+therealbountybob Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Post #3 above has the HSC GP Standings I've just highlighted the best times for each track for now. I've done this manually (you can tell?!) If anyone has/finds/creates a suitable time based spreadsheet please send it to me; you will of course get some bonus points for this p.s. we'll see how NTSC times compare too (when we have some) 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3713636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Post #3 above has the HSC GP Standings I've just highlighted the best times for each track for now. I've done this manually (you can tell?!) If anyone has/finds/creates a suitable time based spreadsheet please send it to me; you will of course get some bonus points for this p.s. we'll see how NTSC times compare too (when we have some) What about a Google Sheet... We could enter our times ? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11xfxFl67mOYFjWb5Xcu4fENb4sMTpv2-bTkWMn9_99M/edit?usp=sharing We could work out a formula between that could highlight 1st, 2nd and 3rd on each track. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3713796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 [google sheet] So anyone can just update their own times, ok that's helpful but there must be a time based multi race table out there... search time ! Improvements from the evening session: 1*- 1:08:4 2 - 1:16:8 3 - 0:14:6 same time! 4 - 0:58:1 5 - 0:36:4 6 - 0:32:2 7 - 0:32:4 8 - 0:37:9 9 - 0:44:7 10 - 1:11:7 11 - 0:06:1 - anyone wanting a quick go pick out some of the short circuits! 12*- 1:30:1 - which sicko designed this one?!! 13 - 1:11:0 - this is a very nice circuit 14 - 1:02:3 15 - 0:50:4 16 - 0:33:5 17 - 0:28:9 *check direction after crashing on these circuits 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3713818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 I take back any criticism of the 1 player game, all it was lacking was some decent courses and some other people's times to compare to; and now we have both Most times with a dab on the brakes on the corners you can complete each track without crashing Afternoon Session! Taking a few laps to improve now, hopefully will be starting to give RT a challenge 1*- 1:05:0 2 - 1:15:3 3 - 0:14:6 4 - 0:57:6 5 - 0:36:4 6 - 0:32:2 7 - 0:32:4 8 - 0:34:3 - another nice simpler circuit 9 - 0:44:7 10 - 1:02:7 11 - 0:06:1 - anyone wanting a quick go pick out some of the short circuits! 12*- 1:30:1 - which sicko designed this one?!! 13 - 1:04:3 - this is a very nice circuit 14 - 1:02:3 15 - 0:48:4 16 - 0:33:5 17 - 0:28:9 *check direction after crashing on these circuits Post #3 has the latest HSC GP Standings 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Track 1 1.03.8Track 2 1.25.0 Track 3 13.9 Track 4 53.2 Edited March 9, 2017 by McKong 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 01:03:0001:20:0400:14:0000:56:0900:34:0300:29:0900:28:0400:33:0800:41:0800:59:0000:05:0001:12.0801:05:0500:57:0300:48:0100:31:0600:28:07 Track16 Mount Fuji Edited March 9, 2017 by RedThunder Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedThunder Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Scratch that post :-( Nothing to see here....move along! Edited March 9, 2017 by RedThunder 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
accousticguitar Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Is this only available in ATR? I don't think I can play ATRs. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) My lap times so far: Track 1: 1:10:0 Track 2: 1:21:0 Track 3: 0:16:0 Track 4: 0:59:6 Track 5: 0:36:1 Track 6: 0:34:3 Track 7: 0:31:1 Track 8: 0:32:4 Track 9: 0:43:0 Track 10: 1:02:2 Track 11: 0:05:1 Track 12: 1:35:3 Track 13: 1:11:2 Track 14: 1:00:2 Track 15: 0:52:9 Track 16: 0:33:4 Track 17: 0:27:9 Bonus Ice Trucker: 0:28:5 (heavy on the brakes here!) Btw, in the summary post on page 1 you have listed times as M:SS:0T which makes ít look like hundreds of a second. You probably want to edit all times to the M:SS:T format. Edited March 9, 2017 by carlsson Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitanClassic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Times so far (only did the first 6 tracks)T1 - 1:25.9T2 - 1:52.8T3 - 0:19.4T4 - 1:18.3T5 - 0:45.9T6 - 0:40.5 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Track 1: 1:13:1 Track 3: 0:18:4 Track 5: 0:45:4 Track 6: 0:42:5 Track 11: 0:06:0 I'm trying to get into it, but I'm having difficulty. I'll keep playing and try to post times for all the tracks, but I'm not sure how competitive I'll be in this one. Edited March 10, 2017 by Deteacher 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Is this only available in ATR? I don't think I can play ATRs. The file version/XEX of the original game can be downloaded from fandal; the two in-built tracks are part of the selection we are using (tracks 2 and track 4 just to make things confusing!). Let's see if we can help with the ATR - what setup are you using? ... Btw, in the summary post on page 1 you have listed times as M:SS:0T which makes ít look like hundreds of a second. You probably want to edit all times to the M:SS:T format. I noticed this too, i'll have a look at the spreadsheets format options I'm trying to get into it, but I'm having difficulty. I'll keep playing and try to post times for all the tracks, but I'm not sure how competitive I'll be in this one. Start on the more open / straighter Tracks 11 and 8 are good - I thought the same at first but the more I've played the more I've enjoyed the game. Look at "Make Trax" before racing to see what is coming up (press start to exit). Dabbing the breaks before every corner and spotting the pre-corner road change is key. I'm interested in your NTSC times to see if the game is balanced (or we can add in the "fiddle factor"!) - emulator users might try PAL if things are faster of course @CC are you on PAL or NTSC? I've squashed things down a bit HSC GP Standings, now where did all my top times go?! I'm blaming you carlsson 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) I realized sometimes it pays off to cut corners, i.e. drive across the grass if there are no obstacles there. Usually you lose speed