+9640News Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 After I sent out that update last night, I have always had a bit of frustration with just 40 columns. I have tried numerous approaches to implement an 80 column caller display to the BBS using some string handling display code that was in the original source. Things would never display properly. Last night, I got an idea of using some self modifying code and I now have text files displaying as they should for an 80 column display. My intention here, unless Greg and Wolfgang have a problem, is to create 80 column text versions of the AFTER\TEXTxx files. So, there will be both 40 column and 80 column versions of these files. I will modify the code so that something like TEXTMM for 40 column will remain the same and create T8XTMM for 80 column. I hope that makes sense. At the point a connection is made, the caller will select between 40 or 80 column display. After the caller disconnects or timeouts, the board will revert back to 40 column configuration. That should also add to the display file for the TEXTUL for more easily readable text and file information. Message base display also works with the existing code. I need to make sure the message editor which is really the last piece, is functional in both 40 and 80 columns. Anyways, now that all the BBS answering, disconnecting, and PI rebooting for bad connection issues have been resolved, I now have more time to address some other things I wanted. Beery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 I should also add that after the last update set of files posted last night, I am observing no Windows Telnet to BBS 2nd login attempts/timeouts. This was about the same time I upgraded from 1.61 to 1.62 on the TIPI. I did not see any commits on GitHub that explain this, so perhaps there may have been something triggered by a PI update unbeknownst by all. Beery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, BeeryMiller said: I should also add that after the last update set of files posted last night, I am observing no Windows Telnet to BBS 2nd login attempts/timeouts. This was about the same time I upgraded from 1.61 to 1.62 on the TIPI. I did not see any commits on GitHub that explain this, so perhaps there may have been something triggered by a PI update unbeknownst by all. Beery Hi Beery, I'm on tipi version 1.61 and since yesterday I discovered, the re-login problem has disappeared. What I did, I've cleaned up all my text files, but I doubt it has anything to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Today I modified some files for the BBS to translate to German texts and I made some minor corrections in the BBSTEXTSRC file. The BBS works for me perfect and very fast. I does not know if I connect through the internet or my router redirect me direct to my BBS in the local network? Anyway it is fast and I see no error right now. My changed files are in the zip file: AHG0529.zip If you are working on some of these files don't worry, I can make my changes again in your sources. It's not a problem. Wolfgang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Hi Beery, is there a assembly listing like in the E/A on the TI with the Option L and S? I tried to enter a listfile, but the result is a short summary like I see on the Geneve screen. In the manual GenASM.pdf I didn't find an option for a detailed listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 I don't think in all the years I have used the L or S options. Have you tried using the X or Y options? Beery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, wolhess said: Hi Beery, I'm on tipi version 1.61 and since yesterday I discovered, the re-login problem has disappeared. What I did, I've cleaned up all my text files, but I doubt it has anything to do with it. I'm guessing there must have been something with the PI that was updated since it suddenly disappeared for you even before the upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, BeeryMiller said: Have you tried using the X or Y options? Not yet, but next time I will give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, wolhess said: Today I modified some files for the BBS to translate to German texts and I made some minor corrections in the BBSTEXTSRC file. The BBS works for me perfect and very fast. I does not know if I connect through the internet or my router redirect me direct to my BBS in the local network? Anyway it is fast and I see no error right now. My changed files are in the zip file: AHG0529.zip 17.43 kB · 1 download If you are working on some of these files don't worry, I can make my changes again in your sources. It's not a problem. Wolfgang Connection may be a bit quicker as I reduced the time on a delay loop around the keyscan routine which should make the L option for local login a bit quicker to respond. I opened the zip file up and saw the files were rather small, so probably no issue getting your changes into the program. If your changes use the IF TBOX ELSE FI like I used in the BBSTEXTSRC file, then I can pretty much just copy those files as is without doing any editing myself. That would make things a bit easier on my end in the future. In the BBSTEXTSRC file, the IF TBOX statement is near the begging of the file with the ELSE at the break point between the English and German, and finally the FI at the end of the source file if you need to see how the statement is used. What happens, the TBOX is basically a TRUE/FALSE parameter based upon the TBOX EQU statement in the BBS-TBOX source file. So, you need the IF ELSE FI usage so one set of code is used