liquidcross Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Is it at all possible to get my 800XL on the internet, using the Contiki browser or whatever? What kind of hardware and/or software would I need to accomplish this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 There's really no point in browsing on your atari. Telnet and FTP are more likely. Hardware-wise if you have a modem there's a SLIP-type packetdriver...but I have never used it. Right now I am integrating a custom NIC card on my 130xe...more or less a SIO2PC style serial connection between the NIC and the atari. I have a FTP client and a network time fetch (NTP) both working in very early versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Whether ther is any point in browsing the net with an 8-bit Atari is a matter of OPINION. Personally, I'd love to surf with my 8-bit, even if it's only text based. Contiki IS the way to go too. But right now, Contiki (at least for the 8-bit) does not allow PPP internet access, so using a modem and your local dial-up internet provider is out of the question. The only way (currently) to use Contiki with the 8-bit to surf is through your PC with a broadband connection, using A.P.E/SIO2PC to connect the Atari to your PC and use your PC's broadband modem with A.P.E's Atari modem emulator. I only have dial-up PPP connection, so I haven't done this yet. I'm hoping that a PPP version of Contiki comes along soon, then all it would take is connecting your Atari to a standard dial-up modem and connecting to your dial-up internet provider, just like a PC. I have my 800 all set up in this way just waiting for a PPP compatible Contiki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcross Posted January 28, 2006 Author Share Posted January 28, 2006 Whether ther is any point in browsing the net with an 8-bit Atari is a matter of OPINION. Personally, I'd love to surf with my 8-bit, even if it's only text based. Contiki IS the way to go too. But right now, Contiki (at least for the 8-bit) does not allow PPP internet access, so using a modem and your local dial-up internet provider is out of the question. The only way (currently) to use Contiki with the 8-bit to surf is through your PC with a broadband connection, using A.P.E/SIO2PC to connect the Atari to your PC and use your PC's broadband modem with A.P.E's Atari modem emulator. I only have dial-up PPP connection, so I haven't done this yet. I'm hoping that a PPP version of Contiki comes along soon, then all it would take is connecting your Atari to a standard dial-up modem and connecting to your dial-up internet provider, just like a PC. I have my 800 all set up in this way just waiting for a PPP compatible Contiki. 1008255[/snapback] Dammit. I still haven't gotten APE or similar software to work properly on my Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Whether ther is any point in browsing the net with an 8-bit Atari is a matter of OPINION. Personally, I'd love to surf with my 8-bit, even if it's only text based. Contiki IS the way to go too. But right now, Contiki (at least for the 8-bit) does not allow PPP internet access, so using a modem and your local dial-up internet provider is out of the question. The only way (currently) to use Contiki with the 8-bit to surf is through your PC with a broadband connection, using A.P.E/SIO2PC to connect the Atari to your PC and use your PC's broadband modem with A.P.E's Atari modem emulator. I only have dial-up PPP connection, so I haven't done this yet. I'm hoping that a PPP version of Contiki comes along soon, then all it would take is connecting your Atari to a standard dial-up modem and connecting to your dial-up internet provider, just like a PC. I have my 800 all set up in this way just waiting for a PPP compatible Contiki. 1008255[/snapback] Dammit. I still haven't gotten APE or similar software to work properly on my Mac. 1008257[/snapback] then go to your local Goodwill/thrift/swapmeet/used computer stor, etc and pick up a dirt cheap old PC that runs Windows 3.1 or 95/98, you don't need much, just to get A.P.E working. It'll be a dedicated PC just to be a file server/net access for your Atari. An old laptop would work too, and save on space. I have my XL/XE's connected to my usual PC with SIO2PC& A.P.E, but I also have a PS/1 486 with windows 3.1/MS-dos connected to my 800 via A.P.E DOS version as strictly a file server for the 800. I picked it up for $10 at the local community thrift store. But if I wanted, I could still connect that old PC to my phone line too (not of much use until a PPP protocal becomes available for Contiki). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 thats why my old pentium 1, 233 mhz 64 mb ram windows 98 laptop is used for...as a simple file archive system for sio2pc and xf1541... but never tried to surf the net over the virtual modem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcross Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 thats why my old pentium 1, 233 mhz 64 mb ram windows 98 laptop is used for...as a simple file archive system for sio2pc and xf1541... but never tried to surf the net over the virtual modem... 1008402[/snapback] A cheap laptop would indeed be nice...not quite sure where to find on around here, though...ebay's kind of a ripoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdrew Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 A cheap laptop would indeed be nice...not quite sure where to find on around here, though...ebay's kind of a ripoff. 