CPUWIZ Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 How many more devices do you really need to run Netflix? Of the top of my head, these are the devices we have around that play Netflix... iPhone 5s iPhone 6+ iPad Mini 4th Gen. iPad 4 iPad Air 2 2 x AppleTV 5 x Laptops 4 x Desktop PC's Apple Mac Mini 2 x PS3 PS4 XB1 LG 4K Smart TV Kindle Fire Firephone I wouldn't be surprised if our next coffee maker or fridge can play Netflix. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 It is not some paltry sum that nintendo gets in royalties, it is feeding consumer demand. Sure Nintendo can say they dont feel like doing it and whatever excuse they want, and they will lose sale every time a consumer "dont feel like" buying it. Do you think there's a significant number of people like that? I sure don't. Remember, this thing costs $300, and if someone doesn't already have something else with a browser or movie streaming app on it, they should probably rethink their priorities. Just like there didn't really need to be a 3G PSVita that ran Gmail, Google Maps, and Skype. Or a PS3 that could boot into Linux, or load every format of flash memory for photos Or the global news app on Wii Or a Kinect 2 for Xbone Or paddles to be sold with every Atari VCS until the repack Or R.O.B. the robot I'm sure others can go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillLoguidice Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I really don't think any of the other reasons are valid. I think we all agree that it's not a requirement, but a simple value-add that even dirt cheap devices offer. Again, it's not like they don't have those types apps on even the modest 3DS. And I think we also all agree that it will get it eventually. As such, not having a few rudimentary apps at launch seems a bit silly, then. It's not like they haven't had plenty of time to make sure there was key software at launch, although the relative weakness of the launch window line-up does give some pause I guess. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegadot Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if our next coffee maker or fridge can play Netflix. You jest but... https://www.cnet.com/news/samsungs-super-fridge-packs-everything-but-the-kitchen-sink/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 You jest but... https://www.cnet.com/news/samsungs-super-fridge-packs-everything-but-the-kitchen-sink/ Oh, I know, a couple of my friends just punked Best Buy, some idiot left a sticker with the password on the inside of the door. They promptly unlocked the fridge demo mode, launched a browser and went to a porn site and walked away. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiqMat Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Oh, I know, a couple of my friends just punked Best Buy, some idiot left a sticker with the password on the inside of the door. They promptly unlocked the fridge demo mode, launched a browser and went to a porn site and walked away. Yes... back in my more questionable decision making days (early 90s), my friend and I always had fun with the office store demo computers left at a DOS command prompt. Tsk Tsk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojay1997 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 How many more devices do you really need to run Netflix? Of the top of my head, these are the devices we have around that play Netflix... iPhone 5s iPhone 6+ iPad Mini 4th Gen. iPad 4 iPad Air 2 2 x AppleTV 5 x Laptops 4 x Desktop PC's Apple Mac Mini 2 x PS3 PS4 XB1 LG 4K Smart TV Kindle Fire Firephone I wouldn't be surprised if our next coffee maker or fridge can play Netflix. Yes, I'm sure many of us have multiple devices that can stream Netflix. That doesn't mean we wouldn't appreciate having one more, especially one that can stream in both a handheld and docked mode and is designed for kids. Frankly, I don't always love the fact that my kids use relatively expensive iPads and/or smartphones to watch movies given how much those devices cost to replace or repair if they are damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yes, I'm sure many of us have multiple devices that can stream Netflix. That doesn't mean we wouldn't appreciate having one more, especially one that can stream in both a handheld and docked mode and is designed for kids. Frankly, I don't always love the fact that my kids use relatively expensive iPads and/or smartphones to watch movies given how much those devices cost to replace or repair if they are damaged. Relative to what? Again, Switch is $300 and extra controllers are $70-$80. Android tablets are cheap, Kindle tablets are almost disposable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yes, I'm sure many of us have multiple devices that can stream Netflix. That doesn't mean we wouldn't appreciate having one more, especially one that can stream in both a handheld and docked mode and is designed for kids. Frankly, I don't always love the fact that my kids use relatively expensive iPads and/or smartphones to watch movies given how much those devices cost to replace or repair if they are damaged. Hmm, aren't older generation iPad's cheaper than $300? I hear you on the kids thing though, we don't have those things and our cats prefer watching on the big screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Oh, I know, a couple of my friends just punked Best Buy, some idiot left a sticker with the password on the inside of the door. They promptly unlocked the fridge demo mode, launched a browser and went to a porn site and walked away. It has happened at a Home Depot too. http://gizmodo.com/porn-surfing-smart-fridge-offers-terrifying-glimpse-of-1787341830 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I guess I may not have been clear... Personally I don't care if the Switch can browse the web, stream HBO, etc. Plenty of other things do that. Never used a Wii or Wii U for that. I occasionally do use the web browser on the Xbox One to access my fubotv account to watch BeIn. I doubt there are many that are doing that, but I digress. I guess I should have asked this another way... will it be a turn off for potential customers not to have access to the