Bunsen Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Contest is starting NOW http://gkanold.wixsite.com/homeputerium/basic-10liners-2017 7 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Maybe MadStudio is helpful: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258728-mad-studio/?p=3677505 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3684362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Copied from the 2016 thread: Yay! So at http://gkanold.wixsi...c-10liners-2017 I noticed this rule change: "In addition to the tenliner, the same program must be submitted in "long version", that means, with one command per line; Line jumps (GOTO, GOSUB) and other dependencies must be adjusted so that the program remains fully functional" which seems like a pain in the ass, but OK.. Are there any other tule changes? I suppose the best idea is to use the brilliant @dmsc tool https://github.com/dmsc/tbxl-parser, the "-l" command makes basically what is needed by the rules sans line numbers. The only caveat is this will not work good with Atari Basic (IFs will get converted to TBXL format). I think this should be discussed in the 2017's contest thread... Many people asked for a "long version" for educational purposes. The long version should be better to read and understand compared with the original version. Nobody will be disqualified if he doesn't provide the long version. It's just the icing of the cup. I recommend also the tbxl parser... I noticed that I ruined the homepage. I am trying to recover it (Games List 2016). 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3684368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Many people asked for a "long version" for educational purposes. The long version should be better to read and understand compared with the original version. Nobody will be disqualified if he doesn't provide the long version. It's just the icing of the cup. I recommend also the tbxl parser... OK, I've just sent my first entry for this year's contest: Surround. It's just a simplified clone of that VCS's jewell. The ZIP file includes all the required files except the long version, as it will be published in my website during the NOMAM's event, just like all my entries for the last year's contest. This is for the PUR-120 category. I was also working in a version of this game for the PUR-80 category, but I needed to remove many things to fit in less than 800 chars. I'm not sure if the result would be acceptable, or at least interesting for the contest, so I quit it. I noticed that I ruined the homepage. I am trying to recover it (Games List 2016). I hope you can recover the whole 2016 entries list. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3688780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savetz Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) DESCEND Category: PUR-120 Game: DESCEND.atr Code description: DESCEND: BASIC Tenliners Contest 2017 entry Edited February 7, 2017 by Savetz 9 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3690339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Kevin, I did small changes to your code and now it fits PUR-80 category. I just changed some IF-ENDIF into expressions to control variable's limits, renamed the variables to only 1 letter, changed the screen's scroll FOR-NEXT loop with a single MOVE and sort some statements to fit the 80 columns width. As there was a speed improvement, I had to add a PAUSE to preserve the original speed of the game, but I think there is enough room to make the game faster once you are in the narrowest "kavern". DESCEND2.LST 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3692705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 I've got already 19 10liners! But only 3 for Atari until now! http://gkanold.wixsite.com/homeputerium/games-list-2017 Last year Atari had the most winners. Come on, guys! Let's code them down again! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3697018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgr_inz_rafal Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Damn... Lack of good ideas and lack of time this year :/ Still a lot of time though... We'll see Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3697489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Rather impressive that you've got 19 entries from 16 different contributors covering 7 different systems (counting MSX1 and MSX2 separately) with two months to go. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3697494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Yep, can't keep these old machines down... Good luck to them all and I hope maybe a few more Atari ones Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3697520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpiep Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 SPLATARI for PUR-120 - two person game with joysticks on 800XL (developed with TBXL on Altirra)Game description here.Download ATR file. This game is based on Nintendo's Splatoon. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3703762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpiep Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 DESCEND Category: PUR-120 Game: DESCEND.atr Code description: DESCEND: BASIC Tenliners Contest 2017 entry Screenshot 2017-02-07 11.33.16.png Really nice use of ANTIC mode 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3703775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 SPLATARI for PUR-120 - two person game with joysticks on 800XL (developed with TBXL on Altirra) This game is based on Nintendo's Splatoon. Very nice! I'll try it with my sons on a real Atari this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3704119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I've published another game for the PUR-80 category: Don't go! It is like a pong, so it requires a paddle to be played. Download: DONTGO.ATR Game's detailed description: Don't go! 