nyhack56 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I upgraded my Retron 77 to Stella 6.2.1. I am having the same issue with the paddles. I have the paddles plugged into the Left Port of the Retron. I have a joystick in the right to access the game settings. I don't have any ROMS, only carts. When I play Super Breakout for example, the paddles do not work. The button works, but the dial does not. The game settings do auto detect the paddles in the left port, and the joystick in the right port. Is this a known issue that is being debugged? For what it's worth, the paddles work (with some jitter) under Stella 6.1.1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4585503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 What kind of paddles do you use? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4585539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyhack56 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I have a pair of Atari OEM ones, and I have a pair of Gemini. They both act the same way. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4585599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Is it confirmed that the Stella 6 firmware is not compatible with the paddle functionality of the Ranger? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4586650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixdude Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, bmadgames said: Is it confirmed that the Stella 6 firmware is not compatible with the paddle functionality of the Ranger? Thanks for asking, I have this same question as well. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4586651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redjac Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, unixdude said: Thanks for asking, I have this same question as well. I also can't get the Ranger paddles to function with the community build. Works fine with stock firmware. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4586703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 We will look into this. It did work with the previous releases, correct? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4586734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: We will look into this. It did work with the previous releases, correct? Thanks for looking into it. The controller worked on the original firmware, but I am not sure about previous releases as I just recently got the R77. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4586896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I still can't get the Atari & AtGames paddles to work in the front ports using the most recent Stella update. I guess the only option is to go with the 2600 daptor and Y-cable and plug it in to the back. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4586909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redjac Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, bmadgames said: Thanks for looking into it. The controller worked on the original firmware, but I am not sure about previous releases as I just recently got the R77. Likewise, I'm new to the R77. Ranger does work with stock firmware. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4586973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Anyone who knows or can check with which Stella version the problem started? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4587043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Jentzsch said: Anyone who knows or can check with which Stella version the problem started? I was able to do some testing. The problem starts with Stella version 6.1.2. In all prior versions that I tested on the R77, the Ranger paddle function seemed to be working properly. Just let me know if there is any other testing that you would like me to do with the Ranger. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4588352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Thanks a lot! Just to be sure: 6.1.1 still worked? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4588427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Thanks a lot! Just to be sure: 6.1.1 still worked? Yep! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4588603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) Cool. That will help finding the reason a LOT. After looking through the changes, can you please try this: either use the advanced settings and then Options/Input/Emul. Events and there press Defaults or delete all sqlite files on the SD cart This might solve the problem. Or not. Edited July 19, 2020 by Thomas Jentzsch Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4588817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 But what about original Atari paddles? When did those stop working on R77 or did they ever work to begin with (using the front port)? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4588890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 They used to work with the community version of Stella. The current situation is a regression. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4588901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 12 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Cool. That will help finding the reason a LOT. After looking through the changes, can you please try this: either use the advanced settings and then Options/Input/Emul. Events and there press Defaults or delete all sqlite files on the SD cart This might solve the problem. Or not. Hi Thomas, I was able to test and the first option (Going to advanced settings then options/input/emul and pressing defaults) fixed the issue and the Ranger paddles now works as intended in version 6.2.1. Please let me know if you have any questions or need my assistance with any additional testing. Thank you! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Glad to hear that this fixed your problem. Now I hope it works for everyone else too. Please let me know. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyhack56 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I tried option 1 • use the advanced settings and then Options/Input/Emul. Events and there press Defaults and it worked. I tested the Atari paddles and the Gemini paddles. They both worked although there is a bit of jittering going on, but I don't know if that's a Retron 77 issue or not, and I don't know how I could determine that. Thanks! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Have you tried the dejitter options? (Advanced) Options/Input/Devices & Ports Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) I did the advanced-options-input-emul-default then plugged my AtGames paddles in and they work with a little jitter. These are like new paddles, bit they are usable. I didn't get a chance to try the dejitter settings. Edited July 20, 2020 by atarifan88 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Check the dejitter settings in Advanced Options/Input/Devices & Ports. Edited July 20, 2020 by Thomas Jentzsch 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Check the dejitter settings in Advanced Options/Input/Devices & Ports. Figured out how to get to that tab by hitting one of the back buttons on the R77. Changed both the dejitter averaging and reaction to 8 and that fixed the issue. I left the sensitivity at 100. Thanks for the help! Edited July 20, 2020 by atarifan88 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyhack56 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 4 hours ago, atarifan88 said: Figured out how to get to that tab by hitting one of the back buttons on the R77. Changed both the dejitter averaging and reaction to 8 and that fixed the issue. I left the sensitivity at 100. Thanks for the help! I played around with thise settings. I can't get the dejitter to completely go away, but it reduces if I set dejitter averaging to 10 and reaction to 8. I also left sensitivity at 100 as I found changing it up or down dosen't affect the actual jittering. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/289929-stella-6-on-the-r77-the-eagle-is-landing/page/17/#findComment-4589992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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