Goochman Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Ok, Got the cart today - whats the best way to test this baby out? What can I do with it today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classics Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 For just testing the basic hardware you can download the USB DDK disk from the ABBUC microusb.org site. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/microus...kd.atr?download When you boot that ATR with the cartridge inserted, it should detect the USB bus controller as SL811HS v1.5. You can also do 'CHECKUSB1' and 'REGTEST' at the command prompt to test the bus controller registers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Since the idea of a USB Stick HD is a popular one with others that bought this cart I wonder if folks would be willing to pay say $20 each for the driver to be written? Can the USB cart drive booting the A8 into DOS from the USB device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Hi, we have packed all drivers available today on one ATR Diskimage for endusers to use: http://www.strotmann.de/twiki/bin/view/Mic...AtariDriverDisk What is on the disk: Filename Comment ------------------------------------------------ DOS.SYS Atari Dos 2.5 FMS DUP.SYS Atari Dos 2.5 DUP BIBOASS.COM Bibo Assembler USBKEY.SRC USB Simple Keyboard Driver Source USBKEY.COM USB Simple Keyboard Driver USBWHEEL.SRC USB Wheel Driver (Thrustmaster) Source USBWHEEL.COM USB Wheel Driver (Thrustmaster) USBTEST.COM USB Human Interface Devices (HID) Test Program USBJOYPD.SRC USB digital Joypad Driver Source USBJOYPD.COM USB digital Joypad Driver USBJOYST.SRC USB analog Joystick Driver Source USBJOYST.COM USB analog Joystick Driver BOULDER.COM Boulder Dash 1 for USB digital Joypad All driver will simulate a normal Atari Joystick on Port 1 and will also give access to the USB HID Registers for that device. We will publish a Users Manual and a Developers Manual for each driver shortly. The USBTEST.COM HID Test Program will detect an Human Interface Devices attached the USB Cart. It will poll the USB Device and will print out the 8 bytes in the HID Packets when the device sends data. Any Atari Key will stop the polling. Type USB[RETURN] to start polling again, hit return to attach a new USB device. Type MON to go to DOS. If your device is not working with the available drivers, test this device with the USBTEST.COM Program. If you see values, we can write drivers for this. If not, then the device is using a non-HID Protocol or is attached to an internal USB HUB and will not work today. If you have problems, send us your problem reports ONLY via the Sourceforge Bugtracking System (not E-Mail or in any forum) The Bugtracking System is at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1...428&atid=659189 Please list: * Type of device * Device Name * Vendor * Drivers tested * Output of USBTEST.COM (sorry, you have to type it from the screen for now) Best regards Carsten Strotmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Since the idea of a USB Stick HD is a popular one with others that bought this cart I wonder if folks would be willing to pay say $20 each for the driver to be written? Can the USB cart drive booting the A8 into DOS from the USB device? Well, for me money not is the problem (when it comes to write USB drivers), it is my spare time. And givining me enough money that I can quit my job and work only on USB will require more then $20 ( a lot more ) Ok, it seems to be possible to write a Druver to access files on an USB Stuck, but we will never be able to boot from the USB Cart as it is today. For that we would need an Cartridge rom on the Cart. Best regards Carsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 The Driver Disk is also available on SourceForge in the Files Section of our MicroUSB Project http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...group_id=111428 Best regards Carsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 THough youd never make enough writing 8bit USB drivers for a daily job, the idea was everyone who bought a USB cart would pitch in $20 each - that would be a bit more incentive, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 THough youd never make enough writing 8bit USB drivers for a daily job, the idea was everyone who bought a USB cart would pitch in $20 each - that would be a bit more incentive, no? Yes, I know, I was not serious on this daily job thing . No, money is not an incentive for me, that's why it's OpenSource. I would be happy if more people would join and help a little bit. Spend a few hours helping the project instead spending money. It is more fun. But maybe someone else is motivated writing drivers for some money? Ciao Carsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Hope to get my cart soon. Then I can test, if my PS2PC-cable works. Perhaps there will be a driver for a PS(2) Pad on XL Let´s wait until the cart is over here in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 my cart arrived today now its time for me to learn how to write drivers for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 my cart arrived today now its time for me to learn how to write drivers for it It's not difficult (for HID devices). Please feel free to ask... Best regards Carsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Since the idea of a USB Stick HD is a popular one with others that bought this cart I wonder if folks would be willing to pay say $20 each for the driver to be written? Can the USB cart drive booting the A8 into DOS from the USB device? It would help if someone can sponsor USB Devices for the team to test and write drivers for. So if you like to see drivers for a particular USB device a) send us the USB Device or b) send us money to buy such a device We would write the driver with the help of the device and either we a) send the device back to you or b) sell the device on E-Bay and sending the money to the Free Software Foundation (FSF) Best regards Carsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 I have a 128meg USB memory stick I could possibly donate would there be any issues getting it overseas where I presume you are located? Im in the USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Actually - Memory card readers are pretty cheap here and I prob have a spare 16meg card I could donate. Would there be any difference between a memory card reader vs a usb memory stick? The memory card reader would give us more options I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 goochman, are you using ape with your A8 ? im gonna hook up my 130xe to my pc tonight and see if i can find the info on my archos mini HD. i know the HD can be used with both macs and pcs, so maybe a driver will be able to be created for it? ive never used ape yet, but ive owned my registered copy well over a year now, maybe i can help, who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Yes, I am using APE Trial version....keep spending my money on other stuff from Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Yes, I am using APE Trial version....keep spending my money on other stuff from Steve god bless Steven Tucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 @ Goochman, i need you to hold my hand and tell me how to use APE or should i just do trial and error and figure it out what do i need to load to test this mini HD i have ? thanks bro, Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hmmmmmm - you cant hook your HD directly to the Atari - it has to be hooked up to your PC - then APE'd as a drive to teh Atari. You will prob need to load SpartaDOS or MyDos - You can pick a Directory as a Virtual Image that you can select files from on your Atari - However, There is a limit to the amount of files any of the DOS's can manage per directory - maybe 32 comes to mind??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 its a mini usb HD, i thought it would plug into the usbcart ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 its a mini usb HD, i thought it would plug into the usbcart ? Not yet - No device driver for it - APE wont help. Im using APE to run the Driver Disk so I can test out joysticks and such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 got my update from Classics, my APE is prefect, now im gonna practice with it and get back here soon. gonna try and see if that USBTEST.COM file will dump the information from the usb HD device with that said, maybe i will be learning something new thankyou for the help Steve. talk to you soon Goochman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 will USBTOOL.COM work in a dos box while im in windows ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hmmmm - Im a bit confused - this thread is talking about running the USB drivers on a real Atari - the USBTEST.COM and other folks are run from Dos 2.5 on your Atari and has nothing to do with Windoze DOS sessions - unless Im confused? Glad to hear APE is working - I have 2.0.9 as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 im confused, I believe there is a program called USBTEST.COM there that will dump the information about your USB device. You can post that in the USB thread at AA or send it directly to Carsten and he should be able to tell you if a driver can be written or already has been written. this is what Classics said to do, so maybe it is with the Atari hardware confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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