glorfindeal1 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I'm looking to get ready for CD support on the JagGD. What is the best way (program) to create ISO images of my CDs. Thanks, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 After talking with Saint, it looks like you can use clonecd to create your image files. Anyone know what is the best image option? Clonecd gives a choice of audio, data, game, multimedia and protected PC game. I would assume game. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I would guess audio but Saint would be the one to know. Why not wait until he releases his conversion tool to find out. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 I asked him and he said he didn’t know. He said he has never ripped a cd before so didn’t know the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 It's either going to be audio or data. Data treats it like a normal directory like it was a hard drive. Audio treats it like it has so many minutes of sound data in track format. I don't know enough about it but a lot of games at the time could also be played in a regular cd player for audio, so maybe it's audio. Other games however such as Dragon Force (Saturn) has text files you can read etc. Looking forward to someone correcting me XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 It looks like the proper selection is data, not audio. Next question, on a lot of my game cd’s I get a couple of sector read errors. Is this normal? I can’t believe that I have that many games going bad. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, glorfindeal1 said: It looks like the proper selection is data, not audio. Next question, on a lot of my game cd’s I get a couple of sector read errors. Is this normal? I can’t believe that I have that many games going bad. Ken I think the bad sector reads are due to copy protection. Is there anyway around this or will this not cause a problem with use on the GD? Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnuth Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) I haven't had any reason to rip my Jaguar CD's (yet), but I've used ImgBurn to rip other game discs for use on ODE's (Saturn, PSX, Turbografx, Sega CD) and it works great for that plus it's pretty straight forward and easy to use. Edited February 23, 2021 by schnuth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Saint says that his conversion tool works with CloneCD image files. I’m wondering if the read errors are irrelevant. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastor Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just to be clear, they need to be in the .ccd format? As opposed to ISO, Bin/Cue, etc.? That seems to be the format what I have so far is in. I'm not converting my own yet, but do have a lifetime license for Clone CD and wanna know how when needed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hastor said: Just to be clear, they need to be in the .ccd format? As opposed to ISO, Bin/Cue, etc.? That seems to be the format what I have so far is in. I'm not converting my own yet, but do have a lifetime license for Clone CD and wanna know how when needed! Saint said that his tool supported CloneCD. He told me today on Twitter that it will convert ccd and cdi image files. CCD is CloneCD. CDI I think is Diskjuggler. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHATEIT Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 All the ones I have are in bin/cue. Would that not work for the Jag GD and if so what is the proper format? Also then would you put them into folders? For emulators on the Dreamcast and 3DO that I have the bin/cue works for those. I don't have a GD yet but I'd like to be ready for it when I do get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Thanks for this Thread - I installed CloneCD and began to create "Data CD" backups. Just so Im doing this right, some of the discs are 200k+ but many are <16k. Battlemorph is a good example where it was 1 session and 9500KB. That doesnt look right to me? Hover Strike CD is 235K for comparison. Am I missing something or are these correct? Vidgrid is 2700KB and Blue Lightening 37000KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I think those ranges are correct and fits with the period. Some amiga CD32 games are just floppy disk or early cart games on a CD bundled together so the total MB is ridiculously low for a CD. I think the smallest one I have is less than 4MB on a 350 MB disk. It seems wasteful but its just the way they were developed and released for whatever was on the market at the time. It was probably still cheaper to release on CD than a small ROM chip on a cart while supporting the library of the CD add on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlynxalot Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 10:25 AM, Goochman said: Thanks for this Thread - I installed CloneCD and began to create "Data CD" backups. Just so Im doing this right, some of the discs are 200k+ but many are <16k. Battlemorph is a good example where it was 1 session and 9500KB. That doesnt look right to me? Hover Strike CD is 235K for comparison. Am I missing something or are these correct? Vidgrid is 2700KB and Blue Lightening 37000KB It sounds like you might not be ripping the CDDA audio tracks when you're ripping these. I could imagine the small file sizes correspond to the actual game data, and for instance, Blue Lightening and Battlemorph are larger because they have some fmv in them. Battlemorph has a ton of CDDA though, so your iso or bin/cue or whatever should really be several hundred MB. I haven't used clone CD, but with disc juggler when I used it several years ago, I think you basically pressed one button for the option to make a CDI out of a disc in your disc drive, and then let it do its own thing - and this ripped all the data and CDDA and put it into a CDI file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHATEIT Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 What format does the Jag GD read for the CD games? Mine are all in ISO or bin/cue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ls650 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 No offence, but aren't folks jumping the gun a little bit? I'm waiting for there to be an official announcement from SainT that includes details as to file formats, etc. What's the point of putting in a lot of effort ripping CDs if you guess wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, ls650 said: No offence, but aren't folks jumping the gun a little bit? I'm waiting for there to be an official announcement from SainT that includes details as to file formats, etc. What's the point of putting in a lot of effort ripping CDs if you guess wrong? Hey, it gives us something to do . Saint did say his conversion tool supports clonecd so in case I got it right, I now have 20 CD games converted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, UHATEIT said: What format does the Jag GD read for the CD games? Mine are all in ISO or bin/cue The JagGD supports a custom format. Saint will provide a tool to convert the image file to that format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 22 hours ago, glorfindeal1 said: Hey, it gives us something to do . Saint did say his conversion tool supports clonecd so in case I got it right, I now have 20 CD games converted Do your numbers match what I was getting with CloneCD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Goochman said: Do your numbers match what I was getting with CloneCD? These are what I got: Battlemorph - 615.5 MB Hover Strike - 415 MB Vid Grid - 732.4 MB Blue Lightning - 546.1 MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, glorfindeal1 said: These are what I got: Battlemorph - 615.5 MB Hover Strike - 415 MB Vid Grid - 732.4 MB Blue Lightning - 546.1 MB Mine are different - you just choose DataCD for CloneCD correct? Any other settings? Battlemorph - 387kb Blue Lightening - 1523 kb Vid Grid - 2692 kb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorfindeal1 Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 Just now, Goochman said: Mine are different - you just choose DataCD for CloneCD correct? Any other settings? Battlemorph - 387kb Blue Lightening - 1523 kb Vid Grid - 2692 kb I’m using Clone CD and I picked they Data option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Not sure whats different but today CloneCD is producing backups that appear to be of the right size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHof Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Looking forward to trying out this conversion tool. Looks like the Gamedrive is allmost ready for CD based games, going by some youtube videos iv watched. ;*) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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