TrogdarRobusto Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: Sir, this is AtariAge, not https://www.amigalove.com/ hah. I looked through the forum and there is no dedicated amiga thread, but it has been referenced quite a lot in this thread. 25 posts so far. Edited September 12, 2023 by TrogdarRobusto 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TrogdarRobusto said: so, what is the state of the Amiga platform in the opinion of this group? Hardware? Software? What is the appetite for Amiga content? The Amiga licensing market is a MESS... Just ask Cloanto/Hyperion (but not in the same room)... I love the Amiga (have my 1200 right here and my 500 a few feet behind me)... And I think there is some market for the Amiga... But, with the Amiga mini and Cloanto's AmigaForever... I'm not sure how much of a market there really is... (I didn't buy the mini, but I'm not a fan of most mini consoles in general.) That said, I've always told my friends that if there is a billion dollar lottery winner who doesn't come forward, and then you hear about someone buying all the Amiga companies and unifying them, it's probably me... As for the forum: https://forums.atariage.com/forum/173-commodore-amiga/ But if you are serious and want even more curmudgeon hate then you'll get here, EAB (English Amiga Board) is the Amiga forum.. IMHO.. Edited September 12, 2023 by desiv 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, JPF997 said: So where does that leave young Atari fans like me , the Atari that I grew up with is the modern Atari SA, the Atari games I have nostalgia for are games like roller coaster tycoon 3, Superman shadow of the apokolips, Enter the Matrix, alone in the dark 2008, demolition racer, v rally, test drive, dragon ball Budokai and Tenkaichi, Driver 3 etc. What I'm just supposed to take it in the chin and go with the narrative that modern Atari is not legitimate, I can tell you right now I have no intention of doing so, Atari SA is the real Atari for me. (also sorry I responded to the wrong person) You're talking about Infogrames. There's a song for that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522bVV-82qQ 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, TrogdarRobusto said: hah. I looked through the forum and there is no dedicated amiga thread, but it has been referenced quite a lot in this thread. Look in "Classic Computing" for some discussion. I don't think it overlaps much with classic Atari but some European members might feel differently. Is Atari going to buy up Amiga IP too? That wouldn't be such a bad thing from where I sit, but you'd have to pry it out of Cloanto. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdarRobusto Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: You're talking about Infogrames. There's a song for that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522bVV-82qQ O M G ... I had no idea. I was listening to Liz Phair on vinyl and this at the same time, that hurt. Edited September 12, 2023 by TrogdarRobusto 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+littaum Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, TrogdarRobusto said: so, what is the state of the Amiga platform in the opinion of this group? Hardware? Software? What is the appetite for Amiga content? I'm pretty sure some people would say "We've got Amiga at home." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+littaum Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) . Edited September 12, 2023 by littaum M-m-m-multi post! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+littaum Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) . Edited September 12, 2023 by littaum M-m-m-multi post! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdarRobusto Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: Look in "Classic Computing" for some discussion. I don't think it overlaps much with classic Atari but some European members might feel differently. Is Atari going to buy up Amiga IP too? That wouldn't be such a bad thing from where I sit, but you'd have to pry it out of Cloanto. It is not about buying, it is more about already owning a lot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdarRobusto Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, littaum said: I'm pretty sure some people would say "We've got Amiga at home." Well certainly ... first things first! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, TrogdarRobusto said: It is not about buying, it is more about already owning a lot. Great, but hope you have good lawyers... (Yep, this isn't threats, but lots and recent lawsuits...) And based on that latest lawsuit, it's possibly more Hyperion you should talk to: https://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8890 Tho I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure what Hyperion winning over Cloanto actually means... Just that it's a mess and they are litigious.. ;-( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: Look in "Classic Computing" for some discussion. I don't think it overlaps much with classic Atari but some European members might feel differently. Is Atari going to buy up Amiga IP too? That wouldn't be such a bad thing from where I sit, but you'd have to pry it out of Cloanto. What would be interesting is some sort of partnership with the apollo-core.com group. Get that hardware built into a new Atari ST compatible system... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, TrogdarRobusto said: so, what is the state of the Amiga platform in the opinion of this group? Hardware? Software? What is the appetite for Amiga content? Considering the mess that is the Amiga platform right now, that's probably a door that's better left closed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, desiv said: Great, but hope you have good lawyers... (Yep, this isn't threats, but lots and recent lawsuits...) And based on that latest lawsuit, it's possibly more Hyperion you should talk to: https://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8890 Tho I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure what Hyperion winning over Cloanto actually means... Just that it's a mess and they are litigious.. ;-( Hyperion at least has been trying to advance the Amiga with OS4. Cloanto just keeps regurgitating old stuff. Cloanto is like the AtGames of the Amiga realm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, leech said: Hyperion at least has been trying to advance the Amiga with OS4. Cloanto just keeps regurgitating old stuff. Cloanto is like the AtGames of the Amiga realm... Yeah, I have Amiga OS 3.2 from Hyperion for my A1200... That said I also use AmigaForever from time to time... (Yes, I also use WinUAE...) I just wish they could get along... They both could have a place and work together... As a fan of retro, I don't see a problem with regurgitating old stuff... