Bill Brasky Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Is there one at all? If so, is it easy to use for a novice C-64 user? A lot of C-64 emu's and products just assume that you grew up with the C-64 and know how to use it by heart. Can disk/tape based software run from the cart or be easily converted to do so? Price/links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacbthPSW Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Not as far as I know. Cartridge based games weren't nearly as popular on the C-64 as they were on the A8, or even the VIC-20, so there wouldn't be a whole lot of games to use on it if it did exist, maybe just a few hundred. Perhaps the closest thing would be the MMC64 which allows near instant loading of most single-load games (games which do not access the disk drive again once they've loaded). This leaves out many great C-64 games, but includes many other great ones, so it's not a bad device. There still isn't a complete substitute for a real 1541 drive, though a few projects are close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 some recent discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieAtari Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Have a look at this great (Australian) site - www.64hdd.com, this maybe as close as you will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 There's more C64 carts than Vic20 ones btw (roughly double from my collection lists, and that's just the games) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacbthPSW Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 There's more C64 carts than Vic20 ones btw Ah, interesting. I guess I could argue that game carts are more *popular* on the VIC-20 even if not as many titles were published, but I won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I loved carts on the C64, no load time kicks ass (well, as close as a computer could come to it anyways) Is there any reason a cart couldn't have a disc game put in it? Other than carts tended to autolaod on powerup, but couldn't you wright a bit of software to kick it into a select screen to pick a game or something anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacbthPSW Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Is there any reason a cart couldn't have a disc game put in it? Other than carts tended to autolaod on powerup, but couldn't you wright a bit of software to kick it into a select screen to pick a game or something anyways? It's not impossible, but a varying amount of work would have to be done to any given game to get it to run from cart. Single-file disk games would be easiest... built into the menu program in the cartridge would have to be a copy routine which copied the game from cart memory into the C-64's main 64k of RAM, and then it would start like normal. This is essentially how the C-64 DTV (30 games-in-1 stick) works. Well behaved or properly cracked multi-load games could also be made to work by modifying the kernal (C-64 O.S.) to intercept calls to load from the disk drive, and transfer the file from cartridge ROM. This is also what the DTV does. But you couldn't make a general purpose C-64 cart that would be able to run every C-64 game, without modifying many of the games to be well-behaved with it. This is basically what people have done for the IDE64 cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brasky Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 How can I tell which games will work with MMC64 without actually trying them? Is there a compatability list online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacbthPSW Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 How can I tell which games will work with MMC64 without actually trying them? Is there a compatability list online? Any game that's just a single C-64 (PRG) file will work. So, if a file is already in .prg format, it's good to go. If it's a .t64 file, the .prg inside it can be extracted easily with a program like Star Commander. If it's a .d64, you'll have to "look inside" it with Star Commander or VICE (when you're attaching a disk image, you can view the disk directory) and if there's only a single file, you're *probably* okay (though there's some cases where a disk will just have a single C= DOS file listed, and the game uses it's own custom file format for the rest of the game on disk - those ones won't work on MMC64). I don't think there's a compatability list since there are thousands of games that will work with the MMC64... but also thousands of games that won't. BTW, Paul Slocum did a bit of a review of the MMC64 in his blog... http://www.qotile.net/blog/wp/?p=163 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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