MEtalGuy66 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 If it's not too late, you can throw this on there, if you like: 130XE Slide Show.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 If it's not too late, you can throw this on there, if you like: 130XE Slide Show.zip That´s fine. Wille be on the disc. It´s near 11 am here now. Hope to get all released about 2 pm, so that even rybags can have a look at it on New Years Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaPa Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Ok, just sent our (MaPa & PG) little entry. The idea came too late, just two days ago so it's quick and dirty work. It should have been better, maybe some other time The idea is not new but I hope it's a little better (more complicated) than I ever saw. Enjoy. Just noticed it works ok only in PAL, in NTSC not enough time in one frame (again as usual) so the intro will get slower at certain point, at least the music, the motion has correct speed it seems but more coarse. Sorry, get a PAL ATARi or watch in emu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaPa Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 If it's not too late, you can throw this on there, if you like: 130XE Slide Show.zip That´s fine. Wille be on the disc. It´s near 11 am here now. Hope to get all released about 2 pm, so that even rybags can have a look at it on New Years Day It's 14:39! where is it?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 PMSL. He sent me an email saying he hoped I get it at the right time. Problem is, I don't think he's accounted for Daylight Savings... already almost 1AM here 2nd Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) PMSL. He sent me an email saying he hoped I get it at the right time. Problem is, I don't think he's accounted for Daylight Savings... already almost 1AM here 2nd Jan. Thats right, I didn´t have that in mind, since we got last two days about 20cm fresh snow in Berlin - so DST is far from mind Anyway, it´s time for release now - why, hmmm I´m ready just in time Hope you all have fun with it - even it´s for some of us not 1.1.2010 anymore... NYD_2010.zip Edited January 1, 2010 by pps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Good stuff. Interesting "bitplane" demo, and some good music, especially on Disk 2. With my pic... you can alternate between the static and "filled" effect by pressing Space. Edited January 1, 2010 by Rybags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 I just put it online at pouet.net. http://www.pouet.net...php?which=54240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Is there anywhere to download the previous NYD versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Is there anywhere to download the previous NYD versions? Several ones Somewhere within this forum at pouet.net you can find the 2009 edition too at my homepage: www.ppsberlin.de (all but 2010, have to redesign the whole site - the cms version is old and sucks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Well done everybody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyace Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 With my pic... you can alternate between the static and "filled" effect by pressing Space. Your picture is pretty cool - I like the 'higher res' feel it gives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelen Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Fantastic work everyone ! It was great watching all the demo's and to re-think 2009 over Thanks to PPS for making the disk ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Awesome 1st disk! I will be hooking up the PAL machine so I can see on real hardware later in the day. Rybags - your pic is excellent. MaPa - cool as usual. Stephen Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Happy New Year to everyone. @Thelen We really should start NOW for our new production on the NYD for 2011 Greetings to all from Marius "Inspiration-Soft" 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Happy New Year to everyone. @Thelen We really should start NOW for our new production on the NYD for 2011 Greetings to all from Marius "Inspiration-Soft" 1976 Hmm, that is a nice idea But thrust me, every year I had this "coding feeling" at xmas holidays and even, if I had planned, I did nothing accross the year for this collection. Most times I did my stuff just before deadline @bf2k+: I managed to get the actual edition onto my still not updated old cms - so there you can find all NYD for download: ppsberlin.de dl section Even at fandal's site there are the New Years Discs archived too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hi everybody, Really cool to see all those entries. I really didn't expect so many people to participate. Note on the nice HIRES slideshow: Boot with BASIC and RUN "D:MAIN.BAS". If you don't have at least 128K you may wonder what is special (like I did first picking the wrong XL). But when you run it on a machine with a memory extension which support separate CPU/ANTIC access you'll see nice results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 @peter.dell What an incredible cool intro did you guys produce! I really really REALLY love it. I have a brother in law who sometimes really p*ss-on my beloved atari 8bit, but I'm sure he will appreciate your colorful rainbow-from-mars thing. Incredible. I know atari 8bit can do a lot of things. And I remember your toilet-demo at the JHV 2002... (Am I right it was you who wrote that rotating toilet demo?) But man, this is fabulous. Thanks. Marius p.s. I love that bitplane thing too ... very cool work. And the dancing snowman looks good to me too. I'd almost say: hey guys you understand how to create Inspiration-Soft quality (joke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) 1) What an incredible cool intro did you guys produce! I 2) And I remember your toilet-demo at the JHV 2002... (Am I right it was you who wrote that rotating toilet demo?) Hi Marius, 1) Thanks. Actually this is technically neither very adanced nor complicated. The design of the transparency cross fader for the top logo