1008736[/snapback] Ahem... I'll post this publicly in case anyone else is interested, but liquidcross gets first dibs. I have some old laptops I'd like to sell on the cheap. They're: Compaq LTE 5280 Compaq LTE 5250 Compaq LTE 5300 (includes original Compaq case and car adapter) The AC adapter for one of them has stopped working - I don't remember which. That's the only problem I recall. I'll give everything a once-over and provide any interested parties with a status report. I'd like to get around $50 for each of these, and maybe a little more for the 5300 ($60?). Shipping would be from Indianapolis. If you're interested, send me a PM. Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcross Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 PM sent, jdrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcross Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Just out of curiosity...what kind of modem(s) would I use with my 800XL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I use debian and lynx running on an old PC and Ice-T running on my ATARI for browsing the net via sio2pc ... bad: -the browser isn't really running on an ATARI -you need a PC running good: -you can browser via ATARI -you can do anything that's possible on a LINUX-PC Mirko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 (edited) What do you browse? You mean Telnet sites? Or do you have a lynx running on the Atari? Edited February 1, 2006 by danwinslow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernoid Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 What do you browse? You mean Telnet sites? Or do you have a lynx running on the Atari? 1010937[/snapback] It sounds like he uses the Atari as a dumb terminal to a Linux PC. I use to do this via APE... you can run Lynx, Pine, Elm, Telnet IRC, etc on the Linux PC and view it on the Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 It sounds like he uses the Atari as a dumb terminal to a Linux PC. This is exactly what I do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 It sounds like he uses the Atari as a dumb terminal to a Linux PC. This is exactly what I do... 1011494[/snapback] Ok. I love 8bit Atari's, but why in particular would you do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 First, I want to impress some friends, who think, LINUX is running on that old ATARI machine... Second, I don't have to move between two places (PC <-> ATARI), if I want to surf a little... Third, I can hear, if someone enters the IRC-Channel (I/O-Sound) Fourth, I have no other monitor connected to my debian LINUX machine. And last, why shouldn't I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I didn't say you shouldn't. I just asked why. You answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernoid Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 First, I want to impress some friends, who think, LINUX is running on that old ATARI machine...Second, I don't have to move between two places (PC <-> ATARI), if I want to surf a little... Third, I can hear, if someone enters the IRC-Channel (I/O-Sound) Fourth, I have no other monitor connected to my debian LINUX machine. And last, why shouldn't I? 1011992[/snapback] Very cool. I actually have debian running on my TT030 and use the 8bit as a terminal to the TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcross Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Very cool. I actually have debian running on my TT030 and use the 8bit as a terminal to the TT. 1012087[/snapback] Most impressive! I'm in the process of looking at Linux distros, to see which one will run best on old crappy PCs. Red Hat's obviously out of the running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Dan, Are you still working on your (SIO-2-)Ethernet board? Regards, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Whether ther is any point in browsing the net with an 8-bit Atari is a matter of OPINION. Personally, I'd love to surf with my 8-bit, even if it's only text based. Contiki IS the way to go too. But right now, Contiki (at least for the 8-bit) does not allow PPP internet access, so using a modem and your local dial-up internet provider is out of the question. The only way (currently) to use Contiki with the 8-bit to surf is through your PC with a broadband connection, using A.P.E/SIO2PC to connect the Atari to your PC and use your PC's broadband modem with A.P.E's Atari modem emulator. I only have dial-up PPP connection, so I haven't done this yet. I'm hoping that a PPP version of Contiki comes along soon, then all it would take is connecting your Atari to a standard dial-up modem and connecting to your dial-up internet provider, just like a PC. I have my 800 all set up in this way just waiting for a PPP compatible Contiki. 1008255[/snapback] Dammit. I still haven't gotten APE or similar software to work properly on my Mac. 1008257[/snapback] Are you aware of this for OS X? http://members.cox.net/atarimac/Sio2OSX.html Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcross Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Are you aware of this for OS X? http://members.cox.net/atarimac/Sio2OSX.html Allan 1013872[/snapback] I was not! I'll have to try that out. Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) Dan, Are you still working on your (SIO-2-)Ethernet board? Regards, Mark Yep. Making progress, too. I got held up learning 6502 assembler and writing a high speed IO routine; the actual library dev should go a lot faster now. http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83097 Edited February 6, 2006 by danwinslow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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