rdefabri Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, jamm said: Looks like TBA is selling them, too, which I didn't know when I ordered from Poland. https://thebrewingacademy.com/collections/atari-800-xl-xe-xel-xld/products/incognito-with-fjcs-firmware Thanks! What's the going rate for these? I am looking at purchasing another 800, and I'd like to add one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, rdefabri said: Thanks! What's the going rate for these? I am looking at purchasing another 800, and I'd like to add one of these. 130. I installed mine and it worked! And I would say my skills are probably a 2 out of 5. Edited March 30, 2020 by leech 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) currently anywhere from 100.00 to 130.00 depending on who you buy them from and what configuration cpld/firmware BIOS you want. Although sometimes people have tried selling at 140-150 on ebay and marketplace I will say TBA (Mothers home away from home) is the best choice for most... already upgraded, ready to install, good support, great customer care, and excellent installation if needed. no need to buy programmers, cables, large software with all that jazz to get it working-driver hell-install it-etc etc. do yourself the biggest favor buy it from The Brewing Academy if you are in the USA Edited March 30, 2020 by _The Doctor__ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Of course if you already have programmers, cables and large software with all that jazz, then you save $30 and upgrade yourself. Of course it depends on where you hail from and where you are ordering from; with today's crazy shipping you might actually save buying an upgraded vesion domestically, something to look into. Unless that includes shipping, I don't recall if we payed shipping or not with the pre-orders from Lotharek...?? It cost me an extra $20 for the upgrade anyway, that I donated directly to FJC, even though I'm installing myself. Edited March 31, 2020 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Gunstar said: Of course if you already have programmers, cables and large software with all that jazz, then you save $30 and upgrade yourself. Of course it depends on where you hail from and where you are ordering from; with today's crazy shipping you might actually save buying an upgraded vesion domestically, something to look into. Unless that includes shipping, I don't recall if we payed shipping or not with the pre-orders from Lotharek...?? It cost me an extra $20 for the upgrade anyway, that I donated directly to FJC, even though I'm installing myself. I've always found that most places that sell things have already figured out the magical ways of shipping for less, whereas us mere mortals shipping a computer off, especially overseas, if done through some places will cost a hell of a lot more than it's worth. A good example of this was that I 3D printed up some eGPU cases for the Nova VME cards, in a fair trade for two of the cards for myself, though with the cost to ship, I could have just bought them! But hey, at least it put my printer to a good use. Sadly, just now it decided to do quite a few layers of the print I was doing, so I took a nap... to wake up to it having lost it's adhesion to the bed, and the print became a nasty mess, where I had to clean off the nozzle. No matter how I type that, it sounds like it could be something inappropriate. Ha! Edited March 31, 2020 by leech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Ha, again the print messed up, so I just printed these apart from those. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Just now, leech said: Ha, again the print messed up, so I just printed these apart from those. Looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) On 3/30/2020 at 11:26 AM, leech said: The landscape for the internet is weird. You basically now have the choice of Firefox, or one of its many forks. Or Webkit based browsers, which don't all have the same compatibility with each other. Like I can use Safari or Chrome and get different results than say Epiphany. Well, now I need to look up this firing of the CEO... Well, ironically, my Opera browser developed an issue yesterday where it wouldn't start, and after checking for the issue and doing a system restore I couldn't get it to work anymore, so I guess it's just as well I'm looking for a new browser right now anyway. I used IE to find a list of all the currently supported browsers and I am currently online with SeaMonkey browser which seems fine for me so far, apparently one of those Firefox forks you spoke of. I will miss Opera's Speed dial bookmark system though, and now I will have to re-bookmark all my favorites if I choose to keep using SeaMonkey. Edited April 2, 2020 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Gunstar said: Well, ironically, my Opera browser developed an issue yesterday where it wouldn't start, and after checking for the issue and doing a system restore I couldn't get it to work anymore, so I guess it's just as well I'm looking for a new browser right now anyway. I used IE to find a list of all the currently supported browsers and I am currently online with SeaMonkey browser which seems fine for me so far, apparently one of those Firefox forks you spoke of. I will miss Opera's Speed dial bookmark system though, and now I will have to re-bookmark all my favorites if I choose to keep using SeaMonkey. Huh, are you lucky enough that Opera saves it's bookmarks in a file that can easily be imported? I kind of thought SeaMonkey was just Firefox with developer tools enabled, right? Oh, maybe it's the one that includes all the stuff from the old Netscape / Mozilla stuff before they split it into Firefox/Thunderbird, etc. All the things should still work nicely then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Yeah, Netscape/Mozilla stuff. Originally I was a Netscape user, back in the 90's and early 2000's. I don't recall. I'll have to see about the Opera Bookmarks, I may be able to transfer them, but I had too many to keep track of myself, having just recently moving them and dividing them into sub-folders. But the Speed dial isn't the same as the regular bookmarks which Opera has too. It's more like a Xbox 