Starstar Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 I have a new 2600+ and I noticed that the right controller port only works when I play a two person game like Fishing Derby. For a one person game like Adventure that port doesn’t work, I can only use the left port. Is this normal? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Yes, completely normal. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bent_pin Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Indeed, that's how it works. It's not like USB where a controller on any port will work. It's based on much older, and cooler tech where each port is read directly by the software without any hardware abstraction layers. It's amazing what they were able to achieve with a 1.19 MHz microprocessor. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane857 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 There are some 2600 games that use the right controller port in my experience... Basketball Gamma Attack Star Ship Tac-Scan Wizard of Wor Masters of the Universe (He-Man) There may be more, not sure. 🤔 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 22 hours ago, shane857 said: There are some 2600 games that use the right controller port in my experience... Basketball Gamma Attack Star Ship Tac-Scan Wizard of Wor Masters of the Universe (He-Man) There may be more, not sure. 🤔 Raiders of the Lost Ark can be added to this as being required to use the right port for game play. There might be more. I know that some games like Starmaster can use a controller in the second port to quickly pull up the galactic map or to switch back to cockpit view. Can't remember which but I know it does something. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 On 6/10/2024 at 2:50 PM, shane857 said: There are some 2600 games that use the right controller port in my experience... Basketball Gamma Attack Star Ship Tac-Scan Wizard of Wor Masters of the Universe (He-Man) There may be more, not sure. 🤔 Wait, what about wizard of wor (CBS ?) uses the right controller port ? I just picked that up recently and I've been playing it. And it's a great game, but I didn't feel like I needed to use this right controller port for anything..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 21 hours ago, tradyblix said: Wait, what about wizard of wor (CBS ?) uses the right controller port ? I just picked that up recently and I've been playing it. And it's a great game, but I didn't feel like I needed to use this right controller port for anything..... I have the same game. I found out later that to do single player, the right controller port must be used. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 10 hours ago, Intellivision Master said: I have the same game. I found out later that to do single player, the right controller port must be used. Ummm. Well, it works only for me in the left controller port, so I dunno why you had that experience. Tested it out today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertclevernamehere Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Towering Inferno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 From the manual for WoW, you can play with the left controller... but it's still a two-player game. Quote TWO-PLAYER VERSION Two players may travel through each dungeon at the same time. Both Joystick Controllers are used in this version. The right one controls the Yellow Worriors and the left one controls the Blue Worriors. Players may work together to destroy Worlings or they may fight against each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 On 6/30/2024 at 7:22 PM, tradyblix said: Ummm. Well, it works only for me in the left controller port, so I dunno why you had that experience. Tested it out today. According to the manual, #4 says the right controller port is for one player only. It also mentions game select for doing one or two players. https://atariage.com/manual_html_page.php?SoftwareLabelID=598 I'll have to play the game again using the left port and try out the game select option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) I don't have the manual for this game, but all I know is that you cannot play this game in single player mode With only one controller plugged into the right port, it just won't work. At least on the experimental r3 firmware. It needs to be plugged into the normal left controller port. Edited July 1 by tradyblix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 On 6/10/2024 at 2:50 PM, shane857 said: There are some 2600 games that use the right controller port in my experience... Basketball Gamma Attack Star Ship Tac-Scan Wizard of Wor Masters of the Universe (He-Man) There may be more, not sure. 🤔 Off the top of my head, Air-Sea Battle and Home Run were a couple of other ones. One thing that was nice about that was you could leave a joystick connected to the right jack, and paddles to the left, and not have to switch controllers so much. In that way it's unfortunate Atari (and/or third parties) didn't standardize on using one jack for P1-2 paddles and the other for P1 joysticks/keyboards/driving/etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 More for the list: Pick'n'Pile Towering Inferno Plus some prototypes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 22 hours ago, tradyblix said: I don't have the manual for this game, but all I know is that you cannot play this game in single player mode With only one controller plugged into the right port, it just won't work. At least on the experimental r3 firmware. It needs to be plugged into the normal left controller port. I put a link for the manual in my last post for you to look at. Also, the cart label even says use the right controller for one player. I played the game recently. Only one controller is connected to the console. First I played using the right port for single player and it worked fine. Then I used the left port and did the game select for one player. That too worked fine. By the way, my 2600+ is on the default firmware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) On 7/2/2024 at 8:11 AM, Intellivision Master said: I put a link for the manual in my last post for you to look at. Also, the cart label even says use the right controller for one player. I played the game recently. Only one controller is connected to the console. First I played using the right port for single player and it worked fine. Then I used the left port and did the game select for one player. That too worked fine. By the way, my 2600+ is on the default firmware. Well, that may be the case.I'm not suggesting that you're wrong about the manual. But I have this game, and