Albert Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 First, we will have five Atari 2600+ consoles setup at the AtariAge booth for everyone to try out! We'll have a variety of games running on these systems, including one dedicated to homebrew games, one dedicated to paddle games, one for a variety of classic games from "back in the day", and two systems showing off new Atari releases (such as Berzerk Enhanced). Second, we invite people to test your Atari 2600 and 7800 cartridges on our Atari 2600+ consoles and help Atari improve the compatibility of the 2600+! If you have a game or games that haven't yet been tested on the 2600+, you can test them and report to us the results of your testing. This includes original games Atari and third-parties, as well as homebrew games. We want to record these results, so please find someone from AtariAge or Atari to witness you testing your games or games. If a game fails, we will want to test it on an 2600 or 7800 console to verify that the game does work. Thanks in advance for everyone's help! ..Al 16 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 That is cool and a nice way to involve the community. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard76 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Sounds pretty cool honestly! Do ya think anyone will bring a harmony cart to test on the 2600+? i figured it'd be easier to get one of those rather than collect actual physical old school carts. anyway, hope everyone has a fun time over at PRGE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+littaum Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I can bring a Concerto, Harmony Encore and PlusCart to PRGE, but from what I understand about the 2600+ it may have trouble reading them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling1989 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 1:20 PM, Albert said: First, we will have five Atari 2600+ consoles setup at the AtariAge booth for everyone to try out! We'll have a variety of games running on these systems, including one dedicated to homebrew games, one dedicated to paddle games, one for a variety of classic games from "back in the day", and two systems showing off new Atari releases (such as Berzerk Enhanced). Second, we invite people to test your Atari 2600 and 7800 cartridges on our Atari 2600+ consoles and help Atari improve the compatibility of the 2600+! If you have a game or games that haven't yet been tested on the 2600+, you can test them and report to us the results of your testing. This includes original games Atari and third-parties, as well as homebrew games. We want to record these results, so please find someone from AtariAge or Atari to witness you testing your games or games. If a game fails, we will want to test it on an 2600 or 7800 console to verify that the game does work. Thanks in advance for everyone's help! ..Al Please post lots of pictures Al. Those of us far from the Expo would like to see the setup. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, sterling1989 said: Please post lots of pictures Al. Those of us far from the Expo would like to see the setup. I will! ..Al 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2184 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Are you folks looking for anything specific? Or just anything off the chart showing untested? I know I'm not the only one, but I'll be at PRGE all weekend. Happy to contribute 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 It would be nice to know the status of 7800 games available in the AA shop. Which are confirmed to work on the 2600+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, karri said: It would be nice to know the status of 7800 games available in the AA shop. Which are confirmed to work on the 2600+? I think a reasonable number of homebrews especially the older titles may work but many of the new ones are using pokey @450 or even @800 which will/may not be supported by the announced emulator. Fingers crossed though! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, karri said: It would be nice to know the status of 7800 games available in the AA shop. Which are confirmed to work on the 2600+? 2 hours ago, mksmith said: I think a reasonable number of homebrews especially the older titles may work but many of the new ones are using pokey @450 or even @800 which will/may not be supported by the announced emulator. Fingers crossed though! The Atari 2600+ uses ProSystem 1.3e emulator for 7800 games. @Trebor tested 110 games for 7800 under ProSystem 1.3e Core via RetroArch. Most are 7800 Homebrews games, including some on sale in the AA store. Test Results: - 20 games = Black screen - 6 games = No audio / No music / No sound (POKEY or TIA) - 36 games = Works with issue: graphic issue graphic corruption speed / timing issue enemies absent player will not move sound issue POKEY notes incorrect - 1 game = Needs light gun support (Sentinel) - 49 games = Works without issue. Spoiler Test Results under ProSystem 1.3e Core via RetroArch: 7ix = Works without issue 1942 = Black screen 2048 = Graphic issue throughout A.R.T.I. = Black screen A Roach in Space - Part 2 = Works without issue Ah Zombies = Graphic issue throughout Alpha Race = Works without issue Apple Snaffle = Some graphic corruption after screen scrolls Arkanoid = Black screen Armor Attack II = Works without issue Asteroids Deluxe = Speed/Timing Issue present Astro Blaster = Works without issue Astro Fighter = Works without issue Attack of the Petscii Robots = Black screen Baby Pac-Man = Graphic issue pinball screen Beef Drop = POKEY sound not present, enemies