360/One or Windows 10 "desktop" windows where you save sites to "speed dial" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Not sure if anyone else has discovered this nice thing about the Incognito. It seems to be less picky on CF cards. I have some Sandisk 4GB ones, that the SIDE2 just won't read. Was trying to figure out what I did with the Kingston 8GB one I had in the SIDE2, because the Sandisk one I had sitting in the cart wouldn't read... then remembered I put it into the Incognito while I copied the files to the Sandisk, and hey the Sandisk one reads fine in the Incognito! So the Kingston one went back into the SIDE2. Stupid finicky Compact Flash cards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1977 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I've just installed mine as per FJC's YouTube vid, it's only took me six months or so to get round to it ? Next I need to sort the disk swap button out ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 5 hours ago, adam1977 said: I've just installed mine as per FJC's YouTube vid, it's only took me six months or so to get round to it ? Next I need to sort the disk swap button out ? That is where I am at. I already have a crack in the top of the case, so I may route something through there. Question, anyone know if it is possible to do an LED display showing what is loaded through it? Like on a Gotek or something? I also thought it would be goofy to get Alexa or something on it ? 'Alexa, load Bruce Lee' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1977 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I could probably manage to do the light pipe mod, but I quite fancy using the channel switch on the side as a swap button. I know the original switch can't be used, so I thought about using another type in it's place, i'll figure it out though ? 'Alexa, load Bruce Lee' - imagine that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, adam1977 said: I could probably manage to do the light pipe mod, but I quite fancy using the channel switch on the side as a swap button. I know the original switch can't be used, so I thought about using another type in it's place, i'll figure it out though ? 'Alexa, load Bruce Lee' - imagine that ? Well they have FujuNet working with SAM, now I want it to respond instead of Alexa ha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xebec Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I'm finally getting around to my "had an Incognito for a long time, let's install it" stage :). (After repairing an 800XL I'm feeling brave again). What cartridges don't work if you don't replace the RD4/RD5 pulldown resistors during the install? I need to sort through my resistors and see if I have something adequate.. Additionaly, you may want to replace RD4/RD5 pulldown resistors to something ranging from 1.5k to 2.2kOhms. It will improove compatibility with cartridges, as protection resistors on Incognito board form with original ones voltage divider that may render some carts unusable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Xebec said: I'm finally getting around to my "had an Incognito for a long time, let's install it" stage :). (After repairing an 800XL I'm feeling brave again). What cartridges don't work if you don't replace the RD4/RD5 pulldown resistors during the install? I need to sort through my resistors and see if I have something adequate.. Additionaly, you may want to replace RD4/RD5 pulldown resistors to something ranging from 1.5k to 2.2kOhms. It will improove compatibility with cartridges, as protection resistors on Incognito board form with original ones voltage divider that may render some carts unusable. At the time I put mine in, I used 2k ones as that is all I had, they seem to work fine, so 1.5k to 2.2k is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 stay as close to the original values as possible so if you need to pull the incognito... you still have a fully happy 800 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1977 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 If I remove the channel switch on the side, would that affect the 800 at all? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) If your not using RF, it has no effect, I know people say don't use the original for a disk swap, but I buffered mine with a small circuit and it works just fine (I did clean it first though) There's a post from me on Page 28 of this thread with details Edited April 14, 2020 by TGB1718 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1977 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I removed the RF tuner, so removing the channel switch should be fine then ? I'll have a look at your circuit too just in case ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) why would you do that, there is so much room inside the 800 and the case, you can do almost any upgrade stealth, just like the fine power light to key/switch mod... Perfect like it was meant to be. Edited April 14, 2020 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: why would you do that, there is so much room inside the 800 and the case, you can do almost any upgrade stealth, just like the fine power light to key/switch mod... Perfect like it was meant to be. I probably will eventually just do the power light mod, I just cringe about anything involving a drill. I mean it isn't for PCBs, I just have a history with power tools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Worley Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 5:24 PM, leech said: That is where I am at. I already have a crack in the top of the case, so I may route something through there. Question, anyone know if it is possible to do an LED display showing what is loaded through it? Like on a Gotek or something? I also thought it would be goofy to get Alexa or something on it ? 'Alexa, load Bruce Lee' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Nice envelope, my chip is sitting on my throttle of my Thrustmaster Warthog at the moment. I should do something similar. Though that's why I generally buy two of each system, one to mod, one to keep stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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