SlowCoder Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 We have both a light and heavy 2600 list floating around. Post your serial and specs about it and * hopefully * the OP will update the list. I think this method of data collection is haphazard at best. Not that people would intentionally post incorrect data, but that the maintainer might stop updating because they've moved on to other things, or because someone who listed theirs 2 years ago sold theirs, but didn't bother to update it in the list. Don't get me wrong, I think this kind of data is good for historical and academic purposes, but I think we need to find a better way to keep it. Any suggestions? Perhaps some automated site that collects the data from owners, including things like whether the system is intended for collection, or will eventually be sold. If someone says it's part of their collection, the serial remains listed for 2 years, and if for sale, 6 months. Owners would need to periodically log in to maintain their listing, and if they don't the serials enter "historical data/archival" mode. If someone new posts the same serial, maybe the site emails the last owner asking if the ownership was transferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 We have both a light and heavy 2600 list floating around. Post your serial and specs about it and * hopefully * the OP will update the list. I think this method of data collection is haphazard at best. Not that people would intentionally post incorrect data, but that the maintainer might stop updating because they've moved on to other things, or because someone who listed theirs 2 years ago sold theirs, but didn't bother to update it in the list. Don't get me wrong, I think this kind of data is good for historical and academic purposes, but I think we need to find a better way to keep it. Any suggestions? Perhaps some automated site that collects the data from owners, including things like whether the system is intended for collection, or will eventually be sold. If someone says it's part of their collection, the serial remains listed for 2 years, and if for sale, 6 months. Owners would need to periodically log in to maintain their listing, and if they don't the serials enter "historical data/archival" mode. If someone new posts the same serial, maybe the site emails the last owner asking if the ownership was transferred. While that might be a good idea, I wouldn't be using it. It would take me HOURS to dig all that stuff out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Maybe "Pin" it in the forum so it's the first thing to show up? Or see if Al could set up a separate section for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowCoder Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 While that might be a good idea, I wouldn't be using it. It would take me HOURS to dig all that stuff out again. Just how many consoles do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) While that might be a good idea, I wouldn't be using it. It would take me HOURS to dig all that stuff out again. Just how many consoles do you have? You don't really want to know my full inventory. Edited July 27, 2011 by zylon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowCoder Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 While that might be a good idea, I wouldn't be using it. It would take me HOURS to dig all that stuff out again. Just how many consoles do you have? You don't really want to know my full inventory. Color me jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) I'll PM you my inventory if you really must know on condition that it stays quiet. I've hung on to more than usual because of the price of chips.(IC's) I can usually get whole deck for price of new TIA Edited July 27, 2011 by zylon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowCoder Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'll PM you my inventory if you really must know on condition that it stays quiet. I've hung on to more than usual because of the price of chips.(IC's) I can usually get whole deck for price of new TIA I don't NEED to know, was just curious. I've seen pics of some folks console stacks, up to the ceiling. One wonders how they don't get killed trying to move stuff around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I remember reading a post a few months back that had how many and what kind of Atari models ppl on here had...I think I posted on it what I had at the time...some ppl had over 100's of consoles!!! I forget what post that was I myself have 2 light 6-switchers (Original (fixed by me thankx to zylon), 3-way modded (S-vid-AV, LED, Pause), vader, Heavy 6-switch (currently in process of fixing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) I'll PM you my inventory if you really must know on condition that it stays quiet. I've hung on to more than usual because of the price of chips.(IC's) I can usually get whole deck for price of new TIA I don't NEED to know, was just curious. I've seen pics of some folks console stacks, up to the ceiling. One wonders how they don't get killed trying to move stuff around. about 1/10th total Atari inventory, or 1/5th vcs stock Back on topic, if we track systems; it should only be unique or special models and not regular millions-produced stuff. Edited July 27, 2011 by zylon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 We have both a light and heavy 2600 list floating around. Post your serial and specs about it and * hopefully * the OP will update the list. I think this method of data collection is haphazard at best. Not that people would intentionally post incorrect data, but that the maintainer might stop updating because they've moved on to other things, or because someone who listed theirs 2 years ago sold theirs, but didn't bother to update it in the list. Don't get me wrong, I think this kind of data is good for historical and academic purposes, but I think we need to find a better way to keep it. Any suggestions? Perhaps some automated site that collects the