+xucaen Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I've been research jaguar games and a lot of lists out there tend to mix cartridge games with CD games and include homebrew games. But I wanted a list of cartridge games that excluded CD and homebrew games, so I made one. I came up with only 47 49 cartridges. Alien vs. Predator Atari .Atari Karts Atari .Attack of the Mutant Penguins Atari .Breakout 2000 Telegames .Brutal Sports Football Telegames Bubsy: Fractured Furry Tails Atari Cannon Fodder Virgin Checkered Flag Atari Club Drive Atari Cybermorph Atari .Defender 2000 Atari .DOOM Atari .Double Dragon V Williams Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story Atari Evolution: Dino Dudes Atari .Fever Pitch Soccer Atari .Fight for Life Atari .Flashback US Gold Flip Out Atari Hover Strike Atari .I-War Atari .International Sensible Soccer Telegames Iron Soldier Atari .Iron Soldier 2 (cartridge & CD) Telegames Kasumi Ninja Atari .Missile Command 3D Atari .NBA Jam: Tournament Edition Atari Pinball Fantasies 21st Century Entertainment .Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure Atari .Power Drive Rally Time-Warner Interactive Raiden Atari Rayman Ubi Soft Ruiner Pinball Atari Super Burnout Atari .Supercross 3D Atari .Syndicate Ocean Tempest 2000 Atari Theme Park Ocean .Towers II Telegames Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy Atari .Troy Aikman NFL Football Williams Ultra Vortek Atari Val d'Isere Skiing & Snowboarding Atari White Men Can't Jump Atari Wolfenstein 3D Atari .Worms Telegames .Zero 5 Telegames Zool 2 Atari .Zoop! Atari Edit: added Iron Soldier II and Worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGUAR Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) 44. Breakout, towers ii and zero 5 were released well after Atari died. Last official jag cart game released was fight for life in January 1996. last official cd game was braindead 13 in January 1996. Atari was dead by February 1996. They did dump a ton of new games in December 1995. December 9, 1996 - Breakout 2000 released.December 9, 1996 - Towers II released telegames released the 2 above on their own, nothing to do with Atari. not "official" and then zero 5 was released sometime in 1997. 44 official Atari jag cart games and 11 cd games. check out how many december releases there were: December 6, 1995 - Dragon's Lair released.December 6, 1995 - Missle Command 3D released with an MSRP of $60December 14, 1995 - Myst released.December 15, 1995 - Fever Pitch Soccer released.December 15, 1995 - I-War released.December 16, 1995 - The Atari Jaguar 64-bit Power Kit system package was reduced in price from $150 to $100.December 20, 1995 - Supercross 3D released.December, 1995 - Battlemorph released.December, 1995 - Primal Rage released.December, 1995 - Baldies released.December 22, 1995 - Atari Karts released with an MSRP of $60December 27, 1995 - NBA Jam: Tournament Edition released with an MSRP of $70.December, 1995 - Space Ace released.December, 1995 - Defender 2000 released.December 29, 1995 - Attack of the Mutant Penguins released with an MSRP of $60.January 5, 1996 - Zoop released.January, 1996 - Brain Dead 13 released.1996 - Fight for Life released. Edited February 1, 2015 by JAGUAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+xucaen Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) That's good to know. I had read somewhere (can't find the link now) that Telegames had released the unfinished games that were supposed to be "official" but didn't make it in time before Atari went out of business. I noticed that Brutal Sports Football and International Sensible Soccer were also released by Telegames. Were they also released after Atari went bankrupt? Edited February 1, 2015 by xucaen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Worms and Iron Soldier 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Looks like Iron Soldier 2, Breakout 2000, Zero 5 were official. Edited February 1, 2015 by high voltage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+xucaen Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Oh that's right! Iron Soldier II was released on both cartridge and CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I think that's it, the Songbird releases aren't technically homebrew, just games that never had an official commercial release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) that's a pretty interesting article, I wonder what they mean when they say "Atari had to agree to continue to support the jaguar for another year." Was there a quota of games they had to reach, or just fulfill warranty obligations .etc? IMO telegames really did more harm than good to the Jaguar during the time when the system was commercially viable. Had Atari not given them responsibility for Tiny Toons we might actually be playing that game today... reading the case history it sounds like they made the Atari project managers life a living hell. Edited February 1, 2015 by Willard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGUAR Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Looks like Iron Soldier 2, Breakout 2000, Zero 5 were official. No, they weren't. The Atari they are talking about in that article is the new Atari that formed after the jts merger. Atari Jaguar Atari fired everyone by early 1996 and they were DEAD in early 1996. completely dead, gone. sold out. the telegames releases from late 1996 onward were NOT official Atari Jaguar games marketed or sold AT ALL by the original Atari ran by the Tramiels................. They were marketed and sold by telegames only (based in texas and the uk, the real Atari obviously in California..). Obviously the earlier telegames releases like brutal sports were official, that was released early 1994 when the real Atari was still very much alive. if you want to count the telegames releases that WOULD have been official if Atari had not died, that's another story. Then you might as well included ALL the games that were released after Atari died that would have been official, like all the songbird and b&c games, fininshed and not finished... And really we shouldn't see the late 96 telegames games as official Atari releases especially since the darn guys who made the games didn't get paid, LOL. Edited February 2, 2015 by JAGUAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 No, they weren't. The Atari they are talking about in that article is the new Atari that formed after the jts merger. Atari Jaguar Atari fired everyone by early 1996 and they were DEAD in early 1996. completely dead, gone. sold out. the telegames releases from late 1996 onward were NOT official Atari Jaguar games marketed or sold AT ALL by