flashjazzcat Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 this is project of 10 years.. I hope the GUI is still in development 20 - 30 years from now. That will mean it hasn't faded into oblivion. The rest is up to developers. I'm committed to having a platform ready by this time next year. API specs should be published in six months. That's not to say things won't constantly change and improve; a system like this will probably never be "finished". Look at SpartaDOS X... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 this is project of 10 years.. I hope the GUI is still in development 20 - 30 years from now. That will mean it hasn't faded into oblivion. The rest is up to developers. I'm committed to having a platform ready by this time next year. API specs should be published in six months. That's not to say things won't constantly change and improve; a system like this will probably never be "finished". Look at SpartaDOS X... Hi kids! Hi Pee Wee! Today we're gonna learn a fun song... well, at least I think it's a fun song, haha, well anyway, it's a little ditty called the " ", and I'm sure that once you've heard it once, it will be looping in your head FOREVER, on days like this, so come on, sing along! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi kids! Hi Pee Wee! Today we're gonna learn a fun song... well, at least I think it's a fun song, haha, well anyway, it's a little ditty called the " ", and I'm sure that once you've heard it once, it will be looping in your head FOREVER, on days like this, so come on, sing along! Wrong thread. Try the SpartaDOS X MyIDE driver topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi kids! Hi Pee Wee! Today we're gonna learn a fun song... well, at least I think it's a fun song, haha, well anyway, it's a little ditty called the " ", and I'm sure that once you've heard it once, it will be looping in your head FOREVER, on days like this, so come on, sing along! Wrong thread. Try the SpartaDOS X MyIDE driver topic. "In Soviet Playhouse, you don't program GUI, GUI program you." - Comrade Herman = ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel-Emma Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) I so can't wait for flashjazzcat to finish this GUI project and I hope many people offer generous donations to him when he releases the programme for us Atari Users. He's worked so hard on this project and deserves a lot of credit. Good luck with working on it over this weekend Jon - I hope you get a decent amount done with no disruptions Edited June 24, 2011 by Rachel-Emma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmilo Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 He just has to make api for A8 Appstore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Willy Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I'm waiting on Amiga mouse support so I can try it on my 65XE with the Boing! mouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 I so can't wait for flashjazzcat to finish this GUI project and I hope many people offer generous donations to him when he releases the programme for us Atari Users. He's worked so hard on this project and deserves a lot of credit. Good luck with working on it over this weekend Jon - I hope you get a decent amount done with no disruptions Thanks Rachel. Unfortunately my bit on the SIDE will consume a large portion of my time. He just has to make api for A8 Appstore Let's hope there's something on the shelves. I'm waiting on Amiga mouse support so I can try it on my 65XE with the Boing! mouse. I'll get that sorted ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Here's something I stumbled (or re-stumbled, as Nabokov might say) upon yesterday: This was a David Sullivan project from the mid to late eighties. I could only get it running with SpartaDOS 3.x: goedemo.zip Judging by the notes, there was a lot of argy-bargy about copyright, freeloading, piracy, etc, etc, and the UI leaves one under no uncertainty as to the origin of the code. This is the most recent demo I could locate. The windows appear to be static (like GEOS), and the and the mouse-pointer is a (very flickery) soft-sprite. These old GUI systems all appear to be wearing lead boots, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibrewire Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I sent all my toys away for the moment, so I only have FJC updates to look forward to. What were they thinking back then? A logo is one thing, but with so little usable space - to have a 12-pixel bar occupying the bottom of the screen with copyright info is a waste of valuable space. If I'd known that when I was in school, the entire bottom half of each page of every composition would have my logo, copyright, and disclaimer info across the bottom of each page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 I sent all my toys away for the moment, so I only have FJC updates to look forward to. Gotta get SIDE finished first, but nearly done then I'll be right back on it. Can't wait. What were they thinking back then? A logo is one thing, but with so little usable space - to have a 12-pixel bar occupying the bottom of the screen with copyright info is a waste of valuable space. I understood this was normal practice in the US... But seriously, I hope this was just a feature of the demo (or was intended to be dropped, in any case, given that the thing appears never to have been finished). As I mentioned before, the text files in one of the GOE demo releases suggest the author had a lot of beef with "pirates". