Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The current 2600+ firmware does not offer an UI to change any settings. If your homebrew relies on special settings (e.g. PAL-60 or phosphor effect), only Stella's built-in properties can help here. For that, Stella has to know the game and use its properties. But for many games, the final ROM has not been released. So we cannot add the game ourselves. Also, it is almost impossible for us to keep track with all released homebrews. So if you want your game added, we need your help! Start your game in Stella, go to the Game properties and edit them at your will (Note: If the auto detection is correct, please do not overwrite it). You may also want to add game information like author, distributor and a link (e.g. to the AtariAge store or a game homepage). After you are done, press 'Export...' to save the game properties and post the file here. We will make sure that your game's properties will be added in the next Stella release. Note: Currently, for the 2600+, the property loading will not work for any bankswitched games which use a scheme with the hotspots in the ROM area (e.g. F8). This may change in the future. Fingers crossed! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Thanks! BTW, "(PAL50)" or just "(PAL)"? L.E.M.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionoid Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Note: Currently, for the 2600+, the property loading will not work for any bankswitched games which use a scheme with the hotspots in the ROM area (e.g. F8). This may change in the future. Fingers crossed! Hi Thomas, I'll send you the game properties for my games. The rom of my F8 game (Tower of Rubble) has $00 values in the hotspot addresses; do you know if the 2600+ dumper reads these hotspot values as-is when dumping the rom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Dionoid said: Hi Thomas, I'll send you the game properties for my games. The rom of my F8 game (Tower of Rubble) has $00 values in the hotspot addresses; do you know if the 2600+ dumper reads these hotspot values as-is when dumping the rom? AFAIK not, it reads each value. And the values returned from hotspots are more or less random. Edited December 31, 2023 by Thomas Jentzsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionoid Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Here are the game properties for Amoeba Jump, Tower of Rubble and Lode Runner: dionoid game properties.zip Thanks! Edited December 31, 2023 by Dionoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, Dionoid said: Here are the game properties for Amoeba Jump, Tower of Rubble and Lode Runner: dionoid game properties.zip 2.34 kB · 2 downloads Thanks! I noticed that you set the display format NTSC. Are these detected wrong by Stella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionoid Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: I noticed that you set the display format NTSC. Are these detected wrong by Stella? No, Stella detects the NTSC-versions of my games correctly, so you're right that this doesn't need to be in the .pro files. Here are the updated .pro files. dionoid game properties.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 No problem. I have edited them myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanner Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The Atari 2600+ use Retroarch so does not have all the settings that Stella has because it uses a core(a copy of the main emulator) and plus its 3rd party if you think about it so made by the Retroarch Team not the Stella Team so somethings that are added to Stella is not added to Retroarch core straight way or even if they are and a Retroarch core is not the same as using Stella the Emulator, its complete different, I added the Retroarch Core Hatari Atari ST Emulator into PCUAE because I could not use the main emulator so had to use Retroarch so not all its settings are available so you can not do everything you would be able to do in the main emulator, Retroarch is like MESS, Retroarch is limited by its GUI and the commands you can use. Plus the Atari2600+ uses a older version of Retroarch 1.7.4 same as in PCUAE(1.7.0), its the only one I got working because of THEC64 Mini's 256mb RAM, this has the same problem, a new version of Retroarch would be to big for its ram and it would crash, it has to load Retroarch first then the core, with 1.9.6 it only got to loading Retroarch half way then ran out of memory so killed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 42 minutes ago, Spanner said: The Atari 2600+ use Retroarch so does not have all the settings that Stella has because it uses a core(a copy of the main emulator) and plus its 3rd party if you think about it so made by the Retroarch Team not the Stella Team so somethings that are added to Stella is not added to Retroarch core straight way or even if they are and a Retroarch core is not the same as using Stella the Emulator, its complete different, I added the Retroarch Core Hatari Atari ST Emulator into PCUAE because I could not use the main emulator so had to use Retroarch so not all its settings are available so you can not do everything you would be able to do in the main emulator, Retroarch is like MESS, Retroarch is limited by its GUI and the commands you can use. Plus the Atari2600+ uses a older version of Retroarch 1.7.4 same as in PCUAE(1.7.0), its the only one I got working because of THEC64 Mini's 256mb RAM, this has the same problem, a new version of Retroarch would be to big for its ram and it would crash, it has to load Retroarch first then the core, with 1.9.6 it only got to loading Retroarch half way then ran out of memory so killed it. Nick, check your DMs please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 51 minutes ago, Spanner said: I added the Retroarch Core Hatari Atari ST Emulator into PCUAE because I could not use the main emulator so had to use Retroarch so not all its settings are available so you can not do everything you would be able to do in the main emulator, Retroarch is like MESS, Retroarch is limited by its GUI and the commands you can use. bbbradsmith did an amazing new port of Hatari to Libretro if you haven't seen that already. Much better than that unpleasant creaky old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, remowilliams said: bbbradsmith did an amazing new port of Hatari to Libretro if you haven't seen that already. Much better than that unpleasant creaky old one. Do you have a link there please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spanner said: The Atari 2600+ use Retroarch so does not have all the settings that Stella has because it uses a core(a copy of the main emulator) and plus its 3rd party if you think about it so made by the Retroarch Team not the Stella Team so somethings that are added to Stella is not added to Retroarch core straight way or even if they are and a Retroarch core is not the same as using Stella the Emulator, its complete different That's a problem we are facing for a long time. There are even two independent development branches. Quite a mess. But not up to the Stella team to solve. Edited January 3 by Thomas Jentzsch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Do you have a link there please? Sure do: https://github.com/bbbradsmith/hatariB/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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