with the Labels, or the other set would be used. If someone ends up wanting to run the program in another language other than English or German, then I am going to have to figure out another way. One step at a time. Beery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, BeeryMiller said: After I sent out that update last night, I have always had a bit of frustration with just 40 columns. I have tried numerous approaches to implement an 80 column caller display to the BBS using some string handling display code that was in the original source. Things would never display properly. Last night, I got an idea of using some self modifying code and I now have text files displaying as they should for an 80 column display. My intention here, unless Greg and Wolfgang have a problem, is to create 80 column text versions of the AFTER\TEXTxx files. So, there will be both 40 column and 80 column versions of these files. I will modify the code so that something like TEXTMM for 40 column will remain the same and create T8XTMM for 80 column. I hope that makes sense. At the point a connection is made, the caller will select between 40 or 80 column display. After the caller disconnects or timeouts, the board will revert back to 40 column configuration. That should also add to the display file for the TEXTUL for more easily readable text and file information. Message base display also works with the existing code. I need to make sure the message editor which is really the last piece, is functional in both 40 and 80 columns. Anyways, now that all the BBS answering, disconnecting, and PI rebooting for bad connection issues have been resolved, I now have more time to address some other things I wanted. Beery Wolfgang suggested on his BBS that I also incorporate 64 columns since Matt's Telnet client supports 64 column mode. I will look at 64 column as well. Beery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, BeeryMiller said: If your changes use the IF TBOX ELSE FI like I used in the BBSTEXTSRC file, then I can pretty much just copy those files as is without doing any editing myself. That would make things a bit easier on my end in the future. Yes, I used your IF TBOX ELSE FI with the comments too, so it‘s very easy to find and copy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Wolfgang, I got your edits incorporated and started working on the 80 column modifications. Your text edits are using more bytes and it is pushing the limits of the 24K memory space. Do you have an Editor/Assembler cartridge with the 8K ram chip you can use? If so, then no problem with the edits for you. I am still going to be really crowded even for the no 8K version as I am not complete with my edits yet. Greg, do you have an E/A catridge with the 8K ram chip you would commit to the BBS? If both of you do, I will just go ahead and make the change to make things easier all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Wolfgang, I got your edits incorporated and started working on the 80 column modifications. Your text edits are using more bytes and it is pushing the limits of the 24K memory space. Do you have an Editor/Assembler cartridge with the 8K ram chip you can use? If so, then no problem with the edits for you. I am still going to be really crowded even for the no 8K version as I am not complete with my edits yet. Greg, do you have an E/A catridge with the 8K ram chip you would commit to the BBS? If both of you do, I will just go ahead and make the change to make things easier all around.I can or my machine has a Sam's 1mbSent from my LM-G820 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 I've got 40/64/80 columns working for the English version in the 24K ram space. I think I have about 14 bytes of free space. I need to do some evaluation to see how much larger the German version is to see if I can squeeze a few bytes out someplace. Hopefully, Wolfgang has a EA cartridge with the 8K ram. If I am not mistaken, the Sams card does not give ram in the >6000 to >8000 space, correct? That's the easiest to implement as the Geneve does not have SAMS memory. AfterHours can be run right now on either the minimal system consisting of a TI-99/4A, TIPI, and 32K (English version) or a Geneve system in Rompage mode. Beery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I've got 40/64/80 columns working for the English version in the 24K ram space. I think I have about 14 bytes of free space. I need to do some evaluation to see how much larger the German version is to see if I can squeeze a few bytes out someplace. Hopefully, Wolfgang has a EA cartridge with the 8K ram. If I am not mistaken, the Sams card does not give ram in the >6000 to >8000 space, correct? That's the easiest to implement as the Geneve does not have SAMS memory. AfterHours can be run right now on either the minimal system consisting of a TI-99/4A, TIPI, and 32K (English version) or a Geneve system in Rompage mode. BeerySam's pages in 4k at a time in the 32k range.. http://www.unige.ch/medecine/nouspikel/ti99/superams.htmSent from my LM-G820 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 hours ago, BeeryMiller said: Do you have an Editor/Assembler cartridge with the 8K ram chip you can use? Yes I have an E/A cartridge with 8k ram. I can use it for the BBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 @BeeryMiller The 8k RAM E/A cartridge is no problem for me, I have two of those. But can you also use the lower RAM in the TI? I was reading yesterday in the GenLink manual the Linker can use it with the BLOCK directive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Today