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) Sorry - double post. Edited July 4, 2011 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpj1138 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 You know, some people say that the british have an accent? The canadians are pretty much american, except they pronounce a few words differently, like "aboot"? Was there ever a british keyboard that you know of? I've been trying to find it for years, keep asking about it, but no one seems have the first clue. Then there are all these imitators around the planet, like the middle east people. Who do they look to for guidance? Us? You? The devil? Well, you keep doing what you're doing, see where it gets you. By the way, are you at all interested in music? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibrewire Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 For years I thought that spam was created autonomously by software that concatenates phrase segments together using loosely knit sentence structure. Now I know - bpj1138 writes the stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpj1138 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 you wanna talk to god more closely, talk to a person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibrewire Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Elucidate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpj1138 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Elucidate... I'm gonna take a wild guess, and presuppose you meant "illuminate"? Uhhh... God is inside all of us? Or the devil, whichever you prefer. At the end of the day, I prefer God over the Devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Get back ON TOPIC. Please 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpj1138 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 So next thing to do is to write a text editor, and maybe a clock. You will need a multitasking OS to make this all work.. Hopefully everything will be clipped properly in assembler, that way it's as fast as possible, so we can get back to the past when things were better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibrewire Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 hehe - elucidate means to explain. I figured you were on one of those sleep-deprived rants that I often experience myself. AG: strange things happen when i don't get my regular dose of intellectual nourishment from AtariAge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpj1138 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Yeah, generally you find cool people around obsurd things like the 6502 assembly language. Things like that have become ways to find interesting people. Hell, you never know who you're talking to. I myself am a holder of the Earth's greatest physical science theory, ie "Push Gravity" and the greatest blunder in human history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibrewire Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I myself am a holder of the Earth's greatest physical science theory, ie "Push Gravity" and the greatest blunder in human history. That's cool, I am a brain too. But there are so many things you could apply your life to... what good is the science unless there is practical application? I myself am a holder of - a Korean BEER! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 So next thing to do is to write a text editor, and maybe a clock. You will need a multitasking OS to make this all work.. Hopefully everything will be clipped properly in assembler, that way it's as fast as possible, so we can get back to the past when things were better. I'm not writing a multitasking OS in the first instance. That's been said about a dozen times elsewhere in this thread. This doesn't mean there won't be a clock. In addition, the next thing to do is not to write a text editor. There's about six months' work to do before that happens. So even these attempts to get "back on topic" aren't especially helpful. As for the other entirely irrelevant posts... well, they make a long thread just that little bit more difficult to navigate. Thanks for that! I'm busy with other pressing stuff, as I have a right to be right now, and this thread will light up again just as soon as I or someone else has something useful to say regarding this project. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) I don't know if this would help at all (maybe someone already said this or you have already fixed mouse problems even), and maybe this is entering the realm of too much extra hardware, but for the mouse routine, you could implement a hardware decoder that utilizes digital potentiometers and the paddle inputs on a joystick port so that the quadrature decoding would not have to be done in software. this would also give absolute coordinates for the mouse instead of relative coordinates which would mean you might not need to "calculate" the new coordinates. of course due to the way paddles are read on the atari, this may take more time than decoding the mouse in software. Nevertheless it is my idea on ways to make this gui better.(possibly) Edited July 15, 2011 by Joey Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I don't know if this would help at all (maybe someone already said this or you have already fixed mouse problems even), and maybe this is entering the realm of too much extra hardware, but for the mouse routine, you could implement a hardware decoder that utilizes digital potentiometers and the paddle inputs on a joystick port so that the quadrature decoding would not have to be done in software. this would also give absolute coordinates for the mouse instead of relative coordinates which would mean you might not need to "calculate" the new coordinates. of course due to the way paddles are read on the atari, this may take more time than decoding the mouse in software. Nevertheless it is my idea on ways to make this gui better.(possibly) You just described the 5200 trackball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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