82-T/A Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 A lot of the kinds of games mentioned in this thread, probably made by a team of 5 or more professionals with a year or more of paid employment to invest in them, are simply beyond what's reasonable to expect of the part-time 1 and 2-man teams currently making things for the Jaguar. Some of them are well beyond what the system is even capable of or at best border on "might technically be possible if we do this, this and this instead of this..." kind of scenarios. There's enough time and effort been wasted on what-ifs and what-should-bes concerning Jaguar over the years and it results in nothing productive or positive... that's why these threads are often interesting only in that they show what old games people enjoyed on other platforms (usually PCs with way more resources than a simple Jaguar games console with a 4mb cartridge popped in) compared to what anyone will actually ever produce for our Jaguar. The ones I posted are all older games... like Ultrabots. It was re-released on a CD, but when it first came out, it was on two 1.44" floppy disks. I still have that game, and actually play it on a 386 DX-40 that I have hooked up to my KVM, so the Jaguar certainly can handle that game. Same with Realms... But I certainly understand the difficulting that it would probably take in programming since they're made for completely different chips. I would just love to have those games on the console... there's just something about playing a game on the Jag as apposed to a keyboard / computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqoon Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I, Robot in all its 80's arcade splendor. Say it can be done on Jag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Günther Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Amiga games would be much harder to convert than ST ones because one would have to rewrite a lot of the custom chip code. Full ACK; IIRC when Cannon Fodder and Nebulus were published for S60, they took the Atari code and the Amiga sound for this very reason. So creating Turrican type games on the Jaguar would most probably mean taking the ST game apart and then improving on that version (e.g. adding better scrolling, more colours, levels/adversaries from other Turrican versions, etc.). Edited January 25, 2013 by Thorsten Günther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Actually, Turrican uses a few ST tricks and it would be quite difficult to port. If a porting effort is to be made I'd go for lighter but great ST games that don't try to do any clever tricks. But I think CJ will be better to tell you which ones those are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Zool 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I always wanted more arcade conversions for this console. To me Atari consoles were synonymous with their arcade games. Games like Area 51 and Maximum Force which we know the Jaguar can handle. Hard Drivin/Race Drivin, Pit Fighter, Road Riot, Xybots and if they wanted to be really ambitious San Fransisco Rush and War: Final Assault. Arcade conversions is where Atari really dropped the ball with the Jaguar, aside from a very small amount of updated titles. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) I think Jill of the Jingle would look amazing on the Jaguar Even Rex Nebular would be cool too. Edited January 28, 2013 by Mark T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Günther Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I always wanted more arcade conversions for this console. Could the Jag run this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masematte Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 i would play a game like DK , or other Old School Arcade Versions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Could the Jag run this? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hafnDoApzpY[/media] I think the Jag could do far better even and really, if you wanted something like that you could just look the way of Battlesphere but that's a rich man's game I, Robot in all its 80's arcade splendor. Say it can be done on Jag. I'm really surprised it hasn't been redone yet ,I think it's one of the cooler untapped potentials for a remake, especially since you don't ever really see or hear about it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACrystal2011 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=3400 Abuse http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=225 Banshee http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=1179 Fightin Spirit http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=1407 Gloom Deluxe http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=1783 Gaurdian http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=2995 Virocop http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=2140 Whizz http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=1133 Wings http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=135 Battle Squadron http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=3299 UFO: Enemy Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If you're talking about Amiga games, you might as well include some of the big hitters: Agony Shadow of the Beast Lemmings ...as well as anything else by Psygnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 ...as well as anything else by Psygnosis. Microcosm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Microcosm? Sure, why not? The Jag could handle it easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop2 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I still want a home version of Escape from the planet of the Robot Monsters. Sure there was that ST release I believe but the videos I have seen of it weren't as impressive as the arcade game was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Every console back then had a wing commander, and I've always thought that jag could probably do them better than the other consoles since its got a cd addon and a controller that allows for the mapping of more complex functions. Which is why my vote goes for: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Günther Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Uh - the Wing Commander games have aged exceptionally bad IMHO due to their usage of bitmapped sprites instead of polygons, resulting in very choppy objects. And the aforementioned SotB is not even among the best 100 games for the Amiga (the developers definitely chose style over substance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Arcade conversions is where Atari really dropped the ball with the Jaguar, aside from a very small amount of updated titles. Absolutely. All those 1993 arcade games that were getting such toned-down SNES and Genesis ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACrystal2011 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Ultima 6,7,8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thucom Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Strife. Doom with a storyline, thinking, and pulsating translucent blobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moves Like Jaguar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Quake on Jaguar just do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drixxel Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Full ACK; IIRC when Cannon Fodder and Nebulus were published for S60, they took the Atari code and the Amiga sound for this very reason. So creating Turrican type games on the Jaguar would most probably mean taking the ST game apart and then improving on that version (e.g. adding better scrolling, more colours, levels/adversaries from other Turrican versions, etc.). Interesting. Does it stand to reason, then, that games like Sensible Soccer or Cannon Fodder on the Jag may be ST ports at their core that borrow assets from the Amiga version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) I always wanted more arcade conversions for this console. To me Atari consoles were synonymous with their arcade games. Games like Area 51 and Maximum Force which we know the Jaguar can handle. Hard Drivin/Race Drivin, Pit Fighter, Road Riot, Xybots and if they wanted to be really ambitious San Fransisco Rush and War: Final Assault. Arcade conversions is where Atari really dropped the ball with the Jaguar, aside from a very small amount of updated titles. Atari might have dropped the ball, but it wasn't Atari Arcade games, if Atari Corp. had owned Atari Games Corp., then they would have done conversions of Atari Games arcade games, but back in the 80's, Atari split, and went from Atari Inc., which included arcade, consoles and computers, to Atari Corp with the console and computers and Atari Games split into ONLY arcade. Atari Corp. would have had to make a deal with Atari Games to get those games made, or a license for Atari Corp. to develop or sub-contract development themselves. Just as they had to do for all other 3rd party conversions to the Jaguar. Edited January 30, 2013 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moves Like Jaguar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hello? Quake for Jaguar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hello? Quake for Jaguar? You'll need to use the hidden processors to make that work. The ones that run on fairy dust and wishful thinking. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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