Songbird Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 As mentioned in my other thread from a few minutes ago, I was running out of Protector boxes so it was time to get new ones printed. This was great because finally the Protector SE box and manual match the game completely! (I did not change the labels since I still have hundreds of stickers on hand, however.) As many of you may know, I quit producing the original Protector when Prot SE was released, since Prot SE is (in my opinion) a superior game and I wanted Jaguar fans to know their original Protector carts would hold some value by limiting the run while offering Prot SE on an unlimited basis. However, over the years I have received several requests to produce more original Protector carts, which I have declined until now. I have about two dozen original Protector boxes left. I have no plans as far as I can see to ever reprint these boxes. So, I am offering the fans one last chance to order an original Protector game cartridge complete with box and manual. This is identical to the Protector game released in 1999. The price is $69.95 plus shipping, just like it was in 1999 for those who pre-ordered the Songbird games. If you would like to order one, please add your name to this thread. If at least a dozen people sign up, I will make one last run of carts in the next couple of months. Let me know if you have any questions. And long live the Jaguar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanadium Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 As mentioned in my other thread from a few minutes ago, I was running out of Protector boxes so it was time to get new ones printed. This was great because finally the Protector SE box and manual match the game completely! (I did not change the labels since I still have hundreds of stickers on hand, however.) As many of you may know, I quit producing the original Protector when Prot SE was released, since Prot SE is (in my opinion) a superior game and I wanted Jaguar fans to know their original Protector carts would hold some value by limiting the run while offering Prot SE on an unlimited basis. However, over the years I have received several requests to produce more original Protector carts, which I have declined until now. I have about two dozen original Protector boxes left. I have no plans as far as I can see to ever reprint these boxes. So, I am offering the fans one last chance to order an original Protector game cartridge complete with box and manual. This is identical to the Protector game released in 1999. The price is $69.95 plus shipping, just like it was in 1999 for those who pre-ordered the Songbird games. If you would like to order one, please add your name to this thread. If at least a dozen people sign up, I will make one last run of carts in the next couple of months. Let me know if you have any questions. And long live the Jaguar! 1013875[/snapback] Yes. I'll take one in the next couple of months, guaranteed. (With any luck, I'll be taking a couple of others as well. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I am deffinately interested. What are the main differences between the two, from the depths of my mind I recall SE being a bit easier than the original? Was there much of a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Feel free to browse the "Project" pages on Songbird for screenshots & other comparisons, but basically the original Protector was a harder game, although you could select Easy, Medium, or Hard for 10, 15, and 25 waves respectively. It also included an easter egg "Insanity" wave which was one insanely difficult (and unending) wave where you just compete for high score. Prot SE of course introduced some new features, such as 16-bit graphics on special screens, JagFree CD, one integrated set of 40 waves, new music, new audio, etc. If you're looking for a big challenge gameplay-wise, the original Protector has got some extremely tough levels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hello Carl, So, I am offering the fans one last chance to order an original Protector game cartridge complete with box and manual. This is identical to the Protector game released in 1999. The price is $69.95 plus shipping, just like it was in 1999 for those who pre-ordered the Songbird games. If you would like to order one, please add your name to this thread. If at least a dozen people sign up, I will make one last run of carts in the next couple of months. Let me know if you have any questions. And long live the Jaguar! Yes, a question. Will these Protectors be the same physically as the original Protectors, or share more in common with the Protector SE cartridges? i.e. will they include the hardware to do the encryption/validation bypass, or will they be normally encrypted or use the universal encryption/validation header? On that note, are there differences between Protector SE's too? Are some using the universal header and others using a game specific header? It's probably an interesting point for collectors. For me, I'm more interested in the reply for technical geeky development reasons, and just as a gamer. Regards, JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory DG Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 This is identical to the Protector game released in 1999. Holy cow! Has it been that long already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztee Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I am deffinately interested. What are the main differences between the two, from the depths of my mind I recall SE being a bit easier than the original? Was there much of a difference? Do I have to bring these on Sunday too???? It's the easiest way to spot the difference!! Gaztee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 it's upto you squire. Dunno really it's nice to have a suprise when I get my own copy, so only if you want to bring it. I have SE already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABombjoy Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Sign me up - I'll take 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Will these Protectors be the same physically as the original Protectors, orshare more in common with the Protector SE cartridges? i.e. will they include the hardware to do the encryption/validation bypass, or will they be normally encrypted or use the universal encryption/validation header? On that note, are there differences between Protector SE's too? Are some using the universal header and others using a game specific header? 