xenomorpher Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Hi I tried many many times to burn an emulator (nester) on my DC and non have worked. I even did the step by step at www.dcemulation.com no luck. I searched the web and no luck they just said go to www.dcemulation.com or what they said didnt help. I even tried burning a boot disk but no luck. I litteraly have a pile of CDs that dont work that I burned. I have emulators on my PC so I understand about the ROM thing so this is my last resort. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 That doesn't say much, since there are many ways to burn a disc. Did you use burner software like Nero, or did you use a cdrecord/mkisofs command-line method? The most important thing is how your burning software handles track 1. Because of the way that multiple sessions work, the second session has to have its block numbers in the ISO image based on where it will appear after burning. Some software will add an extra 2 sectors, some won't. I've even had the same software (Toast) add 2 sectors when run under Mac OS 9, but not under OS X. This is why the numbers 11700 and 11702 are significant. When using the cdrecord method, you're supposed to use a get info command before running mkisofs, so you can know what numbers to give to mkisofs so the image will be at the right sector address. I can't tell you much about other methods because 1) I use OS X, and 2) I use a shell script that burns with cdrecord/mkisofs. You also didn't say whether you were burning from .cdi style "all in one" images or if you were making an ISO image from plain files. When burning from plain files, you need a "scrambled" version of 1ST_READ.BIN, and you need to merge boot code into the resulting ISO. Do your discs boot with a loader disc like Utopia? If so, you may be using an unscrambled 1ST_READ.BIN. And then there's the possiblity that your DC is too new. What's the mfg date on the label on the bottom? If it's Nov 2000 or later, this may be your problem. (Then again, some have said that the "normal" CD-boot loophole still works even on newer units.) Oh, and by the way, I really prefer the older (6.x?) version of Nester. The current 7.1 has a seriously crappy multi-level menu user interface, without any noticable (to me) improvement in emulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 Sorry I used nero version 6 .3 .1 .25 and Im using windows XP. I used self boot to make a Nero Image. My dreamcast was made I think 2001. Also Here is the link in which I followed the steps http://www.dcemulation.com/selfboot-nesterdc.htm I thought it would be pretty easy but I guess its not or I have bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Try an older DC unit first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 Theres no people around here that have one so Ill just stick with emulators on my PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgWyld Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Could be you're using the Nero Wizard and it's trying to do something funky with your image. You just want to burn the image straight to the disk. In my Nero program, I have to exit out of the window, open the image to be burned and slap it directly on the disc. Works everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 If you find it difficult to get stuff to work I'd recommend you check out Sbiffy! and download an SBI of Nester since thats by far the easiest route to go! Just go to the site and check out the forum where you'll get answers to all questions about burning Nester and where to put the roms etc. /Troop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 7, 2004 Author Share Posted October 7, 2004 OK I'll do that thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha_ninjalo Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Try using Nero, but burn it using "track at once". That's what I used and all of my DC emus worked. Smart move using the Self-boot off of DCEmulation too, another good program is DCFactory. It automatically adds the bootstrap and the 1st.bin too the iso you are burning, it makes life a lot easier! lol Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 8, 2004 Author Share Posted October 8, 2004 Ill try the Nero again btw does it matter what version you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 I've heard that Nero 6 and upwards is a no-go when it comes to DC burning, I don't know why it's just what I've heard. I use version 5.5.9.17 and it works great for me. Your best bet when it comes to burning DC stuff is IMHO Discjuggler or, if that doesn't work with your burner, Alcohol 120%. /Troop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 8, 2004 Author Share Posted October 8, 2004 That might be it I have Nero 6 something and Disc Juggler wontwork. Does Alcohol 58% ( I think the demo version) work? Id get the regular one but Bit Torrent doesnt work for some reason maybe my DSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Do you mean Alcohol 52%? As far as I can remember that is only for emulating CD and DVD's much like Daemon Tools. The download for the trial version of Alcohol 120% is here /Troop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 8, 2004 Author Share Posted October 8, 2004 I got it to work and kept asking me the serial code........I had Alcohol 120% before and I lost the keycode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 9, 2004 Author Share Posted October 9, 2004 Its installed but I cant open the trial version and acts like I downloaded the full version. Im so close I have the CD image with the ROMS in it and everything I just need to burn it but it wont work right with Nero since I think its version 6 plus alcohol 120% wont work till I have a keycode which I dont. Im so close to having my first emulator on my DC!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osbo Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 my dc it's an emu whore I just got all the VCS roms from AA and make a cd with DCStella, man, it's so nice to play all the games again Get selfboot, it will create an image u can burn for your DC, I'm using nero image, it's the second one I think, works every time, good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 9, 2004 Author Share Posted October 9, 2004 Nero is not working and I cant find anyplace with a version less then 6 and Alcohol 120% Trial Version doesnt work right because it acts like the full version and asking me for the serial code and Discjuggle wont work either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vb_master Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 When was your Dreamcast made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 9, 2004 Author Share Posted October 9, 2004 Ok I fixed the Alcohol 120% problem and burnt the images and still hasnt worked. Im using Memorex Black CD-R All Use cds and my Dreamcast was made June 2000. Could it be the cds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vb_master Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Ok, you're DC might not work with CD's at all. Tips and tricks, also a nice DC Emulation site with plenty of instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 DC emulation said mine worked and even had the same label date as mine and everything, are the Black Memorex CD-Rs the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 DC emulation said mine worked and even had the same label date as mine and everything, are the Black Memorex CD-Rs the problem? They're probably not the problem, but just use the cheapest CD-R blanks you can find. Especially until you get one to work. And no CD-RW, because the DC won't read 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 13, 2004 Author Share Posted October 13, 2004 Ok this is the only thing I can think of so here it goes. Can anyone here thats honest and thats around Pittsburgh(Im a few hours away so in that general area) and that has played emulators on their DC test my disk to see if it works on their DC? I will mail it and you dont have to pay anything and even keep the disk or throw it away. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vb_master Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Ok, here's what I want you to try: Try to burn DC Hakker on the cheapest CD-R blank you can find. If you don't have Nero, get it, and use it to burn the CD Image for Nero of DC Hakker. Remember, you need to make a CD from an image, and not the other way around (burn the image file itself to the CD). Make sure you're using Disc-At-Once and not Track-At-Once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorpher Posted October 13, 2004 Author Share Posted October 13, 2004 Does any version of nero matter because I can only find version 6 something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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