data from owners, including things like whether the system is intended for collection, or will eventually be sold. If someone says it's part of their collection, the serial remains listed for 2 years, and if for sale, 6 months. Owners would need to periodically log in to maintain their listing, and if they don't the serials enter "historical data/archival" mode. If someone new posts the same serial, maybe the site emails the last owner asking if the ownership was transferred. If the OP abandons the list someone can volunteer to update it. I don't think it really matters if someone sells a light or heavy. It is the information about the unit that is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowCoder Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 about 1/10th total Atari inventory, or 1/5th vcs stock You're not running out of chips any time soon. Back on topic, if we track systems; it should only be unique or special models and not regular millions-produced stuff. I was figuring if a tool was designed, it could include any model Atari console, and clones. That way people could have bragging rights. (You'd be upper echelon, apparently. ) If the OP abandons the list someone can volunteer to update it. I don't think it really matters if someone sells a light or heavy. It is the information about the unit that is important. But the heavy list sat for years without being updated. The author apparently disappeared, and it took a long time for someone to volunteer. If a separate tool was created, each person would be responsible for their own listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 But the heavy list sat for years without being updated. The author apparently disappeared, and it took a long time for someone to volunteer. If a separate tool was created, each person would be responsible for their own listing. I agree but I doubt anyone would make that kind of tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I still don't know what the $%&@ lists like these are supposed to accomplish Enlighten me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I still don't know what the $%&@ lists like these are supposed to accomplish Enlighten me. Create a record of transitional forms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 SlowCoder: I decided to create an ENTIRE list of both Atari 2600 Heavy & Light consoles from the 2 latest post in MS Excel. When I'm done I can send you the file and you can let me know what you think of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If ApolloBoy and Wester don't mind I'll take over the Atari 2600 list. Let me know what you all think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Here is an unfinished list I created...Lemme know what you think! Atari Age - List of Atari 2600 Consoles (07-28-2011).xls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 The most consoles I had at one time was a little over 50. I got rid of them to a friend short of a few extras I now have plus my own personal ones. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 UPDATE: So I talked to both Wester and ApolloBoy and ApolloBoy is still gonna keep track of the light 6-switch list, and Wester said that I can take over the Heavy 6-switch List. So now I'm gonna keep track of the Heavy 6-switch list...after I finish updating the current list from 2009-present I'm gonna start a new thread with the updated list from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss 2600 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Thanks, Mark T. Now my Heavy Sixer can finally be included! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 No problem! I will also post on here and the 'old' heavy 6-switch forum when I'm completely up to date...actually come to think of it I was originally planning on starting two new forums: one to discuss a more structured format for keeping these records, and one of an updated forum that I will start to continue the list. BUT since thins forum is up why don't we discuss the structured format here? For example I think it should be set up as follows: (Note: I am keeping the updated list in MS Excel) Serial # / AA Member or Owner / CH Select Switch / Channel Hole / MFG Date / Notes Thanks, Mark T. Now my Heavy Sixer can finally be included! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Might be best to skip dates as most of the date coding is for individual parts, not the system's assembly. Your RF modulator might be one date, but motherboard from another date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 zylon: I agree! I think the serial #'s are good enough to determine when it was manufactured since they apparently started with #'s then went to their lettering scheme on the 6th character of the serial number. I also think stating it is a Sunnyvale or not is pointless since the Taiwan models ONLY have a "T" in the serial number...not 100% sure if that's correct but that is my assumption. So I think only stating Taiwan only and by default will be Sunnyvale. Also, Update: I have caught up with the data in the heavy 6-switch thread!!! I haven't organized by serial number tho, I just appended the new serial numbers at the bottom of what was posted in post #2 from 2009. I will post what I have thus far...date is wrong it should be the 30th Also +, should I continue with organizing the serial numbers from early to latest? Anyone know the 'timeline' scheme for the serial numbers? Thanks!!! Atari Age - List of Atari 2600 Heavy 6-Switch Consoles (07-29-2011).xls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 The letter suffixes are production runs regardless of location. The numbers only units came afterwards. Taiwan units had channel switch, sunnyvales didn't at first. The letter suffixes carried on into L6er production as well. Look at that list and you'll see. Sears units had letters later in the alphabet RSTUV, etc while Atari units used earlier letters EFGH, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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