candle Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Flemming, stop blaming incognito, start replacing pokey and pia chips in your 800 it is common failure for pokey to have serial line fryed and generating perfect sound nevertheless my does work with 810 and 1050 i have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yes the SIO2SD works with my NTSC Atari 800XL. Also, I just found my old Atari 1050 disk drive, and tried it with my Atari 800 Incognito, and it will not boot anything; still just saying "138 Device does not respond". So it looks like anything SIO related does not work on my Incognito :/ @FastRobPlus: Does real floppy disks work on your Incognito? Could you try boot at game or some other software using your disk drive with a floppy? Did you set up the partitions on your CF Card and assign one of them as Drive "A"? That would mess it up like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandenivoldsk Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Flemming, stop blaming incognito, start replacing pokey and pia chips in your 800 it is common failure for pokey to have serial line fryed and generating perfect sound nevertheless my does work with 810 and 1050 i have Sorry candle, I'm not trying to badmouth Incognito. I will try replacing the chips. Does anyone know where to get fresh pokey and pia chips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 On another note, today I finally soldered the Halt and Ready Lines to my CPU Board and wired up the Disk Switch & I/O Indicator, ran the Bios-Update from the SIO2SD which completed as it should and my Cartridge Games still work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Flemming, best you could use one from your 800xl if you have such, it would be simplest way to do and please check what Jay wrote - best is to remove CF card and disable side hardware in incognito menu (i have strange feeling of writing this before) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandenivoldsk Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Ok, I will try and get a spare XL for the chips. If anyone have one, that they don't use or the chips, please let me know. Once I get the chips, I will follow Jays guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 oh but why you insist on buying extra stuff? you can't do any bad to another pokey chip just by swapping it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandenivoldsk Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Ah, ok. I will try that then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastRobPlus Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yes the SIO2SD works with my NTSC Atari 800XL. Also, I just found my old Atari 1050 disk drive, and tried it with my Atari 800 Incognito, and it will not boot anything; still just saying "138 Device does not respond". So it looks like anything SIO related does not work on my Incognito :/ @FastRobPlus: Does real floppy disks work on your Incognito? Could you try boot at game or some other software using your disk drive with a floppy? I can confirm that real floppies work with my Incognito. I can load anything when auto-booting and I can browse files when I have SDX enabled. I don't know enough about SDX to be able to do anything other than call up a DIR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastRobPlus Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 So... I've got an 800 with Incognitio, an 800 without an incognitio, SIO cables, 3 tape drives, two floppy drives, floppy disks, a CF card, a USB CF card reader for my Amiga, a drinking straw, and a light gun. Using these things, is there any way I can transfer the incognitio bios ATR file to the tape or floppies so I can flash the bios and play Space Harrier from Cart? Or will I have to buy a one-time use SIO-to-something adapter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodLightning Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 So... I've got an 800 with Incognitio, an 800 without an incognitio, SIO cables, 3 tape drives, two floppy drives, floppy disks, a CF card, a USB CF card reader for my Amiga, a driking straw, and a light gun. Using these things, is there any way I can transfer the incognitio bios ATR file to the tape or floppies so I can flash the bios and play Space Harrier from Cart? Or will I have to buy a one-time use SIO-to-something adapter? I'm curious about this also. I was thinking that mounting the ATR file as D1 and setting a connected 1050 FDD as D2 would allow a sector copy of the disk onto a real 5.25 floppy disk? Can ATR disk images from the CF and a real floppy drive unit be accessed at the same time when using incognito? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 i've diagnosed issue with bios-update not taking place when loaded from internal loader this is due to small mistake in vhdl rom mapper process code preventing anything else than loader virtual cartridge to be mapped once it was enabled due to bios bootup sequence i'm working on improoved version of bios-update utility that would show what is doing instead of leaving end user wondering what has happend, but right now i cannnot post anything (just bricked my incognito while flashing ) bottom line: if you don't want to or can't update JED inside CPLD chip then just use SIO device to make that upgrade, if you can - i'll post updated JED file together with bios-update.xex soon, perhaps tomorrow there are no compatibility issues for incognito living with that bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thanks for the work candle I can update the CPLD itself directly if needed, so I can take a look if it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastRobPlus Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 BUMP for my request to buy a disk with the executable BIOS file on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 BUMP for my request to buy a disk with the executable BIOS file on it. If you want to send me your working Incognito board, I'll update your CPLD for you. Then in the future, you can use the bios updates from your CF Card... Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Just as a follow-up, I'm looking for the installation instruction guide link(s), and do we have a complete install notes for everything that needs to be done? I'm just getting around to my install and after reading the post wonder if I should (since I want to make sure I have a complete instruction set). Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Got iced in today so I installed the Incogneto I've had since last year. Got the Incogneto screen up fine, and once I figure out fdisk I will be even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Well thanks for a weekend of ice in Dallas, TX I had more than enough time to finally install my Incogneto in a parts 800. Had some fun time already playing with the new Ice-T with ANSI COLOR (which is what finally pushed me from a stock 800 with Flickerterm) and played a lot of games from the sIDE loader. Been a blast, and would like to thank the following people and their advice that made it all possible: FlashJazzCat - Fdisk helpPanther - Keyboard problem help My friends from the Atari IRC group:mos6581a8isa1joey_zSJCardensloopy And most of all:MoparStephen with his ongoing advice and these pictures which showed me what needed to be done.http://www.flickr.com/photos/75619516@N06/sets/72157629855929494/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Very nice! Glad I could help. It's always good to see another 800 back in action. I hope to get an Incognito before too long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 Excellent! Glad to see it's up and running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragos Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Nice Clu, glad you got it working! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Nice Clu, glad you got it working! Thanks all! Got three questions at this point: 1) Is the opening menu supposed to save the settings put in the menu the previous boot up? Does the battery help retain that? 2) Similiar question to #1, but about time. Do you set the time with the TIME and DATE commands in SpartaDos? 3) I understand there is a ATR loader in later revisions of the Incogneto. Also heard the board can be reflashed to have that option. Who can do the reflashing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ANS: #! Yes with the 'S' option and the battery does control this. ANS #2 Yes from SDX either manually or an App. like ASPECL TS from the ASPEQT PC program. ANS #3 Yes the latest Incognito.jed should be flashed for this ... Don't know of anyone local to you for a flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Rice Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 maybe, I need to get my lazy ass up and install my incognito. Well thanks for a weekend of ice in Dallas, TX I had more than enough time to finally install my Incogneto in a parts 800. Had some fun time already playing with the new Ice-T with ANSI COLOR (which is what finally pushed me from a stock 800 with Flickerterm) and played a lot of games from the sIDE loader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 maybe, I need to get my lazy ass up and install my incognito. Well, those of us with Warerat's mod had a little less incentive I was actually quite happy with the stock beige 800 but then along came Ice-T with the color ANSI and that internal flash drive came in handy as well as XL/XE upgrade. So yeh I got a parts 800 together and went at it. If you are not one that solders all the time, give yourself about a day, pace yourself, and look over those pictures that Mopar posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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