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In terms of sales, yes it wasn't as popular but as time moved it became more popular then when it was released. Kind of like the Jaguar the Retro HQ is developing and the Turbo-grafx. I was talking in respect to just Atari hardware because mainly we are talking about 5 pieces of hardware (2600, 5200, 7800, Jag, and Lynx) (also don't forget about the computer's) I'm just saying that in terms of the Atari community the 7800 was the easiest of the other systems to grow a bigger fan base, like easier to set up and play; the 5200 had bad controllers and new ones were expensive and can be confusing to hook up if you don't know what you are doing. And there are a lot more systems for people to buy, instead of the jag. There is just in terms of numbers of fans within the Atari community. Yes the 7800 didn't sell well, but in terms of affordability, playability and other things, the 2600 sold far more and has a bigger fan base than the 7800, it is still a distant second.

Yeah, the 2600 was massive, put Atari more on the map than they were before. More people I knew had Atari 8-bit computers than either the 5200 or 7800. And I kind of hate you for bringing this up, because I've never owned either of those two, and now I want both :P I had the original Atari 2600 at one point, and we even had one of the 'clones' called a Gemini, if I recall. Those are both long gone, but I still have my original 8-bit computer (800XL) and I've found others since then (130XE, 600XL, XEGS, 800.) But never had the 5200 or 7800... Still have my Jaguar, and somewhere I may still have my partially broken Lynx, but I don't think so, will be ordering one when I'm closer to getting the Multi-Card :)

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Yeah, the 2600 was massive, put Atari more on the map than they were before. More people I knew had Atari 8-bit computers than either the 5200 or 7800. And I kind of hate you for bringing this up, because I've never owned either of those two, and now I want both :P I had the original Atari 2600 at one point, and we even had one of the 'clones' called a Gemini, if I recall. Those are both long gone, but I still have my original 8-bit computer (800XL) and I've found others since then (130XE, 600XL, XEGS, 800.) But never had the 5200 or 7800... Still have my Jaguar, and somewhere I may still have my partially broken Lynx, but I don't think so, will be ordering one when I'm closer to getting the Multi-Card :)

Same here with Atari computers. I have heard of the 800 and the XEGS; but I actually never heard of the rest that you listed. I might try an Atari computer when I only own a commodore 64. I haven't gotten into computers that much so thank you for giving me a reason to do so. :) :)

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BTW a a7800 flashcart exists now.

 

https://youtu.be/LlTsKYlB53g

That device requires a programming interface to change the ROMs. We are waiting for a device where people can just drag and drop ROMs from a PC to an SD card, then plug into the console or handheld, selext the filename from a menu, and play. Anything that limits the available game "slots" and requires old drivers or programming software to use is a PITA. Anyone with a PC (Windows, Mac, or Linux, doesn't matter) and minimal skill level can extract an archive and drag files to an SD card.
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Use No_Intro set for best results. Goodsets are full of bad ROMs...

There are 88 games in the No Intro set and 300 in the goodset. Just rely on the 88?

 

If no one else has done it already, I'll create a romset for this device and submit it to the smokemonster packs, including the menu and preview files. All credit is given to the original creators of course, but having everything in one place is infinitely easier for everyone.

 

The only question is how you'd like them named, due to the charater limitation. Example: Should I rename "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (USA, Europe)" to "B&TedAdv", or keep the name in the preview files, which would be "billted"?

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There are 88 games in the No Intro set and 300 in the goodset. Just rely on the 88?

 

A lot of time a full rom set includes 3 different bad dump for each of the common games, a few overdumps here and there, and a few variations that has no effect on gameplay like different copyright date. If you removed all the [bx] and [ox] you would have maybe a little over 100 left.

 

There weren't many games for 7800 in the first place. Atari relied on 2600 compatibility to support the 7800, then the console got shelfed for 2 years only to compete with NES and Sega Master System which hurts Atari a lot. Had the 7800 come out sooner rather than going computer only, it may have resulted differently. It could have either slowed down the infamous crash or it would have flopped badly due to the crash and completely killed it. It seems like 7800 was doomed when it was planned.

 

Sucks as there were some good games. A few games like Commando actually looks better on 7800 than on NES.

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A lot of time a full rom set includes 3 different bad dump for each of the common games, a few overdumps here and there, and a few variations that has no effect on gameplay like different copyright date. If you removed all the [bx] and [ox] you would have maybe a little over 100 left.

 

There weren't many games for 7800 in the first place. Atari relied on 2600 compatibility to support the 7800, then the console got shelfed for 2 years only to compete with NES and Sega Master System which hurts Atari a lot. Had the 7800 come out sooner rather than going computer only, it may have resulted differently. It could have either slowed down the infamous crash or it would have flopped badly due to the crash and completely killed it. It seems like 7800 was doomed when it was planned.

 

Sucks as there were some good games. A few games like Commando actually looks better on 7800 than on NES.

I apologize about perpetuating the off-topicness... but that's pretty much what I thought. Too much of the 'it'll play 2600 games!' killed the 7800. Sony did the same thing with PS1-PS3, but that actually bought customer loyalty and since they had the money and clout to drive 3rd party developers, they were successful in getting them to support the newer hardware. Atari's problem has ALWAYS been 3rd party support. Reading through one of the threads on atari-forum.com about games never ported to the ST, and some of the old developers stating that Atari was difficult to work with is pretty telling on why one of the greatest innovators of their time simply fizzled out in the end. You can have the most amazing computer in the world, but if no one writes software for it, it'll perish. I just hope that doesn't happen to all of the VR stuff that's going on now. I've not had time to play mine lately, but I'm also waiting for some of the bigger games to come out (well and I need to move into a bigger house so I have a full sized play area!)

 

Anyhow, back more on topic. I need to check the list to see where I'm at! And then find a lynx again! I'm thinking one of those new in box ones look pretty good!

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VR is a fad and a rich kids' plaything similar to Neo Geo. Games will come but the tech will be expensive as hell and only develop a niche following.

 

And Nintendo is struggling just as much getting 3rd party games than Atari did bitd but for totally different reasons. Nintendo was courting all the third party devs bitd leaving Atari and Sega high and dry.

 

Nowadays Nintendo has lost 3rd party support not because of bullying by MS/Sony but because devs are too lazy to port games to a different architecture and quite frankly don't give a ****.

 

The difference between modern Nintendo and bitd Atari however, is Nintendo games are actually fun and have a level of polish that rivals even their Sony/MS AAA counterparts. Atari was still rushing games out during the Tramiel era and the gameplay of many 7800/Lynx/Jag games suffered as a result. That and Atari had no branding or mascot characters. Nintendo had Mario. Sega had Sonic. Even Hudson/NEC had Bonk. Where were the Atari mascots? IMO some of the best 7800 games were older last gen arcade ports, many of which had superior NES ports available for sale at the time. In fact the primary reason I got a 7800 was for the excellent homebrews coming out for it.

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