absent, player will not move Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest = No POKEY music or TIA sound effects present Bernie and the Cubic Conundrum = Graphic issue throughout Bernie and the Tower of Doom = Black screen BlocDrop = Works without issue Block'em Sock'em = Black screen BonQ = Works without issue Cannon in D - D for Defense = Work without issue Cartesian Chaos = Graphic issue throughout Crazy Brix = Brix display incorrectly Crazy Otto = Works without issue Danger Zone = Graphic issue throughout Death Merchant = Graphic issue throughout Donkey Kong PK = No audio DopeWars = Graphic issue throughout Dragon's Cache = Works without issue Dragon's Descent = Works without issue Dragon's Havoc = Graphic issue throughout Drelbs = Works without issue Drone Patrol = Black Screen Drunk Witch = Works without issue Dungeon Stalker = Works with issue E.X.O. = Black screen FailSafe = Works without issue FlappyBird = Works without issue Freeway = Graphic issue throughout Frenzy (w-Berzerk) = Works without issue Froggie = Some POKEY notes incorrect Frogus = Black screen Galaxian = Plays without issue Game of the Bear - Polar Opposites = Works without issue Get Lost = Works without issue Ghosts'n Goblins = Graphic issue throughout Graze Suit Alpha = Works without issue Harpy's Curse = Black screen Harry's Hen House = Works without issue Heartlight = Works without issue I.C.B.M. = Graphic issue throughout Jacks or Better = Graphic issue throughout Jr Pac-Man = Works without issue K.C. Munchkin = Works without issue Keystone Koppers = Black screen Klax = Black screen Knight Guy - Quest for Something = Works without issue Knight Guy in Low Res World - Castle Days = Works without issue Knight Guy on Board - 30 Squares of Fate = Works without issue Legend of Silverpeak = Black screen Lunar Patrol = Graphic corruption throughout Meteor Shower = Works without issue Millie & Molly = Black screen Missing In Action = Graphic issue throughout Moon Cresta = Works without issue Ms. Pac-Man Twin = Works without issue Ninjish Guy - Perilous Island = Works without issue Oozy the Goo - Gaiden = Works without issue Pac-Man - Energy Drink Edition = Graphic issue with sprite bottom of maze Pac-Man Collection - 40th Anniversary Edition = Black screen Pac-Man Collection - 40th Anniversary Edition (Short Mazes) = Black screen PentaGo = No POKEY sound and graphic issue throughout Pirate Cove = Works without issue Plink = Graphic issue throughout Plumb Luck DX = Works without issue Plutos = Graphic issue throughout Poetiru = Works without issue Pong = Graphic issue throughout Popeye = No POKEY sound and graphic issue throughout RatTrap = No POKEY sound and graphic issue throughout Rescue On Fractalus = Black screen after starting game ReZolve = Works without issue Rikki and Vikki (No Music) = Works without issue Rip-Off = Works without issue Robbo = No sound Robots Rumble = Black screen Santa Simon = Works without issue Scramble = Sound issue Sentinel = Needs light gun support Serpentine = Black screen Sick Pickles = Works without issue Sirius = Works without issue Slide Boy in Maze Land = Works without issue Space Duel = Speed/Timing Issue Space Invaders = Works without issue Space Peril! = Graphic issue throughout Space Race = Graphic issue throughout Spire of the Ancients = Graphic issue throughout Super Circus AtariAge = Works without issue Super Pac-Man = Works without issue T:ME Salvo = Works without issue Touchdown Challenge = Graphic issue throughout Tunnels of Hyperion = Works without issue UniWarS = Works without issue Wasp! = Works without issue Wizard's Dungeon = No background sound and graphic issue throughout Wordle = Graphic corruption - letter selection area Worm! = Works without issue Best we can hope for is Atari integrating the updates readily available via JS7800 posted sources, which several from the community have assisted with updating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSamyon Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) I know everyone has their personal list of games they want tested but here is mine. Homebrew 2600 Medieval Mayhem Circus Convoy Space Rocks Robot War (pretty sure this one won't work) Juno First Ruby Q And my personal favorite game: Jr. PACMAN. Thanks for testing! Edited October 10, 2023 by SuperSamyon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, SuperSamyon said: I know everyone has their personal list of games they want tested but here is mine. Homebrew 2600 Medieval Mayhem Circus Convoy Space Rocks Robot War (pretty sure this one won't work) Juno First Ruby Q And my personal favorite game: Jr. PACMAN. Thanks for testing! Medieval Mayhem and Juno First work. Circus Convoy, rubyQ, RobotWar and Space Rocks do not work at this time. Not sure about Jr. Pac-Man, haven't tried that, I imagine it works (assuming you are talking about the 2600 version -- I haven't tried either the 2600 or 7800 flavors). ..Al 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakasama Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Since you’re asking for carts for testing, can people also bring in more exotic controllers for testing? Like, keyboard controllers, genesis controllers, or prolines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, Bakasama said: Since you’re asking for carts for testing, can people also bring in more exotic controllers for testing? Like, keyboard controllers, genesis controllers, or prolines. Sure, being whatever you'd like! I still haven't tested keypad controllers, so I'm particularly interested in those. The 7800 Proline controllers work fine. I haven't tried a Seagull 78 adapter with a Genesis controller for 7800 games, nor have I tried a Genesis controller for 2600 games. ..Al 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Albert said: Sure, being whatever you'd like! I still haven't tested keypad controllers, so I'm particularly interested in those. The 7800 Proline controllers work fine. I haven't tried a Seagull 78 adapter with a Genesis controller for 7800 games, nor have I tried a Genesis controller for 2600 games. Have you been testing trackballs already? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Have you been testing trackballs already? No, and I very much need to! I think they will work fine. I should have brought some of the track-ball hacks to PRGE and then someone could have brought a trak-ball to test. I'll test one when I get back home from the show. ..Al 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSamyon Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Albert said: Medieval Mayhem and Juno First work. Circus Convoy, rubyQ, RobotWar and Space Rocks do not work at this time. Not sure about Jr. Pac-Man, haven't tried that, I imagine it works (assuming you are talking about the 2600 version -- I haven't tried either the 2600 or 7800 flavors). ..Al Thank you for your response! Really bummed about ruby Q and Circus Convoy not working. Hopefully that can be fixed later on. And yes, I was referring to the 2600 Jr. PACMAN. That's probably my most played game so hoping it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, SuperSamyon said: Really bummed about ruby Q and Circus Convoy not working. Hopefully that can be fixed later on. And yes, I was referring to the 2600 Jr. PACMAN. That's probably my most played game so hoping it works. Jr- PacMan should already work. And Circus Convoy could be made working with a firmware update. But I am quite pessimistic about the ARM games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluxit Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Albert said: No, and I very much need to! I think they will work fine. I should have brought some of the track-ball hacks to PRGE and then someone could have brought a trak-ball to test. I'll test one when I get back home from the show. ..Al Probably irrelevant with the 2600+, but IIRC, when testing a cx80 with the Retron 77's built in controller ports, it had two problems with the trakball. The first was that the cx80 being tested required about 4.4 volts for stable operation, and the control board was on a 3.3 volt rail, so there was only 3.3 volts available at the controller ports. The second problem was that the control board identified what was plugged into it, and it only knew joysticks and paddles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I won't be at PRGE (being that I am on the opposite coast in a different country), but I think that this is an excellent idea. Kudos to Albert and whomever else is involved for doing this. I really want to play Star Raiders on something close to (but not quite) original hardware, so I too am anxious to find out if the keypad works. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, fluxit said: Probably irrelevant with the 2600+, but IIRC, when testing a cx80 with the Retron 77's built in controller ports, it had two problems with the trakball. The first was that the cx80 being tested required about 4.4 volts for stable operation, and the control board was on a 3.3 volt rail, so there was only 3.3 volts available at the controller ports. The second problem was that the control board identified what was plugged into it, and it only knew joysticks and paddles. Yup, the front ports of the R77 only work with joysticks and (more or less) with paddles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ever2600 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) I can't wait to see the video of the guy who brings their collection of pron carts to test. 🤣 Mystique baby! Edited October 10, 2023 by 4ever2600 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DhaemonX Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 4:24 PM, 4ever2600 said: I can't wait to see the video of the guy who brings their collection of pron carts to test. 🤣 Mystique baby! Wasn't Custer's Revenge already tested? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzLee Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I had high hopes for the paddles working. They feel sluggish on breakout. A possible dealbreaker. I doubt I could play kaboom like I feel it should be played. Kaboom and super breakout are 2 of my all time favs on the 2600. Kaboom and super breakout should be the benchmark by which all paddle support in emus should be evaluated Tried playing with the new paddles and older OEM. Both with similar results. In fact, the older paddles did exhibit jittery behavior. Things I am not sure of working are the starpath games (multi load as well as single load games) and the cuttle cart. The newer melody board carts don’t work according to Albert. I should have tried some of the champ games since I bought the new turbo and elevator action games at the show. Duh!?! Your mileage may vary… but from my chair the system didn’t perform as needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGHMW Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I'll pass too. I'm going with my OG 2600 Jr. Short Rainbow (the one I bought out of Toronto) as my 2600 unit of choice. Once if and when I get an a/v modded Jr. I'll simply swap out the circuit boards between it and my short rainbow, I believe it's still up for grabs on eBay as I speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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