beelzebub3x2 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 hey i have 3 prototypes for the 5200 and 1 preprodution for the 2600' 5200 r s baseball super pacman tempest 2600 socerer's apprentice , it seems finished 5200 prototype's are rs baseball , doesn't seem to be finished , on the regualr one it has a option for voice , the proto does not the other 2 are super pacman and the fabled tempest i know that there has been only a handful of these to turn up , they all seem to work fine , i cannot say for sure if they are finished , as i have never played or seen then before , played that is , i suppose with them being prototypes, they may never have been finished , hence the reason they are prototype's , sorry for the rambling honestly these are only being placed out to the market , because here about a week ago i got chance to get magicard , the price tag $$$$ is a little to much for me , so here comes the prototype's any offer will be considered , i want around $ 150-$250 for the 3 , tempest will be left to the best offer , as this is considered a holy grail among us , i think a good offer will have to be placed before it departs my company soory for saying the games twice , just making sure that the people who view this know which games it is this is my first time on atariage forums , so sorry if i'm a little rusty about the pictures , my camera is dead , i had to use the one's left in my pc i do not have picture for the 2600 socerer's appretice but it has the loaner cart sticker on it the inside on all are on atari eprom boards , i not to tech with the insides of the games , i can't make my own homebrew , i would be afraid i would blow something up , i know that can't happen , but that is my luck you can reach me at eenix01@student.sullivan.edu hope you enjoy thankxx for looking thankxx a million hey on the picture , i'm not a 100% how to mark them but the eproms are for the 3 games as follows tempest first , front and back rs baseball , game shot , inside super pacman , front back thankxx let me know if i can answer any questions or whatnot thankxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 tempest will be left to the best offer , as this is considered a holy grail among us , i think a good offer will have to be placed before it departs my company Is this prototype any different from the one that's already been dumped? How close to complete is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 The Tempest and the Super Pac are reproductions. The RS Baseball is the real deal though. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 The Tempest and the Super Pac are reproductions. Yep, 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelzebub3x2 Posted March 18, 2005 Author Share Posted March 18, 2005 hey as far as they go i'm not the most tech part of the reason they are on here is to what other collecter have to say about them as i'm sure people know alot more about these than me thankxx for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelzebub3x2 Posted March 18, 2005 Author Share Posted March 18, 2005 hey i guess the super pacman and the tempest are not real prototype's if not sorry , like i said i don't know everything about these games , rather the inside , eproms and whatnot thankxx for everyone's help does any one have a picture of a real super pacman and/ or tempest if so please send 1 to me if you can i have a friend who has a super pacman with the actual label , it has pacman , both the super pacman and the tempest , are stored in regualr 5200 shells , i'm not sure but i would venture to say not all of the prototype's have actual labels , but than a again you never know thankxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Just click on the link in Tempest's signature. Since they're repros with no shells, the most you can hope to get for them are $15 each if you're lucky. If your friend has one with an animated Super Pacman label, it is 100% repro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricDeLee Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Anyone got a Sinistar Repro that they'd like to sell me???? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classics Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Do all 5200 production PCBs take an eprom like that? BTW I can read the letters on the PCB in your picture perfectly but not on the eprom, are they blurred out? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Wait...I don't see inverters for either the ones on the production boards. So that would mean they have actual ROMs on them. But Super Pac and Tempest didn't ever have real production ROMs made up did they? If that were the case, then Tempest would be a lot more playable than it is... Why is the baseball proto pic so much smaller than the rest? And I also find it odd that the wording for the super pac and tempest protos aren't visible, unless there isn't anything written on it? Skully said to Mulder: "I want to believe..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Wait...I don't see inverters for either the ones on the production boards. So that would mean they have actual ROMs on them. But Super Pac and Tempest didn't ever have real production ROMs made up did they? If that were the case, then Tempest would be a lot more playable than it is... I'm sure they are EPROMs, I don't see any reason why someone would put a sticker on a chip like that without writing anything on the label unless they just wanted to protect the EPROM window from light. I can't speak as to why there are no additional parts visible, except for the cap. Why is the baseball proto pic so much smaller than the rest? And I also find it odd that the wording for the super pac and tempest protos aren't visible, unless there isn't anything written on it? Skully said to Mulder: "I want to believe..." That and the watermark on the baseball cart (which is also a different size, wiht a different background), which suggests it came from an eBay auction. Beelzebub3x2 -- are these all your pictures? ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggs130 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I believe this be him here-Feel free to correct me if Im wrong! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...8172580739&rd=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deathtrappomegranate Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I also wondered about the strange diversity of picture parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I believe some of his ebay auctions stated he didn't yet have carts on hand, just that he had worked out deals to buy, and he was reusing someone else's pictures. Maybe he doesn't own a camera, or he's lazy. Or maybe he still doesn't have all in his possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Maybe he doesn't own a camera, or he's lazy. Or maybe he still doesn't have all in his possession. Maybe he's making reproductions and trying to pass them off as real prototypes. Take this one with a grain of salt until he produces high quality pictures of his own. His email's at Sullivan University. What kind of college student has thousands of dollars to blow on videogames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggs130 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 This is him here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...8169801913&rd=1 Ive never dealt with him but I did contact him about this auction and he did end it for the error at that time.He does have great feedback on ebay so why rip on him so hard!!!! And this is the auction he most likely recieved the game above from http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8161910999 Everbody can mess up!!!! Myself I would'nt no a proto from crap!thats what the xperts from here are for Not that im in the market (YET) beelzebub3x2 sorry to say it seems like you need to watch were your money is goin on some items as there not worth what your payin' Welcome to Atariage home of the doubters and knowers Stick around as its a great way to learn!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I love that a PAL TNT BMX Airmaster has become a R10 just like the Red Label Atari version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Maybe he doesn't own a camera, or he's lazy. Or maybe he still doesn't have all in his possession. Maybe he's making reproductions and trying to pass them off as real prototypes. Take this one with a grain of salt until he produces high quality pictures of his own. His email's at Sullivan University. What kind of college student has thousands of dollars to blow on videogames? I can verify he does (or did) have these items. Here is a copy of the email explaining what I knew about them at the time I sold them. Hi How did you know I have 5200 Tempest ? It is somewhat of a curiosity as it is on an EPROM but the board looks like a normal production 5200 board and there is no inverter, which makes it rather unusual the EPROM is soldered to the board but it looks like it was done very professionally as it is a very clean job. The game itself looks to be the same version that has been around for a while (no collision detection) so you don't die. Not sure what to ask as I don't know if it is something that came from the lab or just a home hack but the fact it does not have an inverter makes it very unusual BTW I also have Super Pac-Man that I got at the same time and its pretty much the same deal no inverter Anyway it did not come with a case but I did put it into an extra one I had. I guess I could sell it for xx.00 as I am sure its worth that much even if it was a hack, the fact it works without the inverter is really a curiosity and could be worth more to someone who wanted to make copies and would not need to incorporate the inverters. I have some scans of the board I could send if you would like to see it just let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelzebub3x2 Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 HEY , SORRY FOR TAKING SO LONG TO GET BACK TO YOU , I GUESS ALL OF YOU 1, FIRST TO ANSWER THE GUESTION ABOUT ME MAKING THEM , FND , IS WHO I BOUGHT THEM FROM THE PICTURES FOR THEM ARE ONE'S I GOT FROM HIM MY CAMERA IS DEAD , SO YES I HAD TO REUSE THEM 2, THE BASEBALL PIC THAT IS SO SMALL I DON'T KNOW , I'M NOT TO GOOD WITH THE PC , SO I LEFT IT ALONE 3 , YES I AM A FULL TIME COLLEGE STUDENT , ALSO A SINGLE FATHER , BUT UNLIKE MOST PEOPLE I TURNED MY MONEY IT TO PROFIT , I HAVE NI ITNETIONS OF BEING CONTENT WITH JUST LIVING DAY TO DAY OR RATHER PAY CHECK TO PAY CHECK I HOPE THAT ANSWER HOW I CAN SPEND MORE MONEY A MONTH ON MY COLLECTION THAT MOST OF YOU MAKE A MONTH , SORRY BUT NOt ALL OF US HAS MADE BAD MISTAKES WITH THERE TIME ON EARTH TO DIGGS 130 , THANK YOU I HAVE LEARNED IT EASIER TO RIP SOMEONE , WELL CONSIDERED THAT THEY NEVER ACTUALLY SEE THE PERSON THEY ARE RIPPIJG THE BMX AIRMASTER WAS A MISTAKE ON MY PART , AS SOON AS I CAUGHT THE MISTAKE THE AUCTION WAS ENDED , THE BMX I HAVE WAS NOT GOT OFF OF EBAY I BOUGHT IT FROM A FRIEND , I HAVE GOT 2,3 AIRMASTER FROM , EBAY THE LINK THAT SOMEONE HAS I LOST THAT AUCTION , IT WAS IN PAL ,, SO SORRY FOR WATIJNG YOUR TIME , I HAD THOUG IT THEY WRE REAL OR FAKE FOR THAT MATTER SOMEONE COULD HELP THANKXX FOR THAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I guess the ITNET