+Allan Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 How about a boxed version of a barely playable 7800 homebrew? There aren't a lot of 7800 protos out there, you know! Can somebody say 'ROF'? Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesmooth Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 I have followed this saga since the beginning. If that were true, you would have read the part where the store owner didn't even plan to sell the goddam thing yet, but couldn't resist Tempest's offer, thereby invalidating almost everything you just said. If he wasn't planning to sell it, it shouldn't have been in the box with the rest of the carts to begin with. Mistake or not, it's a nice tale. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osbo Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 oh well shit happends dude, at least you'll get to play it Tempest... 1000 bucks in a game, WoW Good luck with the dumping, can't wait to see the screenshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikyo Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 The fight is over. The prototype is saved. Yeah well done! I'm glad I didn't have to sing "Another one bites the dust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 How about a boxed version of a barely playable 7800 homebrew? There aren't a lot of 7800 protos out there, you know! Can somebody say 'ROF'? I was actually referring to one I've been writing. I've been using the CC2, but I even made a proto board out of a Pole Position II. I haven't had time to work on it in the past couple of weeks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Tempest... 1000 bucks in a game, WoW I don't know why everyone thinks that this is an unheard of sum. There are many people who have bought Magicards, Video Lifes, Eli's Ladders, and all those other 10's that have spent much more than $1000. Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Very true... only if that one of those would be up for sale, i would buy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 How about a boxed version of a barely playable 7800 homebrew? There aren't a lot of 7800 protos out there, you know! Can somebody say 'ROF'? I was actually referring to one I've been writing. I've been using the CC2, but I even made a proto board out of a Pole Position II. I haven't had time to work on it in the past couple of weeks though. Cool! Care to share some snap-shots? Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I don't know why everyone thinks that this is an unheard of sum. There are many people who have bought Magicards, Video Lifes, Eli's Ladders, and all those other 10's that have spent much more than $1000. Maybe the reason is, those trades are just often not as public as this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I haven't read through 11 pages of posts but was wondering how the dumping is going. I know a bit of this story and its very intriguing. Has it been found to even work at this point considering the poor way the original owner manhandled it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I haven't read through 11 pages of posts but was wondering how the dumping is going. I know a bit of this story and its very intriguing. Has it been found to even work at this point considering the poor way the original owner manhandled it? There is a bug, but it has been identified 100%. Now someone is working on fixing it (might require some extra time). It's not sure, that the bug was caused by the shop owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Maybe the reason is, those trades are just often not as public as this one. Or maybe because it's possible the game wont work. That's a whole lot of cabbage for a game you didn't/don't know even functioned. Most high dollar rare games are pre-tested and go for a significantly less amount if they are known not to work ahead of time. In any case, I hope it does work, and I hope we'll all get the opportunity to help Tempest recoup some of the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 There is a bug, but it has been identified 100%. Now someone is working on fixing it (might require some extra time). It's not sure, that the bug was caused by the shop owner. To elaborate on this, it's not a software bug, but a hardware bug. We think one of the lines (the addressing line) in the eprom is broken which causes it not to work right (it can only read half the code). This explains why the prototype would not work when plugged in, and why the eprom cannot be dumped properly. The line can be fixed, but is microscopic and requires alot of skill. The prototype is now on its way to a professional who can fix it. I will let everyone know how things are going as soon as I hear something. Don't expect to hear anything for at least a few days as the prototype is in transit, and it will take a bit to fix (you don't want to rush into a repair job like this). Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabeen557 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 To elaborate on this, it's not a software bug, but a hardware bug. We think one of the lines (the addressing line) in the eprom is broken which causes it not to work right (it can only read half the code). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I don't know why everyone thinks that this is an unheard of sum. Because to a lot of us, spending $1000 on anything is almost unheard of. That's a lot of money when you don't have any. The line can be fixed, but is microscopic and requires alot of skill. The prototype is now on its way to a professional who can fix it. Wow - that's insane! I guess offering up my soldering iron wouldn't do much good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Think of it this way: Tempest placed a $1000 bet on a chance to get a priceless item. Bigger sums are bet for a lesser reward every second in casinos. Whether he finds a way to make the money back or not, the historical and personal value of such an item is immeasurable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 To elaborate on this, it's not a software bug, but a hardware bug. We think one of the lines (the addressing line) in the eprom is broken which causes it not to work right (it can only read half the code). Well, strictly speaking he is right. The DATA is still on the chip, we just can't completely access it anymore. But I am very positive this will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 So.... what is this game again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 So.... what is this game again? It's a long lost Fox prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Tempest: since that 'other thread' got locked (sheesh I'm just happy about a new 2600 proto and LOOK at that can of worms! I do hope we all get to play it some how. Can't we all just get along! What other thread? Man, as usual I must be totally out of it! I only looked into this thread when I saw it was growing to 11 pages. "hmmm something must be going on here". But otherwise there was nothing in the title that caught my interest in any way better late than never though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 What other thread? icon_confused.gif Man, as usual I must be totally out of it! It was unrelated but had a Meltdown question in it. You didn't miss anything. abeen557 wrote:Quote: I pushed a little to hard and two of the pins bent on EPROM which actually does nothing to the DATA on the chip itself. Tempest wrote: To elaborate on this, it's not a software bug, but a hardware bug. We think one of the lines (the addressing line) in the eprom is broken which causes it not to work right (it can only read half the code). icon_rolleyes.gif Well, strictly speaking he is right. The DATA is still on the chip, we just can't completely access it anymore. But I am very positive this will change. Yep that's correct. Bending (or even breaking) pins doesn't destroy the data on the chip. Unfortunately it makes it more difficult to get the data off though. However in this case the pins are all intact except for one, and that one broke only halfway down and was fixed. If the line can be fixed then the EPROM should function like new again. Think of it this way: Tempest placed a $1000 bet on a chance to get a priceless item. Bigger sums are bet for a lesser reward every second in casinos. Whether he finds a way to make the money back or not, the historical and personal value of such an item is immeasurable. That's exactly the way I look at it. I took a big gamble on a piece of Atari history. I think in the end my bet will pay off. But even if it doesnt, I still own the only known Meltdown prototype (just not working). Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabeen557 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i wasnt saying that he destroyed the data, just that he caused the problem with extracting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Think of it this way: Tempest placed a $1000 bet on a chance to get a priceless item. Bigger sums are bet for a lesser reward every second in casinos. Whether he finds a way to make the money back or not, the historical and personal value of such an item is immeasurable. Oh, I understand the concept of being willing to pay $1000 for something like that. But it's way beyond my means to do anything of the sort, and therefore something that I can't actually fathom doing. For instance... I used to collect comic books, and even though I understood the value of Action #1, it was beyond my abilities to ever afford one. Even though it's gone up in value more than ten times since then. So I understand... but I just can't relate. So.... what is this game again? The third game in the Reactor/China Syndrome trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricDeLee Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I'm not a prototype collector or anything like that, but have followed this topic from day one. I think $1000 is a lot to spend on any one game, BUT that is because I'm mostly a gamer rather than a hardcore collector! Also, I realize that this is a part of Atari History. If I had the extra $1000 to spend and could actually have a cart no one else has, I think I'd jump at it. Call it bragging rights or whatever. But... when everything works out, I'd like to help recover some of the money he spent on this! I'd take a cart as well! Heck, box a few up, make it a special edition (like maybe only 100 ever made) and advertise it on Ebay. I'm sure people would gulp them up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 If the game is halfway worth playing, I'm sure there will be a cart release from AtariAge (and a ROM release as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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