and the sync with the music took most of the time. It started as party place production at the HomeCon 3 where I wanted to show all the C64 guys, what I can put togehter in a few hours with my IDE. The hard part was to make it load (and return) under normal DOS, that's where FOX's inflate routine came into play. For some strange reason I gave myself the limit of $4000 for the thingy, so it had to rework some parts later. Since there have been requests, I'll try to enable it also for NTSC. 2) You mean this one here: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=51419. Yes it was done by me and my wife makes fun of me whenever possible since ever since the day I released it. Maybe one day she'll understand that digital art needs no justification Actually that was is also a port of one of the best Amiga demos ever: Hardwired. Look as 2:43 in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CGOh-jb4Q. Originally I used it only to test my GTIA packer which can be used from real-time unpacking of grayscale pics back in 1992. When I started coding for my Atari again after 10 years in 2002, I found it was worth releasing. And before anybody claims that I do nothing but rips: I was memeber of an Amiga Demo group back then and we had a kind of "competition". Whenever one of my friends showed up some new and cool on his Amiga, I claimed to do the same on my XL within the next 4 weeks. It really was fun to see their faces then Regarding the bitplane, MaPa has released the sources (Thanks!). So I have adapted it for NTSC meanwhile (for there really seem to be NTSC people I was not aware of) and try to fix the bug which I see on my (PAL) hardware. Vertical scrolling is missing. But just wait and see... I hope it's no due to my hardware. Edited January 2, 2010 by peter.dell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaPa Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Regarding the bitplane, MaPa has released the sources (Thanks!). So I have adapted it for NTSC meanwhile (for there really seem to be NTSC people I was not aware of) and try to fix the bug which I see on my (PAL) hardware. Vertical scrolling is missing. But just wait and see... I hope it's no due to my hardware. The vertical scroller takes the most CPU time, not surprising when it copies 1200 bytes of PMG data per frame And what bug are you talking about? I just want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JAC! Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hi MaPa, The VSCROLL does not work. The lines do scroll at a rate of 8 lines vertically on my PAL XL (tested on two of them). The reason seems to be that all visible lines processed by ANTIC in mode 5 have the VSCROLL bit set so the internal line counter is never reset. If I reduce the DL by one mode 5 line so that the last one ending the VSCROLL area is visible it works fine. But then some line are missing from the overscan. So now that I wrote it, I assume Rybags submits a comment If I find the time later I'll try to find out how this reset can be forced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hi MaPa, The VSCROLL does not work. The lines do scroll at a rate of 8 lines vertically on my PAL XL (tested on two of them). The reason seems to be that all visible lines processed by ANTIC in mode 5 have the VSCROLL bit set so the internal line counter is never reset. If I reduce the DL by one mode 5 line so that the last one ending the VSCROLL area is visible it works fine. But then some line are missing from the overscan. So now that I wrote it, I assume Rybags submits a comment If I find the time later I'll try to find out how this reset can be forced. As far as I remember (oh my... it is only two days ago) the demo was running perfect on PAL emulator... but when I saw it on my 65XE (PAL) I was a bit disappointed. Perhaps this problem only happens on real hardware in PAL? I think I saw the same on my 65XE. The background (when the scroller appears) looks like there is some kind of "lower framerate" happening on /REAL/ hardware. Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Just checked out Bitplanes on real machine... bummer. I'd have thought that VScrol would reset at the bottom of frame. I notice via the emulator you do have the last line with VScrol not set on the DList. Could you try a version that has just one Blank line at the very top of the Display List? In such cases that VScrol is still active, a subsequent Blank Line/s should grow and shrink dependant on the VScrol value. The other consideration is that the Jump Vertical Blank is probably not being executed... so ensure that it gets stored in the VBlank. That brings up yet another thing... if you have an immediate VBlank routine that goes too long, the shadow display list pointer is copied and can cause corruption if the display list is already being read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaPa Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) Yep, the dlist is too long but as it worked in emu I didn't bother. I just wanted to set up real ATARI here and test it myself. Took it from the case, get all the cables, hoped that my SIO2PC cable will work (done by myself therefore the doubts). Bring small TV from other room, connected ATARI, tuned the singal (RF output). Then restarted PC, allowed COM port in BIOS, crawled under the table to connet the SIO2PC and just discovered there is no COM port on the back and I don't have the reduction from motherboard... so I decided to use notebook from my work even I would need first copy the binary from PC to notebook but guess what, the notebook is without COM port too Damn. I need to get the COM port reduction ASAP.. maybe it's in motherboard's box, let's go find out. EDIT: no, nothing Edited January 3, 2010 by MaPa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 There's always Option B - create a cassette version then just use Wav2Cas. I haven't really experimented a lot with 240 scanlines with all scrolling - there might be some inconsistencies that aren't well known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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