I was testing filetransfer with MXT (tipi system 1) from the BBS (tipi system2) I selected the phonebook "PHONE1" to use from DSK1. Press "I" to toggle the IAC to IAC=OFF With "A" the phonebook displays the available entries. Select "E" for the TBOX99 BBS Login to the BBS wit user # and password On the main menu press "F" for file transfer Then "D" for download Enter the file name to download e.g. EDIT40 ** The BBS shows ready for transfer ** Press FCTN 7 for display MXT menu Press "X" for xmodem filetransfer Enter Filename: DSK1.EDIT40 Chose "1" for CRC check Choose R for receive The BBS shows the number of Records, Sectors and maybe retrieves When complete the system make a beep and with ENTER You will go to the BBS main menu Thats easy! I tested Download and Upload with more than ten different files and even with the 235 sector file "SCR-ARK" and it was working without errors and without a retrieve. For tipi users the combination of the AFTER HOURS BBS system and the MXT mass transfer program is realy ideal. Now I have to look how I can disable the IAC protocol in the Terra Term program on my PC. If this is possible, anybody can access the BBS from a PC and make Downloads or Uploads. Maybe there are other Terminal programs with the xmodem protokoll and they can handle the IAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, arcadeshopper said: Sam's pages in 4k at a time in the 32k range.. http://www.unige.ch/medecine/nouspikel/ti99/superams.htm Sent from my LM-G820 using Tapatalk That would mean a whole new mapping section of code, something I am not quite ready for at this point in time. Beery Edited May 30, 2020 by BeeryMiller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 8 hours ago, wolhess said: @BeeryMiller The 8k RAM E/A cartridge is no problem for me, I have two of those. But can you also use the lower RAM in the TI? I was reading yesterday in the GenLink manual the Linker can use it with the BLOCK directive? Yes, it can. Memory is already being used in that area for various buffers. I haven't mapped it out completely to find where there are any blocks of free ram, however a bunch of it is already used. I realized last night I have at least one routine in my LIB file I may be able to comment out, and I may be able to modify the LIB workspaces to free up some more memory as well. Going to do some testing with that today. Beery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, wolhess said: Today I was testing filetransfer with MXT (tipi system 1) from the BBS (tipi system2) I selected the phonebook "PHONE1" to use from DSK1. Press "I" to toggle the IAC to IAC=OFF With "A" the phonebook displays the available entries. Select "E" for the TBOX99 BBS Login to the BBS wit user # and password On the main menu press "F" for file transfer Then "D" for download Enter the file name to download e.g. EDIT40 ** The BBS shows ready for transfer ** Press FCTN 7 for display MXT menu Press "X" for xmodem filetransfer Enter Filename: DSK1.EDIT40 Chose "1" for CRC check Choose R for receive The BBS shows the number of Records, Sectors and maybe retrieves When complete the system make a beep and with ENTER You will go to the BBS main menu Thats easy! I tested Download and Upload with more than ten different files and even with the 235 sector file "SCR-ARK" and it was working without errors and without a retrieve. For tipi users the combination of the AFTER HOURS BBS system and the MXT mass transfer program is realy ideal. Now I have to look how I can disable the IAC protocol in the Terra Term program on my PC. If this is possible, anybody can access the BBS from a PC and make Downloads or Uploads. Maybe there are other Terminal programs with the xmodem protokoll and they can handle the IAC? If you find a way to disable IAC from a non-TI Telnet client, please let me know. I already have within the BBS program where I send out one particular string to disable some telnet stuff for non-TI telnet clients. I have just never found a way to turn off IAC completely. Beery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Well, good news Wolfgang. I was able to comment out some unused code in LIB and I can fit everything you have modified into 3 x 8K program image files with about 20 bytes of free space for the German version. The English version, I have something around 180 bytes free space. Knowing you still have more to do AND the fact you have an 8K ram w/ Editor/Assembler cartridge, I am going to modify your link file to relocate the LIB code to >6000 freeing up more space for your translated text. I'm going to keep Greg's compilation and mine within the upper 24K until such point in time I outgrow the memory space. I would not further translate any code in the BBSSETUP, BBSSUBS, MESGEDITOR, MAINMENU, or BBSMESGBAS source files until after my next zip update on the code. Elsewhere, you should be fine if you update anything. I am also going to include in the next zip release a set of 64 and 80 column TEXTxx files with the filenames of T6XTxx and T8XTxx. So, from your end, if you desire, you can begin the modifications/translations of those files for 64 and 80 column width. I would hold the actual text length at 63 characters and 79 characters as each line must terminate in the C/R character. So, as I count, there are 14 TEXTxx files, and there will be another 14 T6XTxx files, and another 14 T8XTxx files in the \AFTER directory. I'm going to "take a break" right now as I need to mow the lawn and will come back and do more work this evening. Beery 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolhess Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Yes, I will edit the text files tomorrow. And I will post the files, I‘ve finished. Have a nice weekend! