Atari freak 1 Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I know there are a bunch of games that are holy grail games (quadrun, swordquest waterworld, silver gravitar, chase the chuck wagon). but which one of those is the rarest? [ 05-20-2002: Message edited by: Atari freak 1 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 A quick look at the rarity guide will show that Quadrun is the rarest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I thought it was Video Life???? No??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Well, he didn't list Video Life on his choices ;p Isn't Air Raid harder to find then Video Life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari freak 1 Posted May 20, 2002 Author Share Posted May 20, 2002 I was refering to all rare games. not just the examples given. I should have been clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Here's one back at cha ubersaurus.... ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atarinvader Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Generaly excepted as Air Raid by Men-A-Vision from what I can gather. Only 10 known copies? I think Marco(?) had an interesting story about finding it...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIPITBULL Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Man!! how much does Air-Raid from men-A-Vision go for? About two years ago a person was selling a complete in the box Quadrun on ebay but the starting bid was $1000, which I thought was a little high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Perhaps the figure of "10 known copies" you've quoted comes from something you may have read on my Air Raid page. Note the description on that page says there are fewer than 10 copies known to exist. I was being somewhat conservative with that statement. Actually, I only know of four other collectors who claim they own the cartridge. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I own games, where I only know 1 copie. My oddities Here the 16 in 1, an overlabled 32 in 1 from Atari. Don't know who overlabled it, but there are only 16 games on it. The last 16 from the 32 in 1. The first 16 are not working. And the first one the Video Pinball cartridge. This is a selfmade (??? not 100% sure) with 8 games on it. You can choose them by the spin switch at the top. Never every see these both again. But I think thats maybe selfmade games, so they don't count. I think too Air Raid or Video Life are the rarest. I wish I own one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamashii14 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 pitfall harry, i had no idea that air raid was that rare. for curiousity's sake and an incentive to keep looking, how long ago did you find that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckandCover Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 For some reason, I had it in my head that Magicard or Video Life were the rarest carts around. I had never heard about fewer than ten copies of Air Raid being in existence. Talk about your tough finds! [ 05-20-2002: Message edited by: duckandcover ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by tamashii14: pitfall harry, i had no idea that air raid was that rare. for curiousity's sake and an incentive to keep looking, how long ago did you find that? I found Air Raid in the summer of 1998. More recently, I found Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Crazy Climber just a couple of weeks ago. So rare games are still out there to be found if you look and look and look. Though both of these carts are quite rare, neither is anywhere near the rarity of Air Raid. Nevertheless, they are very rare. What may interest you even more is that you could end up owning one of them because I am giving both carts away for free! Be sure to check out this topic thread for details. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 If I ever find a copy of Air Raid I think my heart would explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I asked this one time before with no answer. How rare is Mangia? Like going price, or known copies. I know it is much rarer than a Crazy Climber or Waterworld. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 if i ever find a copy of air raid, ill have to find a change of pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Philflound: I asked this one time before with no answer. How rare is Mangia? Like going price, or known copies. I know it is much rarer than a Crazy Climber or Waterworld. Phil The PAL version of Mangia' is quite rare but does pop up on eBay about 3 or 4 times a year. If I were to rate it on a 1 to 10 scale, I'd place it at a high 8 or a low 9. After years of careful watching, I have never seen an auction for, never met nor even heard of a single collector who, upon checking it out, could claim he owned an NTSC version of Mangia'. Maybe an NTSC proto of it exists. But personally, I do not believe SpectraVideo produced an NTSC Mangia' for commercial release. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Magicard can be considered the rarest of them all, but considering that a Magicard isn't exactly a game, from all the games available I think that Ben is right, AirRaid is next to impossible to find in the wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Eduardo: Magicard can be considered the rarest of them all, but considering that a Magicard isn't exactly a game, from all the games available I think that Ben is right, AirRaid is next to impossible to find in the wild. As far as the Commavid games are concerned, Video Life is even rarer than Magicard. Rumored production numbers vary, but they all seem to agree it was less than the number of Magicards. As for Air Raid and Video Life, I have no idea which one is rarer. I've heard about a dozen Video Lifes in the hands of collectors, but if that definitely makes Air Raid rarer, well, I think it's just impossible to tell. I just go by a top-5, in no particular order: Magicard, Air Raid, Video Life, Eli's Ladder, and Gauntlet. All incredibly rare Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 there was an auction last year from a guy in Austria for a boxed master builder, boxed mangia and a few other games. the seller did not know if they were pal or ntsc. i later asked the buyer (look.what.i.got) and he said they were NTSC. does anyone else have an NTSC version of mangia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by CincYnoTi: there was an auction last year from a guy in Austria for a boxed master builder, boxed mangia and a few other games. the seller did not know if they were pal or ntsc. i later asked the buyer (look.what.i.got) and he said they were NTSC. Possible, but quite improbable, I'd say. How would an Austrian come up with those incredibly rare NTSC versions? Perhaps the buyer just happened to have a good tv Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 If the cartridges came from Austria, then why would they be in NTSC format? PAL is the television standard there. Doesn't it make more sense that the games would be PAL? An NTSC Mangia' never turns up in North America where NTSC is the standard. So why the heck would one turn up in Austria? IF they were indeed NTSC games, then the Austrian seller would almost certainly have had to have gone through extraordinary effort to find, cajole and acquire them from another major collector who probably lived in North America, where NTSC is the standard. If that was the case, then both parties would have KNOWN the games were NTSC when they were sold to the Austrian. And the Austrian would never have said "I don't know" and he would have demanded a premium price when he finally sold them. Collectors like to believe what they have is something extraordinarily rare. Many will be satisfied that their Obelix or their Mangia' is the ultra-rare NTSC version if it passes the simplest of tests. That test is usually the "Flip" test -- plug the game into NTSC equipment and if it dosen't make the TV screen roll vertically then the game has to be NTSC. But I have several PAL games which pass the Flip Test. They do not make my TV screen roll. Some do, some don't. Some make one TV screen roll but have no affect on another. The Mangia' cartridge from my personal collection, for example, is PAL. But it passes the Flip Test on every NTSC TV I have tested it on. The fact that the Flip Test is inconclusive matters not to a collector who really wants to believe he has captured the holy grail. How reliable is the word of the buyer you know who claims his Mangia' is NTSC? How thoroughly did he check it? Ben [ 05-21-2002: Message edited by: Pitfall Harry ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opa Opa Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by moycon: I thought it was Video Life???? No??? I thought it was too? I only have one rare game, the game I love but everyone else seems to hate. Thats right, Im talking about Karate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarimastermarty Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I'm almost positive that Air Raid is rarer.Since i've been collecting i have seen 2 or 3 Video Life's on ebay. I have never seen an air raid on ebay. If youre going to CGE and you own an air raid bring it so I can drool all over it. I actually enjoyed playing some air raid on my emulator (when it was working). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarimastermarty Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 What's weird is in the "did you know" box it says the members voted Magicard the rarest 2600 game. Which it's obviously not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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