is new in kentucky? Don't take things so seriously dude. People like to think out loud here. But resellers are somewhat frowned upon. I think before one would start in reselling, that one should at least have a very vast knowledge in what it is they are planning on reselling. You should have any & all systems onhand & hooked up to test & confirm games still work. And just have a good idea already, in what things are really worth. Before you start jumping into auctions & side deals with people & geting taken. Or overpaying on things, that aren't going to fetch much more than what you have invested in yourself. You've done really well on a few items, that O2 collection you bought with Power Lords, was a fair price really, but you got easily double what a complete Power Lords is worth when you sold it. That takes someone gullible or just very impatient to bid that high. But congrats to you in getting that for it! Alot of what you've bought though, have been average selling prices themselves, so for you to honestly make a prfit in reselling you must sell for more than the standard going rate, and that doesn't happen often. So you will list & relist items hoping to get a buyer, and continue to loose money in ebay fees doing so. Unless you snap up good BINs by F5ing all day, or by doing evil side deals(also frowned upon around here) you're gonna have a hard time making a good bus out of what it is you're doing. But If no one else who was watching FNDs auctions was willing to bid more than you then, what makes you think the same people are willing to pay twice as much now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelzebub3x2 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 hey a couple of things yes the internet just here in kentucky last week ya know us hillbillies , dumband stinky that wouyld be the cow poo on are feet to video game addict thank you for the comments as far as it goes , yes on the proto and reproduction i agree some one should have vast knowledge of the subject or be able to have people who do know the differnce to help you either way for the 3 prototype's and the socerer's apprentice i paid a whopping total of $205 , for all 4 , so at the very least i have 2 true proto , the baseball and a pre release and 2 fakes only in life will you learn by your mistakes honestly for me $ 200 is sh#t , i wate that week on my son's toys well to whom ever thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 honestly for me $ 200 is sh#t , i wate that week on my son's toys well to whom ever thank you Then why were you even bothering to sell them for a 100% profit for about that much? Some of us here have money, some of us don't. The one thing we all have in common is that we don't throw our money at overpriced items unless it's something we really need and want for our collections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 only in life will you learn by your mistakes Too late when your dead? Anyhoo.. Can you explain this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...8160087103&rd=1 I'm confused as to what it actually included with the Game Gear, you've listed the names of 6 games but it says 8 are included. One of the games can't be correct either... unless you have another proto.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelzebub3x2 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 hey about reselling them my thing is what i pay for something and what someone else is willing to pay is 2 differnt things kinda like this i buy a nes world champ at a flea market the person i buy it from says $15 and he feels he got whatever he put in to i turn around and sell it on ebay for $ 1000, at the lowest , in my mind that is profit , i know some of the hippies out there are like brother you split the money with or soem horse poo along those lines , hell no there is a such thing as getting a good deal and amking a profit off of that , to the cat who asked about the game gear , honestly i didn't even catch that , thank you and yes by the way the 2 other games are protoype's i make in my basement whatever , i put this on here for the sole purpose of getting rid of them if they asre not 100% fine i can live with that i paid a fair price for them so i guess i shoild only sell for say $2 more than what i got for them , hell no everyone has is or have been on this website , i would venture to say that either bought or been ebay , most sellers pay the cheapest for something in hopes to make a huge or even a little profit that is the name of the game is it not ,. i'm not saying rip someone off , but honestly i think if you ha d achance to get a rare game for cheap your a fool for saying to the person hey this is really wirht $100 , so instead of giving the $20 we agreed upon here is $ 65 , whatever to whom it may concern that is foolish more than anything back to the point about ebay what 2-3 weeks ago there was sealed megaman 1 ,it went for over $600 there is no way the seller for it paid more than a hundred i guess he shopuld have stopped the auction after $125 , so as not to offend any one get real there whole is money driven ,. even hippies have to have money sorry but that is the truth as far any thing to all the people how have had postive things to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE PEOPLE HOW HAD NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY WHATEVER , IT IS EASY TO RIP SOMEONE THROUGH A COMPUTER IS IT NOT WHATEVER TO ATARIAGE AND THE REAL DIE HARD COLLECTORS KEEP YOUR HAED'S UP AND CONTINUE THE GREAT WORK THE VIDEO GAME WORLD NEEDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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