+Defender_2600 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Ecernosoft said: Really?!?!? *sigh* whatever........ Unfortunately that's probably also going to wreck the chance of me ever playing this unfortunately since I'm not really into this game. The 320C version looked great!! I will say however in this case 160 seems far better for this game. I think 320C looks stellar though. It's okay to prefer the version you call the 320C, although the one shown is a 320A + 320C version and objectively it's a step down from the NES version, as it has fewer colors on screen and less depth of color in the tiles. Also on CRT, all those black pixels (that you see in the tiles) will merge into a solid block of graphics, negating the high resolution advantage. There is no winner between 320 mode and 160 mode, each game has distinctive characteristics and some judgment is required regarding which video mode is most suitable, and in the end the developer's preferences will also play a role in the choice. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris1997XX Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Defender_2600 said: It's okay to prefer the version you call the 320C, although the one shown is a 320A + 320C version and objectively it's a step down from the NES version, as it has fewer colors on screen and less depth of color in the tiles. Also on CRT, all those black pixels (that you see in the tiles) will merge into a solid block of graphics, negating the high resolution advantage. There is no winner between 320 mode and 160 mode, each game has distinctive characteristics and some judgment is required regarding which video mode is most suitable, and in the end the developer's preferences will also play a role in the choice. Yeah, might as well go with the more colorful graphics 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) On 2/6/2023 at 9:57 PM, saxmeister said: I know I'm resurrecting an old thread, but one of the solutions would be to make the sprites almost twice as tall and take up more of the screen. That gives a zoom effect but gives a lot of character detail. It reminds me of games on the Sega Game Gear. I added a title screen and part of the title music. Not much to look at yet, but just a concept for how it could look with "tall" graphics. JS7800 Link: https://raz0red.github.io/js7800/?cart=https://forums.atariage.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=1002388&key=d5c21a884d417200b6bf28cac0cd67ba (The POKEY sound doesn't work well with this file and JS7800. The music never works at first and I have to reload to hear the music.) kidicarus03.78b.a78 48.13 kB · 12 downloads kidicarus03.78b.bin 48 kB · 4 downloads For someone who loves 320C, can we have a 320C mode....? (please?) Still, those graphics are BEAUTIFUL. And that title-screen really shines with 320C! Actually, I think I might go with this game. It's turning out better than I thought! On 2/14/2023 at 8:15 PM, Defender_2600 said: It's okay to prefer the version you call the 320C, although the one shown is a 320A + 320C version and objectively it's a step down from the NES version, as it has fewer colors on screen and less depth of color in the tiles. Also on CRT, all those black pixels (that you see in the tiles) will merge into a solid block of graphics, negating the high resolution advantage. There is no winner between 320 mode and 160 mode, each game has distinctive characteristics and some judgment is required regarding which video mode is most suitable, and in the end the developer's preferences will also play a role in the choice. True, true. Edited February 16, 2023 by Ecernosoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) Whoops! Edited February 16, 2023 by Ecernosoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 9:53 PM, Ecernosoft said: Really?!?!? *sigh* whatever........ Unfortunately that's probably also going to wreck the chance of me ever playing this unfortunately since I'm not really into this game. The 320C version looked great!! I will say however in this case 160 seems far better for this game. I think 320C looks stellar though. But, whatever..... It's looking like I'm going with 320C backgrounds for TLON! (And I do mean for the level graphics too. ICT3 was pretty color-less mostly. Would someone tell this kids parents to come collect him, please? Let them know he's been acting very special online again. I have a hunch they will probably know what you mean right away. Dunno if they will do anything about it though but it's worth a shot right? 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/20/2019 at 9:23 PM, sgrddy said: Something I did a few years ago. It doesn't do anything. Just a screen to see what it would look like. kidicarus.bas.a78 48.13 kB · 124 downloads kidicarus_bin.bin 48 kB · 86 downloads Epic. Just Epic. This could be something amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Shawn said: Would someone tell this kids parents to come collect him, please? Let them know he's been acting very special online again. I have a hunch they will probably know what you mean right away. Dunno if they will do anything about it though but it's worth a shot right? whoops. sorry. (Speaking of....... you still all hate me, don't you. It's ok. I'll leave. Just so you know, you might shorten Atariage's lifespan........ but OK!) *thinks about contacting albert about removing his account* *contacts albert about removing his account* Edited February 17, 2023 by Ecernosoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris1997XX Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Shawn said: Would someone tell this kids parents to come collect him, please? Let them know he's been acting very special online again. I have a hunch they will probably know what you mean right away. Dunno if they will do anything about it though but it's worth a shot right? Pretty sure his parents just gave him a computer or something so that he could kill time. I really doubt they give a shit... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 8:53 PM, Ecernosoft said: Guys, can someone contact @Albert about giving us the option to delete posts? That's not going to happen, but if you have a compelling reason for a post or posts to be removed, please let me know and I will consider it. