Panther Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'm really liking this Incognito... This will certainly be my new primary 8-bit Atari. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eebuckeye Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Can you still buy one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I already have one, but there are many who want one. I am hoping that we can persuade Candle (the creator) to allow Lotharek (professional quality producer of many great things such as VBXE, U1M, Rapidus, etc.) to take over the manufacturing of Incognito. We also need to persuade Lotharek that there are enough people interested in it to make a production run. That's only my opinion, but feel free to ask any Incognito owner and I'm sure they will agree that this upgrade is a total game-changer. It adds more power to an 800 than any upgrade ever made. It's better than U1M+SIDE2 because you still have 2 (TWO!) cart slots available, and a PBI. I can't say enough good things about it. I have never had a problem (that wasn't MY fault) with it. It's completely compatible with everything. I even have an 816 CPU and it performs flawlessly. Highly recommended (in case you haven't figured that out already). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Some people have complained that it's "too invasive" of a mod to an 800. I don't quite understand what they're talking about since you don't have to make any permanent changes and all that's really needed is to simply replace your RAM boards and personality (OS) board with the Incognito and connect six wires. It's recommended, but not required to cut away a small piece of plastic inside where you won't even see it in order to make more room for the cables, and it's completely optional to install a button and LED somewhere. I decided to add them where they'd be discrete. The LED can be seen mainly as just a reflection on the desk where I put it, but I figure I can always move it somewhere more visible later. Access to the PBI bus is another story. Anyone care to share their methods of running a cable out of the 800? Anyway, I must say again, I really like this mod! My 130XE and 800XL are going to collect dust now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) this mod is imho on of the few mods that actually improves an 800 and it follows the proper personality card approach... it isn't all that invasive and maintain damn near perfect compatibility.... looking at what Atari and the third party updates upgrades etc. of the past are!... this stays perfectly in the tradition of what Atari had in mind before the seal it all up under a label edict started.... Thumbs up to all incognito 800's out there! You are the spirit of Atari! Edited March 3, 2016 by _The Doctor__ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 My only complaint is the lack of multiple basic rom slots, other than that, it's really awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 . . . Access to the PBI bus is another story. Anyone care to share their methods of running a cable out of the 800? . . . I will soon (not today, but soon) post pictures of how to modify the metal plate under the top cover to allow the PBI cable to pass through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 I might just use the PBI directly out of the top, hooking it up only when needed. I already bypassed the switch of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 Can you still buy one? There's one on eBay right now, still cheap, but I guess it has a little while to go so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumzyman Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 There's one on eBay right now, still cheap, but I guess it has a little while to go so who knows. Wow, not so cheap anymore, at the time of this post its $225 !!!!!!! If were both talking about item 331795636251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugs Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 $255 now, maybe this will entice them to make another batch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokeless Joe Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 $295 now. How much did these originally sell for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 $295 now. How much did these originally sell for? $75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Wow, I wish I would have bought two when I did. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Wow, I wish I would have bought two when I did. :-) I wish I'd have bought one ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 With the current one selling for $295 now, I wonder how much a prototype board would go for, $500+ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 With the current one selling for $295 now, I wonder how much a prototype board would go for, $500+ ? Since I believe this is more about people wanting the functionality with what the Incognito can do, I kinda doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I wish people would buy these and use them... the shill bidding and make a killing mentality ruins it for all those with modest means.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I bought the one before this one and I'm definitely using it. Just because it gets expensive doesn't necessarily mean shill buyers and profiteering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I bought the one before this one and I'm definitely using it. Just because it gets expensive doesn't necessarily mean shill buyers and profiteering. That's right. The bid most likely went high because it's an extremely useful and well designed piece of hardware that some people are desperate to get ahold of at this point. They're no longer being manufactured and there's little sign that they will be in the near future. This was no auction for those of modest means. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Hopefully more will be made, either by Candle or Lotharek. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) I will soon (not today, but soon) post pictures of how to modify the metal plate under the top cover to allow the PBI cable to pass through. Attached is a pic of the metal plate under the 800's top cover. The black stuff on it is the remains of the tape that Atari used to stick a thin steel plate on to the aluminum plate. I removed the steel plate and cut the aluminum as shown. Make sure to stay several mm away from the tab that holds the rear of the plate in place. After you're done, use a solvent to remove the black stuff. Use a file to smooth the edges to avoid cutting the PBI cable. Be very careful removing the screws that hold the plate on. They're in 30 something year old plastic, and it may crack. Edit: Sorry about the poor picture quality. The cut area is 10mm x 70mm. Edited March 16, 2016 by Kyle22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_g Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Here's my Incognito up for sale: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/250394-incognito/ This thread jogged my memory about it. Shame to see it go but I just don't have the time these days and people still seem very keen to get their hands on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Attached is a pic of the metal plate under the 800's top cover. The black stuff on it is the remains of the tape that Atari used to stick a thin steel plate on to the aluminum plate. I removed the steel plate and cut the aluminum as shown. Make sure to stay several mm away from the tab that holds the rear of the plate in place. The metal plate was no longer used at some point on newer 800s, so a lot of people won't have them. I'm not certain, but they might only exist on the units that came with the memory and personality boards encased in a shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The metal plate was no longer used at some point on newer 800s, so a lot of people won't have them. I'm not certain, but they might only exist on the units that came with the memory and personality boards encased in a shell. Both my 800's have them but neither of them have encased RAM cards, including one I bought complete in box with the big "48K" sticker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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