the original Atari ran by the Tramiels................. They were marketed and sold by telegames only. Obviously the earlier telegames releases like brutal sports were official, that was released early 1994 when the real Atari was still very much alive. Nonsense logic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarBrett Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Trever Mcfur boxed and Missile Command 3d are the only two boxed game cartridges I'm missing, will be picking up MC3D this month however =) That just leaves lonely trever lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 if you want to count the telegames releases that WOULD have been official if Atari had not died, that's another story. Then you might as well included ALL the games that were released after Atari died that would have been official, like all the songbird and b&c games, fininshed and not finished... Comparing games that were available in retail stores with unfinished games made with EPROMs from B&C. Your logic is flawless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serblander Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Anyone know the release date of the original Protector (not S.E.)? Was that an official release as well or not? Can't remember if it was or not as the cobwebs are gathering in my memory banks. On that note, i thought all the Telegames games were official release... (their Jag games anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredifredo Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I bought Towers II in a store ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I bought Towers II in a store ... In the US, games like Zero 5 and Towers II were sold for a time in the Electronics Boutique chain (I don't think it changed over to Gamestop at that point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusherbad64 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I'm only missing Worms and Primal Fear. Anyone with those copies want to part it away? Let me know lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I'm only missing Worms and Primal Fear. Anyone with those copies want to part it away? Let me know lol. If you're looking for Primal Fear, you can probably order a DVD off Amazon for cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovalbugmann Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 THere is no Primal Fear game available for the Jaguar, for the masses. It's another cancelled game, prolly. Dragon would know. Not sure who might have a beta tho, if it exists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGUAR Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) a game for sale in a retail store doesn't mean anything. there is no difference between a game sold in a store or one sold from a bedroom... Atari had nothing to do those those telegames games available in stores for sale. they were dead. not paying anyone since early '96. they had nothing to do with those games in the brick and mortar store, therefore, not technically official Atari releases. everyone knows the last official Atari releases was obviously fight for life and the lesser known last official cd release was braindead 13. so there. if it were up to Atari towers ii never would have been released but Atari were forced to allow for another year their "support" for jaguar games which meant nothing really (just meant Atari couldn't pull anything legally in court) don't know how anyone could claim late 96 jaguar games were official in anyway when Atari was dead a full 6+ months earlier. Make sense? ya. (and even the fight for life guys barely got paid) Edited February 3, 2015 by JAGUAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Gorf might disagree with you on this point. Pretty sure Time Warner would as well. there is no difference between a game sold in a store or one sold from a bedroom... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 a game for sale in a retail store doesn't mean anything. there is no difference between a game sold in a store or one sold from a bedroom... Atari had nothing to do those those telegames games available in stores for sale. they were dead. not paying anyone since early '96. they had nothing to do with those games in the brick and mortar store, therefore, not technically official Atari releases. everyone knows the last official Atari releases was obviously fight for life and the lesser known last official cd release was braindead 13. so there. if it were up to Atari towers ii never would have been released but Atari were forced to allow for another year their "support" for jaguar games which meant nothing really (just meant Atari couldn't pull anything legally in court) don't know how anyone could claim late 96 jaguar games were official in anyway when Atari was dead a full 6+ months earlier. Make sense? ya. (and even the fight for life guys barely got paid) Still wrong, no matter how many times you say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGUAR Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Funny how all of a sudden late 1996 releases are considered official when since 1996- up until a few days ago , everyone and their mom knew that Fight For Life was the last official Atari cartridge release (January 1996 for FFL versus Towers II December 1996).... Its funny. Ive done research out the ying yang on this type of stuff, you know, im the one who did the timeline? Ya. untold amount of hours researching and studying jaguar releases. I guarantee in December 1996 when towers ii and then other telegames releases first hit stores, the actual Atari building in Sunnyvale California was COMPLETELY empty and deserted. So, ya. not official then. No Atari backing at all in any way, hence when the programmers were shocked when they heard Telegames was selling this games, rather illegally probably in the opnions of the guys who made these games!!! They were never paid. Edited February 4, 2015 by JAGUAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeoNinja Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 hence when the programmers were shocked when they heard Telegames was selling this games, rather illegally probably in the opnions of the guys who made these games!!! They were never paid. And, as any 'good' businessman will tell you: "It was purely business. Nothing personal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 OP: How many official Jaguar cartridges were there? Me: NOT ENOUGH!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovalbugmann Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Yes, not enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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