tremoloman2006 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Looks like a new 2600 console is upon us: "Enjoy your favorite Atari 2600 and 7800 games on one system. Not only does the Atari 2600+ pull double cartridge duty, it also features HDMI and widescreen mode for easy connectivity to modern TVs. Jump right in with the included CX40+ Joystick and a 10-in-1 game cartridge that features some of Atari’s most famous games like Adventure®, Missile Command®, and Yars' Revenge®." https://atari.com/products/atari-2600-plus 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillDMatt Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 The only thing holding me back from pre ordering it is whether or not this can play homebrews. it was that very reason, and also paddle support, that held me back from buying the Retron 77. I think the price is pretty aggressive, it's exactly what I've wanted the 2600 that can also play 7800. I do have modded 2600 hooked through a retroTink but it's always in the back of my mind that this is a 40+ year old device and you don't know when it'll quit on you. If this can play the homebrews then Take my money PLEASE!!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eebuckeye Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Want to know if emulator or FPGA. Must be an emulator for the price. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 The 7800 part is the most intersting to me - wonder if it supports all kinds of joysticks like the 2 button 7800 pads. $130 I think is a good price point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afgorkon0109 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Curious—will the difficulty settings be incorporated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Anyone know if the PlusCart(+) works with it? Or the Harmony Encore cart? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasterScan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I wonder if it supports external cartridge audio. 🤔 i think $129 is a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I went ahead and ordered one! The question is... will some of the cooler features of the 7800 carts work? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Kaboomer Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 There are also a bunch of new HW in their Shop. New Paddles. Berzerk (Enhanced) and standard Run and Jump. Very interesting! https://atari.com/collections/atari-2600-plus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, chad5200 said: Anyone know if the PlusCart(+) works with it? Or the Harmony Encore cart? I'll find out, I have several flash carts, and Dragon one for my 7800. Pretty sure I have a Harmony Encore as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-S Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 From the website: Featuring a Rockchip 3128 SOC microprocessor with 256MB DDR3 RAM and 256MB eMMC fixed internal storage. Wired CX40+ Joystick with serial port connector. It's a TV Box chip, so it's emulation, also:This product is only available for shipping in the United States. 😥 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+kheller2 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Quote Featuring a Rockchip 3128 SOC microprocessor with 256MB DDR3 RAM and 256MB eMMC fixed internal storage. Wired CX40+ Joystick with serial port connector. Compatible with most 2600 and 7800 cartridges. View Compatibility List. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Take note... not all games work with it: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0609/3658/5381/files/Atari-2600Plus-Compatibility.pdf Makes me wonder about all the homebrews... especially the Champ Games. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-S Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, chad5200 said: Anyone know if the PlusCart(+) works with it? Or the Harmony Encore cart? They don't work unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillDMatt Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, chad5200 said: Take note... not all games work with it: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0609/3658/5381/files/Atari-2600Plus-Compatibility.pdf Makes me wonder about all the homebrews... especially the Champ Games. This right here, I've got a little bit of money invested in my homebrews especially Champ Games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledown Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) I assume its just a ROM dumper like the Retron 77 (or similar)...so multi-carts, and fancy homebrews probably won't work. Also their CX-40+ joystick only has 1 button, but the compatibility guide shows a few 7800 2-button games "PASS"...so does that mean you can use 2 button 7800 controllers with it...will they make 2 button controllers for it...or does the game "load", but you can't really play it because the ports don't have 2-button support? Time will tell. One thing I find funny too...from the webpage: "Now you can enjoy both Atari 2600 and 7800 game cartridges on one system. Click. Thud. Smile." This was already possible with the 7800. Edited August 22, 2023 by doubledown 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, doubledown said: I assume its just a ROM dumper like the Retron 77 (or similar)...so multi-carts, and fancy homebrews probably won't work. Yes, looks like that. I think they cheated with the list, since most U games are >4K and do not use Atari's standard bankswitching, e.g.: Polaris, Miner 2049er,... (3F) Montezuma's Revenge, 2 x Star-Wars (E0) The Power of He-Man, Burgertime (E7) From outside, the dumper seems more or less identical with the R77. I hope they got at least the pins right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Salamon Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 As soon as I can order one in Canada, I will definitely order one of everything. Not because I need a new system but this will give me an HDMI 2600 that allows me to play 7800 and also gives me new paddles to use! (Sure beats having to open up and cleaning old jitter paddles) I hope to see this stuff on shelves in Canada and other countries. This is more of what an Atari Flashback should have been in my eyes. Not 100% compatible is fine with me. I have my old faithful 2600 for those and the homebrews but this one can be on display and hooked up all the time. Man, I'm excited for this. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSamyon Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just got this email and was excited that Atari was making this console. As others have already said, I have a sizeable homebrew collection so not being able to play those games is most likely a deal breaker for me. Still, it's amazing to have this option and if it could be modified like the retron 77 maybe there is hope for future compatibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, chad5200 said: Take note... not all games work with it: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0609/3658/5381/files/Atari-2600Plus-Compatibility.pdf Makes me wonder about all the homebrews... especially the Champ Games. Since the cart port is effectively a ROM dumper, no carts including an ARM (Harmony, PlusCart, Champ Games...) chip will ever work. These carts cannot be dumped. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bent_pin Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Much rather have full compatibility. Remember in DS9 where the doctor kept replacing parts of Vedic Bareil's brain? He just wasn't the same. Just seems like they did this one wrong. The hdmi is nice, but that's achievable with a mod and an adapter, whilst maintaining full compatibility. For my money, I'd rather buy 4 more homebrews from Albert. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 BTW: I wonder which emulator they are using. If it is a modified Stella (like in R77), they are obliged to release the modified source code. Else they are violating Stella's license. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bent_pin Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, Thomas Jentzsch said: BTW: I wonder which emulator they are using. If it is a modified Stella (like in R77), they are obliged to release the modified source code. Else they are violating Stella's license. Hmm That would be some pretty serious exposure on their part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSamyon Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Since the cart port is effectively a ROM dumper, no carts including an ARM (Harmony, PlusCart, Champ Games...) chip will ever work. These carts cannot be dumped. Well that's a bummer but not unexpected I suppose. The homebrew scene is what has kept me engaged with the Atari 2600 so if anyone from Atari is reading this and can work some magic, we would be very grateful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, SuperSamyon said: Well that's a bummer but not unexpected I suppose. The homebrew scene is what has kept me engaged with the Atari 2600 so if anyone from Atari is reading this and can work some magic, we would be very grateful. No magic will fix that, sorry. And since there is not even a SD cart option like the R77 has, there are even more limitations. At the moment this looks like the inferior, little brother of the R77. Even the chip is not better (and from 2014): https://gadgetversus.com/processor/allwinner-h3-vs-rockchip-rk3128/ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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