web, streaming, whatever on the Switch? Sure, the iPhones, iPads, Androids whatever can do those things, but they play games too. Like it or not, those devices are they way a lot of people play games. What would motivate them to buy something else? Can the Switch be successful just keeping it's core audience or is it important to attract those other customers and be more diverse? I don't know the answer to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Do you think there's a significant number of people like that? I sure don't. Remember, this thing costs $300, and if someone doesn't already have something else with a browser or movie streaming app on it, they should probably rethink their priorities. Just like there didn't really need to be a 3G PSVita that ran Gmail, Google Maps, and Skype. Or a PS3 that could boot into Linux, or load every format of flash memory for photos Or the global news app on Wii Or a Kinect 2 for Xbone Or paddles to be sold with every Atari VCS until the repack Or R.O.B. the robot I'm sure others can go on Lack of proper browser is a much bigger deal than lack of Netflix, especially since many seemingly open networks need a login screen or button they force you to click before you can access the internet. For example, you use hotel wifi as a guest, they make you enter a passcode or something that's unique for each party staying there. Same with University login. For instance, the initial handshake on 3DS fails when I log on a public network, but it saves the settings anyway. Then I open the browser, it redirects to a login page, and I'm good from there. Once you've signed in, your login token may last anywhere from a few minutes to days or weeks, but it's impossible to access the wider internet without some sort of rudimentary browser. So gaming on the go with Switch becomes a lot less useful when you factor that in. McDonalds or Starbucks are as good as useless. I'd also just like to add my two cents, there is value in a portable device with a web browser or streaming apps that specifically lacks 3g/4g/lte access. Mobile data plans are ridiculously expensive, and many "mobile" devices will try to revert to mobile networks even in the presence of suitable wifi. Even a single hickup on the wifi at home or abroad and it goes to mobile data rates. In a congested environment if it finds the mobile network is cleaner, it will use that without prompting you first. So a mobile device you can use that won't eat into your data plan is a good device to have handy. Netflix or Youtube access at a coffee shop or hotel wifi is free last I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Yes... back in my more questionable decision making days (early 90s), my friend and I always had fun with the office store demo computers left at a DOS command prompt. Tsk Tsk Too bad the evil commands like Format and Fdisk never worked inside of Windows. Once during my delinquent teenage years, I hit the reset button on a Win95 employee terminal at a ToysRUs store, then hit the reset button again before Windows could load properly. Then it prompted me to resume normally, start in safe mode, or command prompt. I selected command prompt, typed "Format C:" , hit "y" at the prompt, then got the f*** out of there before they knew what happened. Last thing I saw was "FORMATTING 0%" I'd guess it probably took me barely 45 seconds from start to finish to FUBAR that hard drive. I have no idea if security cameras caught me in the act or not, as I was out of the store lickity-split before anyone caught wind of it. I'd have been in helluva lot of trouble if I'd been caught though. My friend who was with me at the time couldn't believe his eyes how fast I trashed that PC. Then after we got through high-fiving each other, we were off to the mall smashing empty beer bottles in the parking lot or whatever we used to do back then to entertain our delinquent selves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just like this ancient joke Bill Gates was demonstrating his latest speech-recognition software. He was just about ready to start the demonstration and asked everyone in the room to quiet down. Just then someone in the back of the room yelled, "Format C: Return." Someone else chimed in: "Yes, Return!" Unfortunately, the software worked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I've never messed with a store computer, but I took a 256mb stick of ram out of a computer at CES back in 1997. I think it was an ibm server. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiqMat Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Too bad the evil commands like Format and Fdisk never worked inside of Windows. Once during my delinquent teenage years, I hit the reset button on a Win95 employee terminal at a ToysRUs store, then hit the reset button again before Windows could load properly. Then it prompted me to resume normally, start in safe mode, or command prompt. I selected command prompt, typed "Format C:" , hit "y" at the prompt, then got the f*** out of there before they knew what happened. Last thing I saw was "FORMATTING 0%" I'd guess it probably took me barely 45 seconds from start to finish to FUBAR that hard drive. I have no idea if security cameras caught me in the act or not, as I was out of the store lickity-split before anyone caught wind of it. I'd have been in helluva lot of trouble if I'd been caught though. My friend who was with me at the time couldn't believe his eyes how fast I trashed that PC. Then after we got through high-fiving each other, we were off to the mall smashing empty beer bottles in the parking lot or whatever we used to do back then to entertain our delinquent selves. LOL!!! You and my old friend from the 90s would have been best friends. Although, you sound like you were a tad more evil in your ways. Office Depot had a few formatted demo computer HDs back in those days because of him. That was before they had password protection and imaged their HDs. What we did to amuse ourselves. Edited February 10, 2017 by LiqMat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Daniels Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Too bad the evil commands like Format and Fdisk never worked inside of