JetmanUK Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 20 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: Saw this on fleebay what the #@$& is this? Not sure how well it works. It’s different though! Atari 2600 Homebrew Player cartridge on socket support to be able to put your eproms without any welding on the support. Also compatible with the new atari 2600 + provided that the rom is compatible. Allows you to make your own cartridges by programming eproms of type 2732 only. Allows you to launch games /homebrews, etc... that have a size of up to 4Ko / 32kb That's cool, are you getting one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 31 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: Saw this on fleebay what the #@$& is this? Not sure how well it works. It’s different though! Atari 2600 Homebrew Player cartridge on socket support to be able to put your eproms without any welding on the support. Also compatible with the new atari 2600 + provided that the rom is compatible. Allows you to make your own cartridges by programming eproms of type 2732 only. Allows you to launch games /homebrews, etc... that have a size of up to 4Ko / 32kb That is a blank PCB with an Eprom-socket. With a Eprom programmer you can write your own Eproms and push it in the socket. This way you can make your own homebrew cartridge and you can swap the Eprom with game A for another Eprom with game B and so on. The shell is something custom, but that does not matter. You can find a lot of free cartridge shells on Thingiverse and 3d print them. Sounds difficult,but it is not. PCBWay is loaded with these kind of cheap PCBs, small Eproms cost only a couple of cents and you can buy an Eprom programmer on Aliexpress or Amazon for around 25 Dollars. I made hundreds of Atari 8-bit homebrew cartridges this way😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 8 minutes ago, Fred_M said: That is a blank PCB with an Eprom-socket. With a Eprom programmer you can write your own Eproms and push it in the socket. This way you can make your own homebrew cartridge and you can swap the Eprom with game A for another Eprom with game B and so on. The shell is something custom, but that does not matter. You can find a lot of free cartridge shells on Thingiverse and 3d print them. Sounds difficult,but it is not. PCBWay is loaded with these kind of cheap PCBs, small Eproms cost only a couple of cents and you can buy an Eprom programmer on Aliexpress or Amazon for around 25 Dollars. I made hundreds of Atari 8-bit homebrew cartridges this way😉 Do you, or anyone else have a link for: The boards The Eproms The programmer Preferably a site with UK friendly postage. 😊 I'd probably make a couple of homebrew or demo carts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 26 minutes ago, JetmanUK said: That's cool, are you getting one? I don’t think so I just thought it was cool! And a way to get a rom on a cart for the 2600+. But I’ll probably check out PCBWay @Fred_M mentioned. I heard a bit about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, JetmanUK said: Do you, or anyone else have a link for: The boards The Eproms The programmer Preferably a site with UK friendly postage. 😊 I'd probably make a couple of homebrew or demo carts. Boards: https://www.pcbway.com/project/projectsearch?q=atari+2600+cartridge&t=1 These are various projects made by PCBWay customers. Eproms: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33023228203.html This is just an example, if you search Aliexpress a bit longer I am sure you can find them cheaper. Plus!!! Take a look at the projects on PCBway which Eprom is needed. The one in the link is for the first result of the PCBWay search, the 4KB cartridge for Atari 2600, which needs the 2732 Eprom. Other projects in the list use Eproms of the "27C" series, those are much cheaper. Programmer: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32885179782.html Wow, it is surprising to see how much the price increased in the last 2 years. I bought the predecessor of this one for a lot less. There are cheaper Eprom programmers on Aliexpress, but I am not 100% sure those are compatible with the Eproms we use for Atari cartridges. And, don't forget, you need some basic soldering skills! Edited August 10 by Fred_M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitsized Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 At this point, I'm curious what people's wish lists are now that we have been sharing what we've purchased. Here is my... Personal 2600+ WISH LIST Homebrews Bot & Tom - I love the game play mechanics on this Harpy's Curse - I've been playing on the VCS800 and I'm curious how the CX40 will handle it...AND..I want the map. Space PacMan - It's an interesting concept and game play Amoeba Jump - I remember playing "Doodle Jump" on the phone several years ago - I like the idea of using the CX40 on that. Main Line H.E.R.O. Spy Hunter Off the Wall Froger II: Threedeep What is on your wish list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy princess Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 My wish list??? Atari video cube Keystone kapers Galaxian Ms PAC man Demons to diamonds Mega mania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 4 hours ago, Fred_M said: That is a blank PCB with an Eprom-socket. With a Eprom programmer you can write your own Eproms and push it in the socket. This way you can make your own homebrew cartridge and you can swap the Eprom with game A for another Eprom with game B and so on. The shell is something custom, but that does not matter. You can find a lot of free cartridge shells on Thingiverse and 3d print them. Sounds difficult,but it is not. PCBWay is loaded with these kind of cheap PCBs, small Eproms cost only a couple of cents and you can buy an Eprom programmer on Aliexpress or Amazon for around 25 Dollars. I made hundreds of Atari 8-bit homebrew cartridges this way😉 This is what i need in my life... I wanna program 2600 and 7800 eproms and have all my roms physically, and maybe someday sell games with eggs at a farmers market up in the upper midwest or the tundras of the arctic. Fred tell me more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 41 minutes ago, Bitsized said: At this point, I'm curious what people's wish lists are now that we have been sharing what we've purchased. Here is my... Personal 2600+ WISH LIST Homebrews Bot & Tom - I love the game play mechanics on this Harpy's Curse - I've been playing on the VCS800 and I'm curious how the CX40 will handle it...AND..I want the map. Space PacMan - It's an interesting concept and game play Amoeba Jump - I remember playing "Doodle Jump" on the phone several years ago - I like the idea of using the CX40 on that. Main Line H.E.R.O. Spy Hunter Off the Wall Froger II: Threedeep What is on your wish list? Bleach Pac-Man [7800] Halo 2600 Alien Brigade Ikari Warriors [7800] Commando [7800] Robotron 2084 [7800] Ms Pac-Man [Either] Mean 18 Demolition Herby Princess Rescue [2600, hope it works with the CX78+] Tunnel Runner Bump n Jump Mr Run n Jump Berzerk Enhanced Edition It goes on and on honestly but thats the main ones i wanna get done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 2 hours ago, Fred_M said: Boards: https://www.pcbway.com/project/projectsearch?q=atari+2600+cartridge&t=1 These are various projects made by PCBWay customers. Eproms: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33023228203.html This is just an example, if you search Aliexpress a bit longer I am sure you can find them cheaper. Plus!!! Take a look at the projects on PCBway which Eprom is needed. The one in the link is for the first result of the PCBWay search, the 4KB cartridge for Atari 2600, which needs the 2732 Eprom. Other projects in the list use Eproms of the "27C" series, those are much cheaper. Programmer: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32885179782.html Wow, it is surprising to see how much the price increased in the last 2 years. I bought the predecessor of this one for a lot less. There are cheaper Eprom programmers on Aliexpress, but I am not 100% sure those are compatible with the Eproms we use for Atari cartridges. And, don't forget, you need some basic soldering skills! Oh thank you! Maybe in the winter i might try these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Maztr_0n said: Oh thank you! Maybe in the winter i might try these Here is an example of a homebrew package I made for the Atari 8-bit computers. The game was made by a friend of mine and we designed the packaging together. So an original game and no piracy 😃 The cartridge contains a custom PCB, an Eprom chip and a Gal chip (for bankswitching). The cartridge case was downloaded from Thingiverse. Edited August 10 by Fred_M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Fred_M said: Here is an example of a homebrew package I made for the Atari 8-bit computers. The game was made by a friend of mine and we designed the packaging together. So an original game and no piracy 😃 The cartridge contains a custom PCB, an Eprom chip and a Gal chip (for bankswitching). The cartridge case was downloaded from Thingiverse. neat, i wonder how i can make my own 2600 and 7800 carts, i'd love to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Maztr_0n said: neat, i wonder how i can make my own 2600 and 7800 carts, i'd love to do so. on this i am wondering if theres a list of like, which 7800 games fall under which type of cartridge, as seen here http://atarihq.com/danb/7800cart/a7800cart.shtml#types also wonder what kind of eproms you'd need for 7800. seems more simple on the 2600 side obviously but it'd be cool to branch out if i want to make my own carts. i'd also wonder about how to get labels made, i no longer have a working printer. Advice or anything would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitsized Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 15 hours ago, fairy princess said: My wish list??? Atari video cube Keystone kapers Galaxian Ms PAC man Demons to diamonds Mega mania I've never seen an atari video cube "in the wild" but those other games are easy to come by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 11 hours ago, Maztr_0n said: on this i am wondering if theres a list of like, which 7800 games fall under which type of cartridge, as seen here http://atarihq.com/danb/7800cart/a7800cart.shtml#types also wonder what kind of eproms you'd need for 7800. seems more simple on the 2600 side obviously but it'd be cool to branch out if i want to make my own carts. i'd also wonder about how to get labels made, i no longer have a working printer. Advice or anything would be great. 