LynxVGL Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 So I'm on the bubble about picking up some Activison Carts for the CV. I know that Activisions policy back in the day was to NOT radically improve game quality across platforms (unlike Imagic) and am looking for some input on the Quality of the original 2600 Ports. Pitfall looks identical except for some minor cosmetic changes, is this the same for Pitfall 2? River Raid has some improvements, no? I don't have a current emulator to gauge quality so some community input would be nice before I continue my eBay searches. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I know asking for other people's opinion is easier than installing/configuring an emulator on your computer and downloading/testing ROMs, but really, you're asking people to make decisions for you which you should be making by yourself, for yourself. With this said, there's really no reason to purchase Activision games on the CV if you're okay with the Atari 2600 versions. All you get with the CV versions is improved graphic quality (sound/music is rather close). The games are the same gameplay-wise in pretty much all cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoau2002 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Why don't you watch some youtube gameplay videos. Pretty sure every game is on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) The graphics ARE improved on CV vs. 2600/5200 Activision games, though not by much. Mainly backgrounds. One bad thing about the Act. games is that the labels are often ripped off above the screws. Now, which system are they best to play on? Well the stock CV controllers really suffer on the Activision games, big time. If you have the sticks modded like me, they are great, or use a 2600 stick if you can. I think these are the only AV published games though? Beamrider Decathlon H.E.R.O. Keystone Kapers Pitfall II: Lost Caverns Pitfall! River Raid Zenji Edited April 26, 2013 by Greg2600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Beamrider Decathlon H.E.R.O. Keystone Kapers Pitfall II: Lost Caverns Pitfall! River Raid Zenji The only drawback that the Colecovision only has 16 colors, sprites are limited to 1 color each. Where the atari 2600 has 128 colors, and sprites can have one color per scanline. I only played Beamrider, Keystone Kaper, and H.E.R.O.. The games I played are nearly identical to the Atari 2600 version and still a lot of fun to play. I love H.E.R.O. and brought that from Atari2600 site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Great point on the colors, yes it definitely stands out how games like River Raid look like Crayola painted them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Definitely the graphics look less "blocky" in Colecovision and all preserve the original gameplay, sound stays almost the same though slightly improved. All the games have improved graphics in some way. At this moment I remember I saw improvement in H.E.R.O. Keystone Kapers and Decathlon backgrounds and in River Raid sprites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynxVGL Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Thanks for the input guys. I have checked out the YouTube stuff (Especially the 65GamerGuys channel) but the input on the controls and the issue with the Sprites is something that some YouTube videos don't address. Plus I think it's more valuable sometimes to get input from folks who have actually played the titles. I was thinking about HERO but I rarely see it cheap/loose. River Raid and possibly Pitfall 2 are the other ones. I WISH Activision would have ported Star Master to the CV and improved it a little to make it a true competitor to Star Raiders on the 5200 and 8-bit line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I have always prefered Activision Games on Atari 2600 than colecovision. Back in time , in 80's , when i owned my first coleco with the Atari expension Module , i bougth Atari 2600 version of activition games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'd get the 2600 versions myself. Of the three I have, Decathlon is a tad better on CV, but Keystone Kapers is worse. River Raid isn't really better or worse, just different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'd get the 2600 versions myself. Of the three I have, Decathlon is a tad better on CV, but Keystone Kapers is worse. River Raid isn't really better or worse, just different. I find this to be true myself. Honestly I think the game play best on the platform they were programmed for originally (which is usually the 2600), otherwise they just feel 'off' on other systems. There are exceptions to this rule however (Pitfall II on the 8-bits comes to mind). If you want the best gameplay *with* the additional eye candy I'd go for the Atari 8-bit ports, they seem to be the most solid. That 'Don't improve things on other systems' idea seems to only have lasted for the first three or so games they ported. After that they went nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoau2002 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Pitfall looks identical except for some minor cosmetic changes, is this the same for Pitfall 2 ? I think that the cv version of pitfall is a vast improvement over the 2600 version. But thats just my two cents. I have never played pitfall 2 on the 2600 so I can't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schuwalker Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I concur w/ the majority on here 'bout the Activision ports. The first Activision title I bought was Keystone Kapers. I should preface this by saying "Kapers" is my favorite 2600 game to this day. When I got it home, I would say mildly disappointed would sum it up best. Not to say it was horrible, but to me when it comes on the Colecovision, I expect it to be *greatly* improved over the original..... I still prefer the 2600 version. My next game was River Raid. Now on this one I do prefer the CV port. I was a pretty good RR player; I love the added difficulty the CV version provides. Followed suit was Pitfall II. Well this was The Keystone Kapers to me. Nothing real of an worthwhile upgrade to me. Now, my neighbors had Decathlon for the CV. I would say this is the best port of Decathlon on any system - love that game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schuwalker Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I think that the cv version of pitfall is a vast improvement over the 2600 version. But thats just my two cents. I have never played pitfall 2 on the 2600 so I can't say. Interesting to say it was vastly improved... something 'bout the controls and movement on the CV version that bothers me compared to the 2600 counterpart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoau2002 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Interesting to say it was vastly improved... something 'bout the controls and movement on the CV version that bothers me compared to the 2600 counterpart. In terms of graphics and sound. Movement and controls depends on the controller being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Actually I find the updated versions of Keystone Kapers to be harder to play since the 'enemies' easily get lost in the fancy background graphics (those damn radio's especially). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartsfam Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I would love a Megamania port to the CV. That's my all time favorite Activision 2600 title. Just my opinion..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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