Miketage Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just starting out with intybasic and have been going through Oscars book tonight. I'm at the part discussing programming controllers and was wondering whats the best way to do so? Is everyone buying usb adapters or converting extra controllers? At the risk of probably missing an existing thread I just wanted to ask. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just starting out with intybasic and have been going through Oscars book tonight. I'm at the part discussing programming controllers and was wondering whats the best way to do so? Is everyone buying usb adapters or converting extra controllers? At the risk of probably missing an existing thread I just wanted to ask. I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking how to test your hand-controller decoding using an actual hand-controller? That is typically done using a flash-cart, such as the CC3 (discontinued) or the LTO Flash! (still available). You put your program ROM in the flash-cart and test it directly on the original hardware. You could test using a special adapter connected via USB (some of which are available), but since you probably still want to test your game on the real hardware, may as well get a flash-cart. -dZ. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miketage Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking how to test your hand-controller decoding using an actual hand-controller? That is typically done using a flash-cart, such as the CC3 (discontinued) or the LTO Flash! (still available). You put your program ROM in the flash-cart and test it directly on the original hardware. You could test using a special adapter connected via USB (some of which are available), but since you probably still want to test your game on the real hardware, may as well get a flash-cart. -dZ. I should've been more clear. I meant using a controller in jzintv on my pc. I figured getting an adapter would probably be the best route. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I should've been more clear. I meant using a controller in jzintv on my pc. I figured getting an adapter would probably be the best route. I imagine that getting an adapter would be the only route to use the Intellivision controller on a PC. -dZ. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) I should've been more clear. I meant using a controller in jzintv on my pc. I figured getting an adapter would probably be the best route. There are a few USB adapters for Intellivision controllers. Raphnet makes one for the original console controllers - it supports one controller, so you need two if you want to test/play two player games. https://www.raphnet-tech.com/products/intellivision_to_usb_adapter/index.php Retronic makes a USB adapter with a DB9 connector, so it is useful with Intellivision Flashback controllers, Intellivision II controllers, and I think the original console controllers need an extra adapter - it supports one controller, so you need two if you want to test/play two player games. https://www.retronicdesign.com/en/specifications/intellivision-controllers/ One of the more popular adapters is the Ultimate PC Interface - it supports two controllers with one adapter, so the price reflects this http://www.intellivision.us/intvgames/interface/interface.php Another popular adapter is the "2600-dapter D9" which is essentially half of the UPCI adapter - it supports one controller, so you need two if you want to test/play two player games http://www.2600-daptor.com/ The Raphnet and Retronic are fairly dedicated to the Intellivision controller. The UPCI and the 2600-dapter D9 are much more flexible - meaning that they support many other controllers and stuff for other systems. Other than that, there really is no advantage of one over the other. There will be a "hackfile" that is needed to be used, and the hackfile version is dependent on the adapter used. This is essentially a mapping file for the controller that jzintv requires. Some of the sites have notes about this...or just let us know which you are using and we can help you out Edited November 5, 2018 by fdr4prez 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miketage Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Thanks guys I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 There's also one created by nurmix, no? He's the guy from the Intellivisionaries Podcast. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 There's also one created by nurmix, no? He's the guy from the Intellivisionaries Podcast. I am not aware of him making a USB adapter. He has made a wired adapter so you can use FB controllers on an original console, and he has made a wired adapter for using FB controllers on an Intv II console. http://intellivisionaries.com/flashback/ So if you get the Raphnet adapter since it has the connector for the original console controllers, then you can get the wired adapter from nurmix to also plug in FB controllers to it. That'll give you some flexibility on which controller you can use. But you can't use the Intv II controllers, but who wants to do that? The UPCI and the 2600-dapter D9 both have optional "dongles" for allowing you to connect the original controller into said adapter. So these two USB adapters can use all flavors of Intv controllers that are out there. I am not sure if that little dongle works for the Retronic adapter, or not. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miketage Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 I am not aware of him making a USB adapter. He has made a wired adapter so you can use FB controllers on an original console, and he has made a wired adapter for using FB controllers on an Intv II console. http://intellivisionaries.com/flashback/ So if you get the Raphnet adapter since it has the connector for the original console controllers, then you can get the wired adapter from nurmix to also plug in FB controllers to it. That'll give you some flexibility on which controller you can use. But you can't use the Intv II controllers, but who wants to do that? The UPCI and the 2600-dapter D9 both have optional "dongles" for allowing you to connect the original controller into said adapter. So these two USB adapters can use all flavors of Intv controllers that are out there. INTV1-dongle.jpg I am not sure if that little dongle works for the Retronic adapter, or not. very cool thanks for the info Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4150932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 That dongle will work with any usb adapter, it's just a connector adapter. If Nurmix is still making these things he could probably make any wiring/connector adapter you want but not a usb adapter. I had an extra original intellivision controller and changed the connector by replacing the cable with a sega genesis extension cable. No special tools required. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4151060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miketage Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Wound up biting the bullet and ordering the 2600-dapter D9. Since it can do so many controllers I can make good use of it with my raspberry pi. I appreciate everyone's input a lot. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/284738-question-about-using-controllers-for-testing-in-intybasic/#findComment-4151088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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