Rom Hunter Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Still one of the coolest looking carts for the 2600 It sure is. Good luck with putting it back together and many thanks for showing us the chip, sylabyss. Too bad the true origins of this cart still remains a mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Will we ever know Still one of the coolest looking carts for the 2600 Now to reverse engineer this puppy back to its original state! I warned you that it would prove nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 CPUWIZ, Is that 2732 chip more common on (brazilian) pirate carts? Do these appear often? Yes, Brazillian carts are notorious for having EPROM's inside them, also found in Apollo and Spectravision, as well as every TXCSM and Halloween and several other ones randomly. It actually proves nothing. CPUWIZ, Did any of these companies use that exact chip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 so what game is on the 'god' cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) One major problem with the PAL theory, I believe it has never been found outside the USA !! It was probably made by some company in another company but mostly for the USA. Someone please explain this fact....has anyone found one outside of the USA or Canada (NTSC Country) !!!!! Edited November 10, 2008 by sly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beard Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 so what game is on the 'god' cart? If memory serves, it's Ms. Pac-Man (of all things), but then, my memory's been known to... well... not serve? So you can take my memories with a grain of salt until a real PAL collector confirms or denies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 One major problem with the PAL theory, I believe it has never been found outside the USA !! It was probably made by some company in another company but mostly for the USA. Someone please explain this fact....has anyone found one outside of the USA or Canada (NTSC Country) !!!!! If my memory serves correct (it usually doesn't), one Ebay seller in the US claimed that he got it from someone who originally got it from Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user42 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 (edited) so what game is on the 'god' cart? If memory serves, it's Ms. Pac-Man (of all things), but then, my memory's been known to... well... not serve? So you can take my memories with a grain of salt until a real PAL collector confirms or denies. Yeah that's what I heard too...Ms. Pac-Man. Edited November 11, 2008 by user42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 (edited) yes, god is a woman! (not eddie) here is a little poster for everyone that lost the hope to find either air raid or god (the zip file contains a bigger version of the image for full size printing) AtariPowerslave.zip Edited November 11, 2008 by jahfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 One major problem with the PAL theory, I believe it has never been found outside the USA !! It was probably made by some company in another company but mostly for the USA. Someone please explain this fact....has anyone found one outside of the USA or Canada (NTSC Country) !!!!! If my memory serves correct (it usually doesn't), one Ebay seller in the US claimed that he got it from someone who originally got it from Mexico. I never heard that. One ages ago when I first started I believe the owner was from Canada but I am unsure whether he bought it from a US seller or what. Everyone that has been found has come from the USA via Ebay. One of the members here found it in Washington. I have never seen anything close to the t-handle shape from any other country. If anyone has anything on Mexico let us know, but I think they have been the junkyard for some games like Obelix, Asterix, Quadruns, but never Air Raid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I am sure one of the ebay sellers said he found it at a mexico garage sale. anotherwas found in california which has a lot of boarder jumpers. My money is on mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 i start thinking that this was an insider job from Gameline/AOL in order to create more internet traffic and cash in ... first they created the internet, then spam, then air raid it didn't come from mexico ... it came straight out silicon valley ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 From what I have read in the forums.....all of the Air Raids have been found only in the US. Let's do a quick survey.....to all Air Raid owners, where did you buy yours from???? Let me start off with the two I obtained..... the first one I got it from Tenessee/Arkansas (don't remember which state) and the second one I believe was from Delaware or Maryland.....don't remember which state either but it was one of those two. How about the other Air Raid owners??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 got mine from pitfall harry who got his in a thrift in California. