SteveTheColecoDude Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, MrBeefy said: Speaking of... DJC and friends' coverage of the Amico these days is just totally beyond the point where it can be seen as funny. Last week they were literally making stuff up when covering Phil's email to try and make it sound good. They will say absolutely anything, no matter how clearly false it is, just to attempt to defend Intellivision. It's even too much to be embarrassing, it's just insanity. Edited September 9, 2022 by SteveTheColecoDude 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 hours ago, digdugnate said: Looks like the 'official' Amico sub is under new management. There’s a full list of all the usernames who were formerly shadowbanned. That’s more like it. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayik Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: There’s a full list of all the usernames who were formerly shadowbanned. That’s more like it. Wow! 89 folks shadow banned! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Thunder Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: There’s a full list of all the usernames who were formerly shadowbanned. That’s more like it. lolol paprium_fiasco! Dont' know the user, that's just hilarious in reference to this. I mean, at least a few people actually got that game eventually, riiite? Too much fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, SteveTheColecoDude said: DJC and friends' coverage of the Amico these days is just totally beyond the point where it can be seen as funny. Last week they were literally making stuff up when covering Phil's email to try and make it sound good. They will say absolutely anything, no matter how clearly false it is, just to attempt to defend Intellivision. It's even too much to be embarrassing, it's just insanity. I don't watch them because I know they will either have a bad take or just push the company lies. Like that video pointed out DJC has a stake in the company to do well. The fact that he doesn't say that at the opening of every Amico video goes against FTC I believe. He's just lucky in the grand scheme of things he's a nobody pushing a flop console that basically nobody knows about. 1 hour ago, Flojomojo said: There’s a full list of all the usernames who were formerly shadowbanned. That’s more like it. Man if they spent that much time on their console they would have released 2 years ago. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzie.P Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 On 9/7/2022 at 7:03 PM, MrBeefy said: I was attacked, called thermonuclear butthurt That'd make an awesome band name On 9/7/2022 at 7:03 PM, MrBeefy said: had members go after my work How did something like that go down? Like, members find out where you work (which is odd) and call them up to say something like "that piece of crap, Beefy doesn't like Amico. Figured you might wanna fire him?" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMR Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 21 hours ago, Wayler said: I'm sorry you had to go through that, I can't imagine how I would have handled it. But to be clear, I'm not criticizing how things went before and how some individuals were mistreated. That was only one part of this bizarre, confounding and most of all, entertaining mess. I'm talking about how things are handled now. This is not about one mod making a booboo and aww chucks, it was just one part forum but look here we got other funtime places to enjoy. The Amico is a multimillion dollar scam. Atari Age was a huge platform for that scam. Atari Age now tries to hide all involvement in said scam. You can't heal cancer by hiding. It needs to be looked at, examined and then treated for not to effect the whole. The situation now though: I don't think it was a scam, but a failure. I know people haven't been getting their refunds, but that's probably because the money from investors has dried up. Intellivision has no cash flow outside of a few digital game releases, and the company is probably being propped up by investors who just want to get the company to a point where they can sell it off. Just hope they don't go bankrupt. No one is getting a refund then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayler Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, CMR said: I don't think it was a scam, but a failure. I know people haven't been getting their refunds, but that's probably because the money from investors has dried up. Intellivision has no cash flow outside of a few digital game releases, and the company is probably being propped up by investors who just want to get the company to a point where they can sell it off. Just hope they don't go bankrupt. No one is getting a refund then. If looked solely at the Amico with no other reference points and giving someone the benefit of the doubt, then yeah, I can understand why one would be reluctant to call it an outright scam. But I don't think you should look at the Amico that way. There's a mountain of evidence of how Tommy's life and achievements have been categorically proven false or at least grossly misinterpreted. From photoshopped t-shirts, fake lamborghinis, bought out Guinness records and falsified composer credits to actual federal fraud. And Nick Richards and Hans Ippich have their share of other shady dealings in the past. Now that the "official" Amico reddit is in good hands, you can read all about the wacky shenanigans these rascals have been up to, if you haven't gotten around yet. Now, is it a failed or a successful scam, that is another question. If there are no legal repercussions in the end, I'd be inclined to call it a slight success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Razzie.P said: That'd make an awesome band name How did something like that go down? Like, members find out where you work (which is odd) and call them up to say something like "that piece of crap, Beefy doesn't like Amico. Figured you might wanna fire him?" Ha I agree on the band name. It is really a TLDR on how pathetic the whole Amico thing turned out. Spoiler Nevermind 1 hour ago, CMR said: I don't think it was a scam, but a failure. I know people haven't been getting their refunds, but that's probably because the money from investors has dried up. Intellivision has no cash flow outside of a few digital game releases, and the company is probably being propped up by investors who just want to get the company to a point where they can sell it off. Just hope they don't go bankrupt. No one is getting a refund then. I think guaranteeing a fully 100% refund at anytime and running out of money is enough to make it a scam. If they really meant that, all preorder money would have been protected and not touched for other areas. On a more funny note... I hope Dorkalicious go for the hat trick and does another midnight release video this year. The Amico is really starting to remind me of the Knight Rider 2600 project with all the hard work going into it. Edited September 9, 2022 by MrBeefy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 There's no reason why it can't be both a failure and a scam. On the one hand they consistently oversold how far from completion the project was, the state of their finances, how much retail demand they had, and that's a scam. On the other, they seem to have spent four years and spaffed seventeen million bucks against the wall to come up with practically nothing of value. That's a failure, all right. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Let's call it a failam, then, or a scailure. 🧐 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzie.P Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 10 hours ago, CMR said: I don't think it was a scam, but a failure. I know people haven't been getting their refunds, but that's probably because the money from investors has dried up. I feel they crossed pretty clearly into “scam” territory at some point, when they started deliberately misrepresenting their progress to reel in more $$$ from the masses without properly disclosing vital info. And that's not even factoring in the refund fiasco. I haven’t (and don’t) follow this obsessively, so I’m sure many others signs emerged way back when -- but an example where I felt a little nauseous at seeing this was the “unboxing” video that was presented as “look how close to the finish line we truly are!” with no indication whatsoever that it was just a beat up, hand assembled mock –up type of thing. I personally know more than 1 person who saw that and thought “there’s a new console about to launch. They’re already completed and doing unboxings!” Which would go a long way help ease the worries of any potential investor since the truth about it wasn’t mentioned in any way It was deliberately dishonest. It was unethical. And based on how other scams were treated over similar behavior (like our good ol’ Fyre Festival) really seems like It was illegal. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famicommander Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 They took money while knowingly advancing provably false claims. That's the definition of a scam. That they, at some point, probably actually intended to and maybe believed they could make a console doesn't change that. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, famicommander said: They took money while knowingly advancing provably false claims. That's the definition of a scam. That they, at some point, probably actually intended to and maybe believed they could make a console doesn't change that. Good post. I agree - the first part: "They took money while knowingly advancing provably false claims" = scam. The second part: "they, at some point, probably actually intended to and maybe believed they could make a console" = hubris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Lost Monkey said: Good post. I agree - the first part: "They took money while knowingly advancing provably false claims" = scam. The second part: "they, at some point, probably actually intended to and maybe believed they could make a console" = hubris. These are good points. You can easily point to the day they took anyone's money as at least the starting point of the scam. The console was not ready and they totally needed that money to help float the company. So end of 2019 to early 2020 it was completely a scam. All throughout 2020 they kept lying about the possibility of it coming out. If you were watching closely you could see any progress come to a halt at the end of 2019. They lost their investor and needed to crowdfund. The fact that we are almost two years since the initial launch and they just now created the first manufacturing unit shows it was all smoke to get more money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980gamer Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 So no new news... Maybe next week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 6 hours ago, 1980gamer said: So no new news... Maybe next week? Weeks, not months 🤡 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Poor Phil, he probably thought that people would leave him alone for a few months after the latest update. 😔 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, roots.genoa said: Poor Phil, he probably thought that people would leave him alone for a few months after the latest update. 😔 Which is really par for the course showing how inept he is, lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower70 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 15 hours ago, 1980gamer said: So no new news... Maybe next week? Check back on Tuesday, Phil likes all his news to be post-CU Podcast. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayik Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 What are we waiting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseystyle Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, rayik said: What are we waiting for? Well I’m still hoping that someone will provide refunds to the mentally challenged individuals who were taken advantage of. I’m also waiting for my beard oil to be delivered, but I’m not sure that’s what you meant. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I'm waiting for the night to fallI know that it will save us allWhen everything's dark, keeps us from the starkReality 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseystyle Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/8/2022 at 11:58 PM, MrBeefy said: Ha I agree on the band name. It is really a TLDR on how pathetic the whole Amico thing turned out. Reveal hidden contents Nevermind I think guaranteeing a fully 100% refund at anytime and running out of money is enough to make it a scam. If they really meant that, all preorder money would have been protected and not touched for other areas. On a more funny note... I hope Dorkalicious go for the hat trick and does another midnight release video this year. The Amico is really starting to remind me of the Knight Rider 2600 project with all the hard work going into it. Aw man- why the heat on the hard work team? They never stole money, and Hardwork was always polite, even if he never listened to anyone. He was naive, not an asshole. That thread will never not be funny, whereas the TT thread is, at times, rage inducing. Between the two I’d trust Hardwork with my money over TT. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, jerseystyle said: Aw man- why the heat on the hard work team? They never stole money, and Hardwork was always polite, even if he never listened to anyone. He was naive, not an asshole. That thread will never not be funny, whereas the TT thread is, at times, rage inducing. Between the two I’d trust Hardwork with my money over TT. True. Tommy was naive on a grander scale. Maybe it could be revisited on April 1st of every year? That would be fitting. April 1st, Amico Fools Day. So anyone want to take bets on if the Neo Breakout is what was going to be Amico Breakout? https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-74842785/pre-orders/ps4-atari-50-the-anniversary-collection-pre-order/#description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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