this is how I have to play it on the twenty six hundred plus. I have only one controller plugged into the left port, and that is the first person port for all games. If I try to plug the controller into the right port only with no other controller, then the game will not accept any inputs. Edited July 4 by tradyblix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 15 hours ago, tradyblix said: Well, that may be the case.I'm not suggesting that you're wrong about the manual. But I have this game, and this is how I have to play it on the twenty six hundred plus. I have only one controller plugged into the left port, and that is the first person port for all games. If I try to plug the controller into the right port only with no other controller, then the game will not accept any inputs. I'm sorry that you're having problems with the game. Usually the left port is for the one player games. To start the game, you must press reset according to the manual. That's why the controller in the right port isn't giving any input. If that doesn't work, then there's something else going on. Such as the controller being used, the console/firmware having an issue or the game itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 7/5/2024 at 7:59 AM, Intellivision Master said: I'm sorry that you're having problems with the game. Usually the left port is for the one player games. To start the game, you must press reset according to the manual. That's why the controller in the right port isn't giving any input. If that doesn't work, then there's something else going on. Such as the controller being used, the console/firmware having an issue or the game itself. I mean. I'm not having any problems with the game, lol. I'm playing it just fine out of the left hand port. Great game btw, got to be in my top 10. if not top 5. Just everything you could want from a 2600 game playability wise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz0red Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, tradyblix said: I mean. I'm not having any problems with the game, lol. I'm playing it just fine out of the left hand port. Great game btw, got to be in my top 10. if not top 5. Just everything you could want from a 2600 game playability wise Some games are swapped by Stella: "Cart.MD5" "7e8aa18bc9502eb57daaf5e7c1e94da7" "Cart.Manufacturer" "CBS Electronics - Roklan, Joe Hellesen, Joe Wagner" "Cart.ModelNo" "M8774, M8794" "Cart.Name" "Wizard of Wor (1982) (CBS Electronics)" "Cart.Note" "Uses the Joystick Controllers (swapped)" "Console.SwapPorts" "YES" This would explain the inconsistency with the manual. This is something that could be disabled in a future firmware version to more closely match the original port mappings (if the majority of people believe it is a change worth making). Thanks, Chris. Edited July 7 by raz0red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 36 minutes ago, raz0red said: This is something that could be disabled in a future firmware version to more closely match the original port mappings (if the majority of people believe it is a change worth making). I think it’s worth making, if it’s not to much trouble. It would be nice if it matched the original mappings but it doesn’t really affect gameplay. Just confusion with the manual or someone who’s use to the original mappings. I was confused when I recently purchased this game, I had no idea you had to use the Right port for player one. I was playing on original hardware, I thought there was something wrong with my cartridge then I read the manual! lol. Best part of it is it’s written on the cartridge! Edited July 7 by MrChickenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, tradyblix said: Great game btw, got to be in my top 10. if not top 5. Just everything you could want from a 2600 game playability wise If you like this one which I do also, you would like Robot City homebrew AtariAge by Thomas Jentzsch. Great game! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 54 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: If you like this one which I do also, you would like Robot City homebrew AtariAge by Thomas Jentzsch. Great game! I don't play games by that person as he's been extremely rude to me on this forums before. No thanks! Aardvark is good tho, I bought that before I decided to boycott him. Don't play it much tho, it's one of those games that looks cooler than it plays. Just my personal opinion. 1 hour ago, raz0red said: Some games are swapped by Stella: "Cart.MD5" "7e8aa18bc9502eb57daaf5e7c1e94da7" "Cart.Manufacturer" "CBS Electronics - Roklan, Joe Hellesen, Joe Wagner" "Cart.ModelNo" "M8774, M8794" "Cart.Name" "Wizard of Wor (1982) (CBS Electronics)" "Cart.Note" "Uses the Joystick Controllers (swapped)" "Console.SwapPorts" "YES" This would explain the inconsistency with the manual. This is something that could be disabled in a future firmware version to more closely match the original port mappings (if the majority of people believe it is a change worth making). Thanks, Chris. That explains it, thanks. Personally, I would rather not have to get up and not only worry about the reset switch but switching around controllers, that would really suck. I would stay on r3 forever if we have to do that. Stella probably did it for a good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz0red Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 23 minutes ago, tradyblix said: Stella probably did it for a good reason. Yeah, it is typically done for emulation as if you are using a keyboard, or single controller, etc. it is pretty annoying to have to figure out how to play using the second port. This really comes down to authenticity versus convenience for the 2600+. It is definitely a good issue to raise and discuss. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 13 hours ago, tradyblix said: I mean. I'm not having any problems with the game, lol. I'm playing it just fine out of the left hand port. Great game btw, got to be in my top 10. if not top 5. Just everything you could want from a 2600 game playability wise It's good the game works. I just meant because it was giving you problems using the right port. I'm glad you're able to play the game with the left port. It is a great game. I was going to get the Champ Games 2600 version to play on my 7800 but decided to buy the old version and I'm content with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 13 hours ago, tradyblix said: Aardvark is good tho Yes! Aardvark is good, I have this one also! It’s one of many of my favorites by Thomas Jentzsch! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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