+Cafeman Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Wow. Rather amazing that Bill Hogue is still around (I mean reachable I guess) and still as into the Atari 8bit/5200 and his Miner games. Amazing that the original author is going to release his 5200 game again! Personally, I have never played nor seen in action Bounty Bob. It's far too expensive to buy (I've never even seen the cart to be honest), it's so rare. And I don't think I even got it to run in an emulator. But Miner 2049er is a great game .. played the 5200 version many many times (with a Masterplay + Genesis 6-button pad .. but the 5200 control on Miner is really impressive and has great control. It does what you want it to do!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsralph Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 True, but what about the elevator level(s). How do you push 1,2, or 3 ? I have a masterplay and it is a pure bitch having to reach for the keys. I imagine its not much easier reaching for the keys on the 8bit either?Practice a little...it's not so bad with the 5200 controllers. Good point, I forgot about those. I have a Wico keypad sot hat's not too bad, but not as convenient as having them as part of the controller you're holding in your hand. However, you are not going to sell me that 5200 controllers aren't that bad for this type of game. ..Al If any game teaches you how to re-center the 5200 stick by touch it is BBSB, once you get the feel it becomes fairly easy. I tried it using a Masterplay and still do way better with the 5200 stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamezmaster Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Does anyone know where and when these will be available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legeek Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Very cool! Looking forward to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsoper Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I wish someone would make a Redemption unit that would accept Jaguar controllers. That way, I could have a keypad and a digital control pad. I'm not much for D-pads instead of joysticks, but it's better than the stock 5200 analog sticks. I do agree that a Jaguar version of the Redemption would be quite spiffy. I've always liked the Jaguar controllers and think they would be a great way to enjoy the majority of 5200 games. No plans anytime soon to make such a version, though. ..Al Jay Tilton and I came up with one independently, I published schematics in case someone wants to build their own or market it. It's all public domain: http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/jag_adapter.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I wish someone would make a Redemption unit that would accept Jaguar controllers. That way, I could have a keypad and a digital control pad. I'm not much for D-pads instead of joysticks, but it's better than the stock 5200 analog sticks. I do agree that a Jaguar version of the Redemption would be quite spiffy. I've always liked the Jaguar controllers and think they would be a great way to enjoy the majority of 5200 games. No plans anytime soon to make such a version, though. ..Al Jay Tilton and I came up with one independently, I published schematics in case someone wants to build their own or market it. It's all public domain: http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/jag_adapter.html That's awesome! Hopefully you or someone else will find the time to build some of these someday. To have an encoder for all 3 systems would be a dream come true. I'd try and build one, but it looks complicated and probably beyond my limited abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillenterprises Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I wonder if the game is rereleased, if it will decrease the value of my Bounty Bob game? If so, maybe I should sell mine now... Nah, it's too much fun to part with, unless the price is right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I wonder if the game is rereleased, if it will decrease the value of my Bounty Bob game? I doubt it. A collector would still want the original and a gamer wouldn't have spent $200+ for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygrailvideogames.com Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I first posted this message a little over 2 years ago. I personally emailed Bill Hogue and he said that he had been approached by someone who wanted to reproduce the game. He said that he had turned it down because if a reproduction is done he wants it to be a very professional reproduction. He sounded to me like if the right deal came along that he would be willing to at least consider the idea of a reproduction. I am not surprised that he is going to re-issue Bounty Bob. I was kind of shocked that he emailed me back. It was one of my favorite gaming memories as Miner and Bounty Bob are two of my favorite 5200 titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerG Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Wow - this is good news and I hope the project is a success for Bill Hogue. I don't believe at all the idea that a reproduction drops the value of the original cart. In fact, it may generate more interest and exposure and may make it more valuable. Do you think the Coke Wins reproductions sold at CGE killed the price of Pepsi Invaders? No way. Prices on carts fluctuate, but I doube reproduction sales factor into this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillenterprises Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Well, I agree that if you're a hard-core collector, you'll probably still want the original release cart, but if