Windows. Once during my delinquent teenage years, I hit the reset button on a Win95 employee terminal at a ToysRUs store, then hit the reset button again before Windows could load properly. Then it prompted me to resume normally, start in safe mode, or command prompt. I selected command prompt, typed "Format C:" , hit "y" at the prompt, then got the f*** out of there before they knew what happened. Last thing I saw was "FORMATTING 0%" I'd guess it probably took me barely 45 seconds from start to finish to FUBAR that hard drive. I have no idea if security cameras caught me in the act or not, as I was out of the store lickity-split before anyone caught wind of it. I'd have been in helluva lot of trouble if I'd been caught though. My friend who was with me at the time couldn't believe his eyes how fast I trashed that PC. Then after we got through high-fiving each other, we were off to the mall smashing empty beer bottles in the parking lot or whatever we used to do back then to entertain our delinquent selves. god only knows what you 2 would have been like working in a gamestop when boredom set in Edited February 10, 2017 by D.Daniels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 So much bitching about an ultimately half assed web browser like any console or handheld has had to date...senseless time wasting fight going on here. Also we're skipping the point here the guy said it wouldn't have one at launch, he did not say it would never have one. Did the Wii originally launch with a browser or the WiiU which was more or less broken out of the gate? I have some memory of them adding features later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Daniels Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) So much bitching about an ultimately half assed web browser like any console or handheld has had to date...senseless time wasting fight going on here. Also we're skipping the point here the guy said it wouldn't have one at launch, he did not say it would never have one. Did the Wii originally launch with a browser or the WiiU which was more or less broken out of the gate? I have some memory of them adding features later. lol I get where your coming from, but isn't a good web browser partly for, for people to bitch over nothing and time waste , your common sense is beautiful but this is the internet where all IQ and forms of reason are forbidden in favour of slavery to video game brands, maybe we need to update the thread to the reality that scumbag sellers will charge 3 times the price for a switch logo t shirt with a warm chilli sauce stain on it, while only 2% of the breathing population own a switch Edited February 10, 2017 by D.Daniels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 which one of you was beavis Probably me. Butthead is the dumber of the two, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Daniels Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Probably me. Butthead is the dumber of the two, right? lol, I changed it as I thought maybe you wouldn't get the reference as its a 90's show your story sounds like something they would do, but there both too dumb to do it your way, they would probably just pull the plug out or google a picture of a number 2 and set it as the background Edited February 10, 2017 by D.Daniels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 lol, I changed it as I thought maybe you wouldn't get the reference as its a 90's show your story sounds like something they would do, but there both too dumb to do it your way, they would probably just pull the plug out or google a picture of a number 2 and set it as the background First edit always sits in the inbox... They'd probably just pick it up and smash the monitor, leaving the hard drive undisturbed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The point of the Switch getting Netflix, a browser, etc. isn't for our benefit by having another device to use those things on but for Nintendo's benefit by not giving us any reasons to put down the Switch to pick up one of those other devices. This PSP commercial shows the concept perfectly: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoshiChiri Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The point of the Switch getting Netflix, a browser, etc. isn't for our benefit by having another device to use those things on but for Nintendo's benefit by not giving us any reasons to put down the Switch to pick up one of those other devices. I think perhaps Nintendo realizes they've already stuck us with the biggest reason to put their device down. "Aw man, my battery's dead! Guess I'll check email on my phone." Lack of proper browser is a much bigger deal than lack of Netflix, especially since many seemingly open networks need a login screen or button they force you to click before you can access the internet. For example, you use hotel wifi as a guest, they make you enter a passcode or something that's unique for each party staying there. Same with University login. For instance, the initial handshake on 3DS fails when I log on a public network, but it saves the settings anyway. Then I open the browser, it redirects to a login page, and I'm good from there. Once you've signed in, your login token may last anywhere from a few minutes to days or weeks, but it's impossible to access the wider internet without some sort of rudimentary browser. So gaming on the go with Switch becomes a lot less useful when you factor that in. McDonalds or Starbucks are as good as useless. This is an excellent point. The places I work offer free wifi for mobile coupons, but the login page requirement means at one store, the app is useless if you access it without hitting a browser first. Which, of course, is what everyone does. I usually tell them to turn wifi off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think perhaps Nintendo realizes they've already stuck us with the biggest reason to put their device down. "Aw man, my battery's dead! Guess I'll check email on my phone." Its estimated battery life is within the range of the 3DS's which has Netflix, Hulu Plus, YouTube, and a browser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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