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I used to be an exclusive Amiga user from 1992-2001. As much as I liked the machine and its software (both games and productivity), today I can not help but to put a big equals sign between the words "Amiga" and "dumpster fire". 😕 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Bakasama said: You can say the same thing for SNK. It was bought out by a pancinko company. Then the former president of SNK formed a new company named Playmore which then bought all SNK assets and then renamed the company SNK Playmore. This company then got renamed SNK. Then the company got bought by some Chinese investors and is now owned by a Saudi prince. This seems kinda rad, I mean its probably not for the fans but man, what a story haha 2 hours ago, Albert said: Yeah, that was a golden time in Pinball, so many amazing games were created during that time. I have a Star Trek: Next Generation machine from Williams. Also a Black Knight 2000 from Williams, but that was much earlier. ..Al BK2K is hands down my favorite pinball. Out of the 100s I've owned, that and super mario are the two I regret selling the most (maybe Frankenstein by sega should be in there too) 1 hour ago, TrogdarRobusto said: so, what is the state of the Amiga platform in the opinion of this group? Hardware? Software? What is the appetite for Amiga content? Amiga was my first computer. Its strange, I should be more nostalgic for it but I'm not really that nostalgic for it lol. Id probably buy something new related to it though if it made sense and didn't cost much... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Crazy Climber said: Amiga was my first computer. Its strange, I should be more nostalgic for it but I'm not really that nostalgic for it lol. Id probably buy something new related to it though if it made sense and didn't cost much... Mine was the MegaSTe, but I enjoy using the Amigas more... likely because I stopped using the ST around the time MiNT was really taking off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Sauron said: Yeah same here. Although I don't know if I really count as a "long-time member"...does more than 20 years on this site count? I think I am only at 19 years, at least being registered. I was a lurker for a while first. I guess I am practically a newbie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Flojomojo said: You're talking about Infogrames. There's a song for that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522bVV-82qQ First thing's first , love that song unironically, second Infogrames has been Atari since 2003, at this point Infogrames has been Atari for longer than it ever was Infogrames, most people that work there today have no connection to that past , for them the company they work for is Atari and always will be and that's what matters most ( also let's not forget how the original Atari was actually another company before it took that name, Syzygy, same thing with Atari corporation, it was Tramel Technology before it became Atari Corp, when you think deeply about it Atari SA really just did the same thing previous iterations of the company did as well, they're just following tradition). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, carlsson said: Maybe most people realize they shouldn't mess with Nintendo properties, or remain as anonymous as possible if they do Right now on Amazon you can buy pirated Nintendo games hundreds of times over. Nintendo doesn’t even try to take most stuff down. When they do try to take something down it’s usually because it’s getting in the way of their own releases (e.g. AM2R and Samus Returns). Now, the Pokémon Company… they’re bloodthirsty. Sega would mess with the Sonic community more, except… they’re frickin’ crazy and nobody wants to mess with Sonic fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, TrogdarRobusto said: so, what is the state of the Amiga platform in the opinion of this group? Hardware? Software? What is the appetite for Amiga content? My only direct exposure to Amiga was the Team 17 Evercade cart, and that’s pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIO2 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, carlsson said: (*) With that said, I am NOT comparing Sega to a chimpanzee. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, TrogdarRobusto said: so, what is the state of the Amiga platform in the opinion of this group? Hardware? Software? What is the appetite for Amiga content? From my perspective, it's not on my radar. Never owned one growing up, having been an Atari kid. However, I have had a couple as an adult. Good systems, and I can appreciate them for what they are now much better than I ever did as an adolescent ST user. They're also one of the things I had to let go of when I realised that my collecting habits were well and truly out of hand. Three storage units (mostly filled with arcade games) and an apartment full of computer and video game stuff was where the line in the sand was drawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari030 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Flojomojo said: You're talking about Infogrames. There's a song for that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522bVV-82qQ If that was recorded with an ST I would laugh my rear off. Way I see it, Atari have made promises, lets see if they keep them. No sense getting riled up like a bunch of Karens over what if's, why for's and maybes. Deals done and the ship has left the dock. From my point of view, Amiga isn't a concern, never will be. Atari is. While we are on it, make a VCS 2 in a Mega or ST case running Hatari and Steem. Bliss. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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