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Albert said: That's not going to happen, but if you have a compelling reason for a post or posts to be removed, please let me know and I will consider it. ..Al Yeah, I didn't think so. Speaking of removing things, I'd like to remove my account. origonally I was going to send you this in a PM..... but since your right here...... Before I go for good, Thank you for all the amazing things you've done. For me. For the 7800, 5200, and 2600 community. And the computer community. For letting us share our Atari goodness with eachother. And thank you @PacManPlus for the amazing ports to the 7800 like Frenzy and Beserk. Thank the creator of Zippy for me. Now, either you or I will permanenently remove my account..... for good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 @Ecernosoft You should probably log out for a bit and calm down. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Ecernosoft said: you still all hate me Nobody hates you, really. Accept criticism when it's constructive, but then don't worry too much, adults make mistakes too. Enjoy your hobby. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 14 hours ago, Ecernosoft said: whoops. sorry. (Speaking of....... you still all hate me, don't you. It's ok. I'll leave. Just so you know, you might shorten Atariage's lifespan........ but OK!) *thinks about contacting albert about removing his account* *contacts albert about removing his account* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris1997XX Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 16 hours ago, Ecernosoft said: Yeah, I didn't think so. Speaking of removing things, I'd like to remove my account. origonally I was going to send you this in a PM..... but since your right here...... Before I go for good, Thank you for all the amazing things you've done. For me. For the 7800, 5200, and 2600 community. And the computer community. For letting us share our Atari goodness with eachother. And thank you @PacManPlus for the amazing ports to the 7800 like Frenzy and Beserk. Thank the creator of Zippy for me. Now, either you or I will permanenently remove my account..... for good. Yeah, mate...I think you should chill a tad. You never lower your guard as if everyone is against you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 It's a bit sad and disappointing when a group of adults act like schoolyard bullies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 8 hours ago, splendidnut said: It's a bit sad and disappointing when a group of adults act like schoolyard bullies. FFS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Shawn said: FFS Same to you @Shawn. You're the one that posted a completely off-topic comment for laughs, which is "Class Clown" type of behavior. Which took us down this path. That's on you. I get that a lot of you are annoyed by this kid. But try to be respectful about it. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris1997XX Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 17 hours ago, splendidnut said: It's a bit sad and disappointing when a group of adults act like schoolyard bullies. Maybe he should've just listened to us instead of going his merry way and ignoring everyone else. Plus, he's oddly obsessed with the 320 modes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Cris1997XX said: Maybe he should've just listened to us instead of going his merry way and ignoring everyone else. Plus, he's oddly obsessed with the 320 modes... So that's your justification for: On 2/16/2023 at 7:17 PM, Cris1997XX said: Pretty sure his parents just gave him a computer or something so that he could kill time. I really doubt they give a shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+splendidnut Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cris1997XX said: Plus, he's oddly obsessed with the 320 modes... Tell him to stop talking about it and go make a project with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+saxmeister Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Now, back to our regularly scheduled program... 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Forums are interesting when you mix the unintentionally provoking but sensitive types with intentionally provoking and insensitive. I've never seen the latter change their ways but Ecernosoft could learn. For me it was a process of curbing over-sharing and understanding some don't realize how hurtful they are by being brusque. No one hates you Ecernosoft. They don't even understand what they be do. As for the subject at hand.. well, that 160 version does look good despite the sorta stretched tiles/sprites. Maybe the community could come up with a conversion topic where we take a stab at desired tiles and try redesigning them for 160 mode. That takes care of the legal problem of using ripped sprites. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) On 2/16/2023 at 7:23 PM, Ecernosoft said: Now, either you or I will permanenently remove my account..... for good. I'm not sure if they actually remove accounts here. Doing so may screw with how posts are viewed and archived. You can always ask to be perma-banned if that's what you really desire. Might buy some of us some peace and quiet at least, considering this is your 57th outburst or so, heh. May your next endeavor bring you greater happiness (tip: go outside more often, it helps). 35 minutes ago, Gemintronic said: I've never seen the latter change their ways but Ecernosoft could learn. I remember when I was communicating on the internet at his age, I made stupid mistakes and acted odd, but I learned from my experiences and got better. I especially respected the advice of those that were older that had significantly more experience in life, and it positively shaped me as a person. With him on the other hand, it's like things go in one ear and out the other and his outbursts are constant distractions to meaningful conversation here. Related to the main thread, I liked the idea of making it look more Game Gear-like. Might not work that well for something like Kid Icarus since there's a ton of vertical screen scrolling (hence experimenting with higher resolutions, I see), but I bet with another game it could work well, like bringing the original GG Sonic to the 7800. Edited February 18, 2023 by Austin 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 12:06 AM, Ecernosoft said: For someone who loves 320C, can we have a 320C mode....? (please?) When I have some time, the only thing I can do is a mockup with real 320C graphics, just to see how it would look. But you stick around, and keep practicing the code. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris1997XX Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Defender_2600 said: When I have some time, the only thing I can do is a mockup with real 320C graphics, just to see how it would look. But you stick around, and keep practicing the code. Or...you know, make an enhanced MARIA graphics chip with better 320 modes 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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