you're just somebody that wants to be able to play the game on original hardware, you'll probably opt for the re-released version. I paid $200 for my BBSB when I bought it a couple years ago, mainly so I could play the game on a real 5200, but, if presented with an option to pay much less for a re-released version, as long it was the complete original game, I would probably buy the re-released version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I think it's great that the original company, still run by the original guy is doing a re-release of something that was sold back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlack Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 While on the subject, I am looking for a Atari 5200 Bounty Bob Strikes Back. PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I think it's great that the original company, still run by the original guy is doing a re-release of something that was sold back in the day. Amen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 I like how he had to use an emulator to debug a sound bug in BBSB. The two pokey sounds cancelling eachother out. I'm pretty sure he is right about BBSB being difficult to crack. I dont ever remember running into an executable of it before I exited the atari 8-bit scene and moved onto other pastures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tomlin Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I like how he had to use an emulator to debug a sound bug in BBSB. The two pokey sounds cancelling eachother out. I'm pretty sure he is right about BBSB being difficult to crack. I dont ever remember running into an executable of it before I exited the atari 8-bit scene and moved onto other pastures. It's so tricky because it uses two 2600-style 8K FF8/FF9 bankswitched ROMs plus an 8K non-bankswitched ROM. Even the 400/800 version is like this! It's convienent in that FF8/FF9 bankswitch chips were available for custom manufacture back in the day, but inconvienent for making a copy of the original and for multi-cart support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I like how he had to use an emulator to debug a sound bug in BBSB. The two pokey sounds cancelling eachother out. I'm pretty sure he is right about BBSB being difficult to crack. I dont ever remember running into an executable of it before I exited the atari 8-bit scene and moved onto other pastures. It's so tricky because it uses two 2600-style 8K FF8/FF9 bankswitched ROMs plus an 8K non-bankswitched ROM. Even the 400/800 version is like this! It's convienent in that FF8/FF9 bankswitch chips were available for custom manufacture back in the day' date=' but inconvienent for making a copy of the original and for multi-cart support.[/quote'] It's inconvenient, but doable. Someone posted a dedicated buit in console they made that even supported BBSB. Maybe someone with better search skills than me can dig up the old thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I like how he had to use an emulator to debug a sound bug in BBSB. The two pokey sounds cancelling eachother out. I'm pretty sure he is right about BBSB being difficult to crack. I dont ever remember running into an executable of it before I exited the atari 8-bit scene and moved onto other pastures. It's so tricky because it uses two 2600-style 8K FF8/FF9 bankswitched ROMs plus an 8K non-bankswitched ROM. Even the 400/800 version is like this! It's convienent in that FF8/FF9 bankswitch chips were available for custom manufacture back in the day' date=' but inconvienent for making a copy of the original and for multi-cart support.[/quote'] It's inconvenient, but doable. Someone posted a dedicated buit in console they made that even supported BBSB. Maybe someone with better search skills than me can dig up the old thread? http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Projects/5200jr/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 It's inconvenient' date=' but doable. Someone posted a dedicated buit in console they made that even supported BBSB. Maybe someone with better search skills than me can dig up the old thread?[/quote'] Yeah I remember reading about that. I suppose it was inconvenient enough to serve it's purpose. Most every copyprotection gets broken eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Well, Bounty Bob Strikes Back! was released on tape in Europe. Wouldn't it be more practical to work from there? -- Atari Frog http://www.atarimania.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Well, Bounty Bob Strikes Back! was released on tape in Europe. Wouldn't it be more practical to work from there? -- Atari Froghttp://www.atarimania.com For the 5200? Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignernt Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 I'm a 5200 fan first and foremost, more than a collector. I'm up for having every possible game, whether that be by multicart, re-release or original. So here's to the possibility of having yet one more game that I can play (or attempt to play, since I suck so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Dogs Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Any news on the release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Any news on the release? 883874[/snapback] Somebody care to email him and see if it's still going to happen? Bill's email is on his site. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Any news on the release? 883874[/snapback] Good question. I looked at their website, but there are no updates to be found. I'm sure once it's made available they'll publicize it a bit. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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