7800 cartridges is much more difficult. I never made a 7800 cartridge, I cannot find a publicly available 7800 PCB file. AtariAge normally has a service that they make a cartridge for you ( https://atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=950 ) but at the moment it is not available. According to this article https://www.ataricompendium.com/faq/7800_eprom_cart.pdf you can use the PCB of an existing game, but in these days cannibalizing a 7800 cartridge does not sound as a good idea. Maybe buying a flash cartridge (Concerto, Gamedrive) would be a better idea... 😉 Edited August 11 by Fred_M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Urrr. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidbottle Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Wish lists, no problem: Snoopy MASH Frenzy 7800 boxed .. will never happen as there is no box (someone prove me wrong!) Impossible Mission 7800 Alien Revenge of the Beefsteak Tomatoes All CIB with/without instructions Anyone offering? 😁 I think with some patience and money most of these are obtainable, though boxed 20th Century Fox ones are very rare in the UK at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, CPUWIZ said: Urrr. AFAIK these PCBs (Gerber files) are not available to download, but please correct me if I am wrong 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane857 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, acidbottle said: Wish lists, no problem: Snoopy MASH Frenzy 7800 boxed .. will never happen as there is no box (someone prove me wrong!) Impossible Mission 7800 Alien Revenge of the Beefsteak Tomatoes All CIB with/without instructions Anyone offering? 😁 I think with some patience and money most of these are obtainable, though boxed 20th Century Fox ones are very rare in the UK at least. I've seen loose copies of M.A.S.H here in the UK on ebay. Impossible Mission 7800 is fairly common also. Good luck getting the rest thou, you'll probably have to import them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 7 hours ago, Fred_M said: AFAIK these PCBs (Gerber files) are not available to download, but please correct me if I am wrong 😃 No, I don't participate in open source, you are correct. All that ever happens is, someone else takes your stuff and makes money off of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bent_pin Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 On 8/10/2024 at 3:21 PM, fairy princess said: My wish list??? Atari video cube Keystone kapers Galaxian Ms PAC man Demons to diamonds Mega mania I have a copy of Megamania complete in box for $17 plus shipping. It has a box protector included. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, CPUWIZ said: No, I don't participate in open source, you are correct. All that ever happens is, someone else takes your stuff and makes money off of it. shit, you'll dominate the repro market! spare individual reproduction carts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maztr_0n Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, bent_pin said: I have a copy of Megamania complete in box for $17 plus shipping. It has a box protector included. forgot to mention my copy of gravitar came with one! unfortunately it wouldn't fit on the shelf i have in my room so i left it loose unfortunately, but my protector is kept safely in a different shelf in a different orientation for which it actually fits in. i mean on the shelf the boxes are already perfectly snug like a book right now, its kinda flush since almost all of them are either 2600 red box or 7800 boxed games... -v- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 3 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: No, I don't participate in open source, you are correct. All that ever happens is, someone else takes your stuff and makes money off of it. Not everyone will, but I can understand your position. I am curious why you wanted to show them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 43 minutes ago, Fred_M said: Not everyone will, but I can understand your position. I am curious why you wanted to show them? Well, there are thousands of homebrew's out there that use them. Frankodragon, for instance, contacts me for boards. I am just about to send a handful to Bob, because he is out again. I probably misunderstood, I read "that is hard and you can't get them anywhere". All good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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