidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 22, 2002 Author Share Posted October 22, 2002 Okay, gathering everything up, I'll have to choose certain games for the article. How's this list: Best: Stargate/Defender II Crystal Castles Space Invaders Video Olympics Night Driver Jr. Pac-Man Ms. Pac-man Gravitar Worst: Pac-Man Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr. Double Dragon Honorable mentions: Xenophobe Mario Bros. This list is subject to some editing, so we'll how everything works out. I still have to write an intro, we don't wantthe actual list too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 You're still forgetting Millipede and Galaxian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Don't forget too that while they're often overlooked or disregarded, some of the hacks done in recent years have really made some of the classic 2600 Arcade ports even better, and even making them IMHO some of the BEST of the 2600 arcade conversions. These games are highly playable either via the cuttlecart, or DC-Stella on the dreamcast, or just a pc emu.. or of course, Hozer. So here, in my opinion are the 4 best arcade ports that just also happen to be hacks. Unless you're a purist, I'd rather play these versions any day over their original cart releases. 1. Asteroids DC+ Faster asteroids, more varied and angled asteroid movement (i.e. not just up and down), improved reserve ship display, and simulated 'vector graphics' (originally done by yours truly *ahem*) make THIS the Asteroids of choice to play for the 2600 in my book. 2. Galaxian. Let's face it, the original's gameplay was good, but that friggin bright orange border was ugly as sh*t and did absolutely no justice to the original arcade game. The removal of it INSTANTLY makes the feel and look of the game that much more closer to the arcade, and a redo of the aliens graphics helps out as well. It's definitely "2600 Galaxian" unlike the original which required a somewhat small leap of faith... 3. Pacman This needs no explanation. Pacman music, ghost sirens, the correct fruit. It's all there baby. I still play this constantly to see how far I can make it past the Key level. 4. Berzerk - Voice Enhanced. Of course we all know this one. Great port originally, with arcade voice now added. 'nuff said Honorable mention: Mario Bros, Space Invaders, simply for the graphics. (speaking of which..and hopefully soon, Space Instigators). Then Thomas' controller hacks like for Omega Race, and Missile Command. Times are pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 23, 2002 Author Share Posted October 23, 2002 Okay, that's a good idea, I'll include a mention of some of the excellent hacks that have been produced (expect Berzerk and Return of Mario Bros. to get mentions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night Phantom Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Maby i got a bad cart but my Video olympics is in black and white I don’t suppose you’ve tried toggling the B&W/color switch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy_Dude Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Of course i have the switch on color. What do you think i am, an amature! Oh wait I am Iv tried everything short of opening it up and re-soldering. Its definitly B&W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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