1014043[/snapback] Hi, Richard, I won't be using any hardware bypass for cartridges like I did in the old days. So I guess from that standpoint, the game binary will be "different" since it will include the encryption header. However the "game" binary is 100% the same with no changes to graphics, audio, gameplay, etc. I stress that point only because I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to release a third edition of Protector here. Encryption change notwithstanding, this is the same Protector game. All Prot SEs to date use the same encryption header. I had thought about making some minor alterations to Prot SE a year or two back but have not done so yet. One obvious change (which I may still do some day) is to get rid of the 93c86 and put in the regular 93c46 since I don't expect any CD game to ever use the extra EEPROM space. This would actually help me reduce costs by having fewer part differences between games, but it does require a code change of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 How will we know that the magic number has been reached ? emails? PM's ? and damn you!!! I am trying to save pennies! I need to buy new bits for my bike (which I bent yesterday in a .. erm.. rotational pivot experiment ) damn this acursed community and it's shiny offerings!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 How will we know that the magic number has been reached ? emails? PM's ? 1014085[/snapback] I will be sure to let everyone know when I'm doing the final run. I've received a couple of emails on this as well, but so far it's only looking like a half dozen folks are interested... so it may be a couple of months before I get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Thats cool, gives me a bit of time to save some pennies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I'd like to sign up for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanadium Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) I can vouch for how good this game is since I've owned it before. If you don't have it and love the gameplay of Defender, you're really missing out if you don't get in on this. I sold my first copy long ago and regretted it. :/ Edited February 9, 2006 by vanadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isgoed Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Just a question, is Protector really different then Protector SE gameplay wise? And when looking at the screenshots, the original Protector backgrounds seem to look more realistic than SE, while SE looks more colorful.... I own Protector SE, but I was wondering if it's worth to buy the original one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 Just a question, is Protector really different then Protector SE gameplay wise?And when looking at the screenshots, the original Protector backgrounds seem to look more realistic than SE, while SE looks more colorful.... I own Protector SE, but I was wondering if it's worth to buy the original one 1016466[/snapback] In general Protector is the more difficult game. Protector SE gets really hard in Waves 30-40, but Protector is just hard in general. The powerups are priced differently between the two games. And Protector has an Insanity wave which is really devious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I want some...undecided if I want one or a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+retrogmr Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Put me down for a copy as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Based on the notes here and a few emails I have received, it looks like there is enough interest to do this. It will be a couple of months before I have everything ready, but stay tuned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 I have not forgotten about this, however the final run is not ready, either. Back in the spring, we found a problem which caused Protector to not boot on the newer cart design we're using, and I have not had time to rebuild the code with the fix. BUT next week I am setting aside some time to hook up the ol' dev kit and hopefully get this resolved without too much trouble. And who knows, maybe I'll have time to work on my smaller Mystery Project while I'm at it... Bottom line, please contact me if you are interested in a final run of original Protector carts. Once I run out of packaging, I have no plans to ever produce this cartridge again (I will continue to build Prot SE carts however). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredifredo Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 very strange problem ! I'm a padawan but the only real problem I know, is at the begining of the rom at $400, the data must be changed if it uses 8 bit 16 bit or 32 bits roms ! for 32 bit it's 04040404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 The problem I referred to is actually a video boot problem - there was a bug in the video boot sequence in the original Protector carts, and apparently the hardware bypass we used when building the carts mostly masked the code bug. But now that we're using real encryption, the bug has reared its ugly head once again. So, I just need a few hours of dedicated time to test the fix, and then I can move forward with the cart run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1280 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 The problem I referred to is actually a video boot problem - there was a bug in the video boot sequence in the original Protector carts, and apparently the hardware bypass we used when building the carts mostly masked the code bug. But now that we're using real encryption, the bug has reared its ugly head once again. So, I just need a few hours of dedicated time to test the fix, and then I can move forward with the cart run. I sent you a PM. I dont know if you got it or not but im interested in an original copy of Protector. Thanks Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashalley Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I have not forgotten about this, however the final run is not ready, either. Back in the spring, we found a problem which caused Protector to not boot on the newer cart design we're using, and I have not had time to rebuild the code with the fix. BUT next week I am setting aside some time to hook up the ol' dev kit and hopefully get this resolved without too much trouble. And who knows, maybe I'll have time to work on my smaller Mystery Project while I'm at it... Bottom line, please contact me if you are interested in a final run of original Protector carts. Once I run out of packaging, I have no plans to ever produce this cartridge again (I will continue to build Prot SE carts however). Any word on this? I've faithfully been waiting since sending you my email awhile back! Cheers, Will M. (shakemeawake@fastmail.fm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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