marauder666 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Selecting item from first page is fine, but it doesnt scroll down to the second page. On a text entry screen it automatically enters "M" and returns to the top, on a ROM list, it starts a ROM. Never goes to the next page. Firmware 0.15, all working fine on the 2600. You're welcome to ask me to do some specific testing. Edited September 30, 2020 by marauder666 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Very strange behavior on your 7800. There are only a few 7800 beta user, but none of them has report such an issue with his device. @Andrew Davie is reworking the whole menu code of the PlusCart currently. Maybe we wait and see, how the next version behaves on your device. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) I've had a chance to test with a NTSC 7800 I'm modding for someone. and it works as expected. Seems just a PAL issue, also tested with a friends PAL 7800 with the same problem. Edited October 5, 2020 by marauder666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 @Al_Nafuur can we get a current dev version to @marauder666 to test? The difference being the new 13-line menu, although to be honest not much has changed in the actual internals. Except for the text-entry, of course --- I'd really like to see if that still locks up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Andrew Davie said: @Al_Nafuur can we get a current dev version to @marauder666 to test? The difference being the new 13-line menu, although to be honest not much has changed in the actual internals. Except for the text-entry, of course --- I'd really like to see if that still locks up. @marauder666 I have added your PlusCart to the draft release group. There will be an firmware update option (Version v0.15.6) when you start your PlusCart the next time. btw. do you switch the "TV Mode" in the PlusCart "Setup" menu when you switch between a PAL and a NTSC device? does the issue also occure with the PlusCart in NTSC mode on a PAL device (and vice versa)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 TV mode is set to PAL, I'll try setting to NTSC on the PAL console and see what happens later, and report back. Do you want me to update the firmware before I do the tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, marauder666 said: TV mode is set to PAL, I'll try setting to NTSC on the PAL console and see what happens later, and report back. Do you want me to update the firmware before I do the tests? best would be before and after.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 On firmware 0.15.0. Tested PAL console with TV mode set to NTSC, same result as before. I'll update firmware this afternoon, and report back with any findings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 It's the same problem after the firmware update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 A few questions. With the latest dev you have.... 1) when you view a large text file (put one in your root directory if needed to test)... a) does scrolling down when on the last line take you to the next page? b) does pressing right take you to the next page, and left to the previous page? 2) Does the version you are testing have the new keyboard? (switchable between upper/lower/symbols) 3) Do you still get auto-entry of 'M'? on keyboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Text file scrolling, and next page is the same. Shows the plusnet logo for a second, then back to the menu. Keyboard is the new one, its excellent. no auto entry of "M", but cant scroll down to properly test as there's not enough characters listed to go that far on any keyboard row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 @Al_Nafuur I'm trying to think this through. 1) The menu code is running on the '2600, and a "next page" is triggered. That's all working fine. 2) The PlusCart detects notification of "next page", and switches on the "spinner". We know the spinner is active, as noted above. Probably just 1 frame. But the point being, the PlusCart is now building the next '2600 menu-ROM. 3) '2600 spinner stops (almost immediately). How can it stop? When the PlusCart has finished the ROM-build and now new menu should be active. 4) we don't see the new menu item at all -- in fact we get... an immediate selection. So, I don't have an older version easily at hand, but my guess would be that in all cases, the item that is selected is actually the very first item on the "next page" had it been displayed correctly. In other words, is "M" the very first entry of the 2nd page of keyboard in previous roms? If so, that would be a reasonable diagnosis... So, we should be looking for something on the '7800 side... to do with joystick press. Is the '7800 joystick buffered somehow, differently to the '2600, I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 "12.2 Latched Input Ports (INPT4, INPT5) These two ports have latches that are both enabled by writing a "1" or disabled by writing a "0" to D6 of VBLANK. When disabled the microprocessor reads the logic level of the port directly. When enabled, the latch is set for logic one and remains that way until its' port goes LO. When the port goes LO the latch goes LO and remains that way regardless of what the port does. The trigger buttons of the joystick controllers connect to these ports." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Just checked, and its not running the first rom from the next page when I try to go to the next page. It's 3 pages and 11 lines away. Edited October 11, 2020 by marauder666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, marauder666 said: Just checked, and its not running the first rom from the next page when I try to go to the next page. OK, TY. Any idea which, then? Trying to find some cause/explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Andrew Davie said: OK, TY. Any idea which, then? Trying to find some cause/explanation. Its consistent, in my roms, "A-G" folder always runs Buck rogers, "H-R" midnight magic, "S-Z", Springer. Public roms/Classic roms/pal/by alphabet/A-G/ runs breakout. H-R megalomania, and S-Z spider fighter. Doesnt matter if I press down, or right to go to next page. Same rom runs. Attached folder from my roms, I'm using to test with. 1 PAL.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, marauder666 said: Its consistent, in my roms, "A-G" folder always runs Buck rogers, "H-R" midnight magic, "S-Z", Springer. So, in the above cases *always* the 47th entry (alphabetically). Interesting. 7 minutes ago, marauder666 said: Public roms/Classic roms/pal/by alphabet/A-G/ runs breakout. H-R megalomania, and S-Z spider fighter. And again, ALL of these are entry #47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 ... and in the original keyboard system, "M" was indeed entry #47 (not counting "Go Back") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Clutching at straws here... @Al_Nafuur the PAL and NTSC 6507 are slightly different clock speeds, I think...? COuld this be a marginal timing issue on the PlusCart bankswitch code...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Andrew Davie said: So, in the above cases *always* the 47th entry (alphabetically). Interesting. And again, ALL of these are entry #47 @marauder666 what happens on folders/pages with less than 47 entries, but more than one page? e.g. "Public ROMs/PlusROMs/High Score Club" with 27 entries? Edited October 11, 2020 by Al_Nafuur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 @Al_Nafuur it runs Mario Bros!!! from somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, marauder666 said: @Al_Nafuur it runs Mario Bros!!! from somewhere Mario Bros!!! is not in the High Score Club folder ? Also I can see all the other requests for megalomania, spider fighter, midnight magic and Springer in the logs, but for the High Score Club I can only see the request for the folder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder666 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) I renamed Mario bros to xmario bros in my offline roms, and it now runs klax. which is the 47th one in the folder. Renamed back and it runs Mario bros, which is the 48th entry. Repeating going to next page in the high score club folder is inconsistent, sometimes klax, sometimes Mario. 47 or 48th items. Selecting from my offline roms, its runs klax. After erasing the offline roms, I went to next page in high score club folder, and it crashed the 7800. Black screen with scrolling diagonal stripes. I powered it off, and tried again, and get a PlusCart screen with only the .. entry, and not showing the page number. .. goes back to the high score club folder. Edited October 11, 2020 by marauder666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 @Andrew Davie maybe we need for the firmware emulation the more robust address test too. In the UnoCart the firmware ROM is almost a 4K Standard without bankswitching. With the new font we have extended that to 32K with bankswitching. so we should try and change: https://gitlab.com/firmaplus/atari-2600-pluscart/-/blob/dev/source/STM32firmware/PlusCart/Src/cartridge_firmware.c#L681 to the routine mentioned here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Al_Nafuur said: @Andrew Davie maybe we need for the firmware emulation the more robust address test too. In the UnoCart the firmware ROM is almost a 4K Standard without bankswitching. With the new font we have extended that to 32K with bankswitching. so we should try and change: https://gitlab.com/firmaplus/atari-2600-pluscart/-/blob/dev/source/STM32firmware/PlusCart/Src/cartridge_firmware.c#L681 Were I implementing this myself, I would instead have a minimum time, something like.... timestart = now while ((addr = ADDR_IN) != addr_prev && (now-timestart) < MINTIME) addr_prev = addr; And that way you could vary the settling time given for an address change... thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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