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I am sure one of the ebay sellers said he found it at a mexico garage sale. anotherwas found in california which has a lot of boarder jumpers. My money is on mexico That's what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I am sure one of the ebay sellers said he found it at a mexico garage sale. anotherwas found in california which has a lot of boarder jumpers. My money is on mexico That's what I remember. It was in this thread: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...t&p=1070114 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 CPUWIZ, Is that 2732 chip more common on (brazilian) pirate carts? Do these appear often? Yes, Brazillian carts are notorious for having EPROM's inside them, also found in Apollo and Spectravision, as well as every TXCSM and Halloween and several other ones randomly. It actually proves nothing. CPUWIZ, Did any of these companies use that exact chip? Sorry for the late reply, I have seen them in Spectravision boards before. Tigervision for instance, used Texas Instruments EPROM's exclusively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 (edited) I am sure one of the ebay sellers said he found it at a mexico garage sale. anotherwas found in california which has a lot of boarder jumpers. My money is on mexico That's what I remember. It was in this thread: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...t&p=1070114 The guy's answer in Georgia was unclear. Besides, I have never heard of an Air Raid transaction directly from Mexico. None of the 10 or so Air Raids have come from Mexico, maybe only Syllabus'.....Maybe the game was made in San Diego or L.A. and it went to Mexico.......mathematically a lot more (if not all of them) have been found in the U.S. of A than Mexico or any other country. And............the mystery continues... Edited November 11, 2008 by Wonder007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I am sure one of the ebay sellers said he found it at a mexico garage sale. anotherwas found in california which has a lot of boarder jumpers. My money is on mexico That's what I remember. It was in this thread: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...t&p=1070114 That's the thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I am sure one of the ebay sellers said he found it at a mexico garage sale. anotherwas found in california which has a lot of boarder jumpers. My money is on mexico That's what I remember. It was in this thread: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...t&p=1070114 The guy's answer in Georgia was unclear. Besides, I have never heard of an Air Raid transaction directly from Mexico. None of the 10 or so Air Raids have come from Mexico, maybe only Syllabus'.....Maybe the game was made in San Diego or L.A. and it went to Mexico.......mathematically a lot more (if not all of them) have been found in the U.S. of A. And............the mystery continues... On the contrary, it was pretty clear - he was asked where he got it and he replied - Mexico. The point was not to argue that the game is mexican, but to respond to Sly's question about a copy never having come from outside the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well, semantically, it is not clear but maybe you are right. Still though, one Air Raid vs. nine or more found in the USA....if they were produced in Mexico, I think it would be the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well, semantically, it is not clear but maybe you are right. Still though, one Air Raid vs. nine or more found in the USA....if they were produced in Mexico, I think it would be the opposite. How many Taiwanese produced pirates can be found in Taiwan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well, semantically, it is not clear but maybe you are right. Still though, one Air Raid vs. nine or more found in the USA....if they were produced in Mexico, I think it would be the opposite. How many Taiwanese produced pirates can be found in Taiwan? Good question. Anybody know the answer to that question............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well, semantically, it is not clear but maybe you are right. Still though, one Air Raid vs. nine or more found in the USA....if they were produced in Mexico, I think it would be the opposite. How many Taiwanese produced pirates can be found in Taiwan? Good question. Anybody know the answer to that question............ very few and mostly only some that we have rarely or simply not seen anywhere else (see picture) .... i have lived a year in china and couldn't find a single atari cart when i was there ... taiwanese Bit Corpration has even used various company names for their releases like Puzzy (derivated from their chinese name Pu Se). On a chinese blog, a friend of mine read that they have even tried to pass as a korean company to probably avoid legal trouble. and they are probably also the producers of many other "companies"/labels like homevision, goliath, funvision and other taiwanese "brands" or products like the quelle carts ... "western" brands like bomb, zimag, raimbowvision, suntek or homevision have so much similarities (same release orders, same games with different logos, etc ...) that it seems kind of obvious that they probably come from the same source .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well, semantically, it is not clear but maybe you are right. Still though, one Air Raid vs. nine or more found in the USA....if they were produced in Mexico, I think it would be the opposite. Has anyone really looked for them in mexico? Look at the flood of silver label games now that they found out people actually pay for this old stuff. Is it possible that air raid is sitting in quite a few garage sales in mexico but nobody knows its value? The 10 or so that made it over here could just be a fraction of what is to come, just a theory. Does anyone know of any collectors that live in mexico? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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