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3706321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpiep Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 My second entry to PUR-120: a BASIC adaptation of the 1976 arcade game Interceptor Download: Interceptor.atr Game description here. 11 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3710188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Oh! It's almost the same than one of my other projects: Space Ranger. Well, I guess I must quit it and go back to another one. Yours looks very good. Damn! Edited March 4, 2017 by vitoco 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3710195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 My second entry to PUR-120: a BASIC adaptation of the 1976 arcade game Interceptor Download: Interceptor.atr Game description here. Very good game and nice description page. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3710295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I've published another game for the PUR-80 category: Don't go! DONTGO.PNG It is like a pong, so it requires a paddle to be played. Download: DONTGO.ATR Game's detailed description: Don't go! When the 10-liner contest is over, you must add a soundtrack: Don`t go by Yazoo ! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3710441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Oh! It's almost the same than one of my other projects: Space Ranger. Well, I guess I must quit it and go back to another one. Yours looks very good. Damn! It would be nice to see Space Ranger as well....this is where ideas start.... and better things come later! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3711005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 It would be nice to see Space Ranger as well....this is where ideas start.... and better things come later! I thought about it... There are some similarities: - the first person point of view inside the pilot cabin of a plane/starship. - a clear sky/space. - a gun sight (that's the name?) that will be used to shoot the enemies. But there are some differences: Interceptor: - you have limited time. - it has 3 enemies flying arround at the same time. - you can shoot the one that goes behind the gun sight. - the score is the number of planes that you hit in the given time. Space Ranger: - you have limited amount of energy that it is used by the engines and the gun. - it has only one enemy in the playfield at a time. - there is a number of enemies that must be terminated before you run out of energy. - 3D simulation: there are 3 axis, it introduces the distance between the enemy and you. - you must chase the enemy and be close enough to successfully hit it when you fire the gun. - the score is the amount of energy left when you destroyed the enemies fleet. Currently, the program does not fit within the ~1200 bytes limit for the PUR-120 category, but I think I could compress it a bit more if I remove some of the cabin details and optimize some code. The problem is that I still want to add another feature: a radar, because the enemy might be behind of you!!! Also, you could do a 360 degree turn without finding it if it is over you So... I said I thought about this, and I decided to finish it for the contest, but I'm not sure how to continue: simplify it a bit to fit the PUR-120 category or include some other features like the radar and more enemies to be displayed at the same time (as in Interceptor) and move to EXTREME-256 category... Opinions? BTW, there is another game that seems to be like these ones: Combat Pilot for Amstrad CPC, and I don't know anything about it. It is entry #8 and it goes for the EXTREME-256 category. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3713175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirx Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 go for extreme - looks like the competition in this category is not as fierce. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3713442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpiep Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 ... other features like the radar .... I like the radar idea - I've been thinking about this for a Robot Tank like game, but don't know if I'll get to it this year. You should do Space Ranger so I can do a paddle game - I like your four paddle method in DONTGO. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3715462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichenneke Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Here's a game called "MAN-UP" for the ten liner PUR-120 category. Can be quite a little time waster. My best score is 164. -Eric MANUP.atr 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3715675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I like the radar idea - I've been thinking about this for a Robot Tank like game, but don't know if I'll get to it this year. You should do Space Ranger so I can do a paddle game - I like your four paddle method in DONTGO. I'm waiting for your paddle game!!! Here's a game called "MAN-UP" for the ten liner PUR-120 category. Can be quite a little time waster. My best score is 164. -Eric Nice minigame!!! But it seems a little hard in a PAL system. I cannot distinguish the height of the incoming bullet. My best score is 15!!! I like the running fx of the little man 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3715736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichenneke Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I'm waiting for your paddle game!!! Nice minigame!!! But it seems a little hard in a PAL system. I cannot distinguish the height of the incoming bullet. My best score is 15!!! I like the running fx of the little man ok, try this version. It is easier to differentiate between the head-level missiles and the mid-level missiles now. MANUP.atr Looking for a paddle game, eh? Have you tried Rain of Terror? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/#findComment-3716299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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