going outisde the track, but you would lose speed braking in the corners as well. Captain Classic listed his times as M:SS.T with a dot instead of a colon to separate the last part. It seems to have survived better in the summary, so perhaps we all should try to list times in that format to not get that extra zero? Not that it really matters for the standings, it just looks silly if every lap record was set within the first 9 hundreds of a new second. As for XEX versions, I suppose the original game would need to be hacked into at least 9 different games, each containing two preloaded courses and you would have to load the respective XEX games. While I'm fairly well versed in machine code, I've never looked into hacking Atari games like this. Edited March 10, 2017 by carlsson 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Excel (my old ver) will format the cells as HH:MM:S but when I create a PRN for pasting here it reverets to HH:MM:SS (I know we are using tenths!) I can't recreate what I did with CC's times (copy/ paste / edit) so these will be in the same format as the others next update. We'll live with this I've been thinking about the scoring for this round and maybe using fractions for each race and improvement e.g. All actual HSC points Each Race 0.3pts (so if you played all 18 that's 6pts) Each Improvement place 0.2pts - might need to limit/reduce this depending on # of players to keep top player's max score should be between 12 and 24 points) 1pt for most wins overall Will run something through later Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I believe you can define custom cell formats in Excel. I ran a live tournament in Micro Hexagon last month and prepared OpenOffice to use a format M:SS.T everywhere. I don't know what it'd export to though. But it is no biggie. I wonder about the extra bits of tracks on the inside of the Indy 500. Is that supposed to be pit stop, disabled from the main track? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
accousticguitar Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 The file version/XEX of the original game can be downloaded from fandal; the two in-built tracks are part of the selection we are using (tracks 2 and track 4 just to make things confusing!). Let's see if we can help with the ATR - what setup are you using? I have the ultimate sd cart. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3714997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I have the ultimate sd cart. Yeah I've got an ultimate cart too, no support for ATRs as far as I know. Which is why I kept my SIO2SD! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3715073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Track 1 1.03.8Track 2 1.25.0 Track 3 13.9 Track 4 53.2 Track 5 33.2 Track 6 29.1 Track 7 28.8 Edited March 10, 2017 by McKong Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3715075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Track maintenance guys - crashing on left bends on Trax 14 restarted me on the vertical straight on the far right of the map - I guess the little guy was flung so far left that he crossed over 2 spaces?! today's improvements1*- 1:04:1 2 - 1:15:3 3 - 0:14:0 4 - 0:57:2 5 - 0:35:7 6 - 0:30:6 7 - 0:32:4 8 - 0:32:6 - another nice simpler circuit 9 - 0:42:0 10 - 0:55:8 11 - 0:05:0 - anyone wanting a quick go pick out some of the short circuits! 12*- 1:19:5 - which sicko designed this one?!! 13 - 1:04:3 - this is a very nice circuit 14*- 0:56:9 15 - 0:48:4 16 - 0:33:5 17 - 0:27:8 18 - 0:32:5 - Ice Road Trucker Challenge (see 1st post for settings) *check direction after crashing on these circuits Post #3 has the latest HSC GP Standings p.s. have cracked the time format/export issue (will appear next update), next to work on some scoring automation p.p.s. have mailed one of the SD Cart experts about the ATRs - meanwhile you can still play the 2 tracks from the XEX/file version Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3715140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Track 3: 0:16:0 Sleeπ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3715165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Track 1 1.03.8Track 2 1.25.0 Track 3 13.9 Track 4 53.2 Track 5 33.2 Track 6 29.1 Track 7 28.8 Track 8 30.7 Track 9 39.8 Track 10 55.0 Edited March 11, 2017 by McKong 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3715730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 p.p.s. have mailed one of the SD Cart experts about the ATRs - meanwhile you can still play the 2 tracks from the XEX/file version confirmed - you would need an SIO device for ATR support. So the two tracks from the XEX can be played and it's emulation for the others, sorry. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3715732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
accousticguitar Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 confirmed - you would need an SIO device for ATR support. So the two tracks from the XEX can be played and it's emulation for the others, sorry. No problem, this is for fun. Thanks for the info. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3715886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Ok I've been crunching the numbers and we have some proper HSC scoring in place, these are real HSC points so maximum is 20. Remember the "Ice Trucker Challenge" counts as Track 18 (it's Trax #17 with ICY FAST 100MPH). Will start the round 5 Poll tomorrow HSC Points For each race: 1pt for Win, 0.9pts for 2nd, 0.8pts 3rd... down to 0.1pt for 10th and below. Plus 1pt for highest score (#included), then, plus 1pt for most wins ($included). HSC GP Standings Edited March 13, 2017 by therealbountybob 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3716060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Ok, here are some more times for me: Track 2: 1:41:5 Track 6: 38:7 Track 7: 36:0 Track 13: 1:23:9 I didn't bother with screenies this time, but I have them if anyone wants to see them... 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/262954-hsc14-round-4-the-rally-speedway-hsc-grand-prix/page/2/#findComment-3716066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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