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 Updated code now with 40/64/80 column support. Read the README text file (Windows txt file) in the ZIP file for all the latest update information. File includes my stock 64 and 80 column AFTER\TEXT files for 40, 64, or 80 column display. Edit/change to your BBS needs. Beery AfterHours20200530.zip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 ok last zip, thekeep loads "9640 news BBS" on the screen.. and i cant connect 2020-05-30 22:34:38,001 TipiDisk : INFO LOAD image size 8192 2020-05-30 22:34:39,371 TipiService : INFO Request completed. 2020-05-30 22:34:39,592 TipiDisk : INFO Opcode 5 LOAD - TIPI.THEKEER 2020-05-30 22:34:39,592 Pab : INFO opcode: Load, fileType: Sequential, mode: Update, dataType: Display, recordType: Fixed, recordLength: 0, recordNumber: 8198 2020-05-30 22:34:39,594 TipiDisk : INFO LOAD image size 8192 2020-05-30 22:34:40,964 TipiService : INFO Request completed. 2020-05-30 22:34:41,467 TipiDisk : INFO Opcode 5 LOAD - TIPI.AFTER.CHARA1 2020-05-30 22:34:41,468 Pab : INFO opcode: Load, fileType: Relative, mode: Input, dataType: Internal, recordType: Fixed, recordLength: 255, recordNumber: 2048 2020-05-30 22:34:41,469 TipiDisk : INFO LOAD image size 8064 2020-05-30 22:34:41,827 TipiService : INFO Request completed. 2020-05-30 22:34:41,836 ClockFile : INFO clock mode:corcomp 2020-05-30 22:34:41,856 ClockFile : INFO close special? PI.CLOCK 2020-05-30 22:34:41,864 ClockFile : INFO clock mode:corcomp 2020-05-30 22:34:41,883 ClockFile : INFO close special? PI.CLOCK 2020-05-30 22:34:54,490 TiSocket : INFO bind socket(0) *:9995 2020-05-30 22:34:54,491 TiSocket : INFO bind success 2020-05-30 22:34:57,643 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:34:57,644 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:34:57,644 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:34:57,644 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:00,847 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:00,847 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:00,848 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:00,848 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:04,039 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:04,040 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:04,040 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:04,041 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:07,233 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:07,234 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:07,234 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:07,235 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:10,426 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:10,426 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:10,426 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:10,427 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:13,613 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:13,614 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:13,614 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:13,615 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:16,805 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:16,805 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:16,806 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:16,806 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:19,998 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:19,999 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:19,999 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:19,999 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:23,193 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:23,194 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:23,194 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:23,195 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:26,384 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:26,385 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:26,385 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:26,386 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:29,575 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:29,576 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:29,576 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:29,576 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:32,762 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:32,763 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:32,763 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:32,763 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:35,958 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:35,958 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:35,959 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:35,959 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:39,149 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:39,150 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:39,150 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:39,151 TiSocket : INFO no connection available 2020-05-30 22:35:42,339 TiSocket : INFO handleAccept 2020-05-30 22:35:42,339 TiSocket : INFO new connection handle: 1 2020-05-30 22:35:42,340 TiSocket : INFO accepting... 2020-05-30 22:35:42,340 TiSocket : INFO no connection available If I run AFTERHOURS I can connect..and says the same name Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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