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HSC10 Round 12: Super Breakout & Kaboom!


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"Jittery paddles? After a couple of goes they should warm/charge up and work better but if not play 2 player and use the other one perhaps!"

 

Wow! I never remember this happening before. I can't seem to get it to stop. I tried it on both my 130XE and my 800XL.

It's a strange one, there's a lot of info the HSC's Paddles thread (pinned) but after much tinkering they just seem to work after a while so have a couple of dummy goes first (leaving them with the atari on doesn't make much difference). It might be something to do with some hardware charging but also might be (trbb's latest paddle theorem!) temperature related in terms of the metal expanding and making a better connection. The 130XE seems much worse than the 800XL.

 

Ok so I got my paddles today. In all the years Ive been playing video games Ive never played using paddles so Ive got some work to do!

That's great :thumbsup: now the rest of you bag a set if you can (they are cheap!) and we can do a full blown paddles round later in the season perhaps ;)

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First bash at the tables, might reduce the points (if I dont win!!)...

as I have no HTML posting rights if anyone has a nicer look for text tables let me know ;-) Even in a fixed font like courier new the spaces / text still doesn't line up in rows when you post it (looks ok when editing post) :mad:

 

Super Breakout

Rank Player ------- Break Prog Dubl Cav Total Points

1st trbb ---- 965 1,403 683 1,342 4,393 14pts##

2nd McKong --------- 893 2181 986 --0 4060 14pts##*

3rd adam242 (N)----- 385 -608 531 569 2093 11pts

4th bluecat -------- 249 -291 --0 360 -900 9pts

5th roadrunner (N)-- 307 ---0 --0 313 -620 9pts

6th jblenkle (N)---- 85 ---0 --0 --0 --85 8pts

 

Kaboom

Rank Player Large Small Total Points

1st Zylon (N) 27,624 3,513 31,137 15pts##

2nd therealbountybob 3476 1555 5,031 11pts

3rd McKong 3459 1447 4,906 10pts

4th adam242 (N) 998 453 1,451 9pts

5th bluecat 998 447 1,445 8pts

6th jblenkle (N) 557 0 557 8pts

 

(N)=+1pt for NTSC players

# Highest individual score bonuses

* HSC Record bonus points

 

KABOOM [Graphics:7 Sound:8 Playability:7 HSCR *6*] [played s2-r1, 4-15, 8-4]

(LARGE PADDLES) Zylon : 53604

(SMALL PADDLES) Zylon : 4468

SUPER BREAKOUT [Graphics:7 Sound:4 Playability:7 HSCR *7*] [played 8-10]

(BREAKOUT) Zylon : 1342

CAVITY) Zylon : 1632

(DOUBLE) Zylon : 1714

(PROGRESSIVE) Zylon : 2068

 

:thumbsup: Team Rock :music:

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A few modest improvements tonight:

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Breakout......420

Progressive...754

Double........531

Cavity........569

Total........2274

 

Kaboom! large 998

Kaboom! small 677

 

Also, I've switched to one of my 800XLs... much, much less paddle jitter than the XEGS. Still NTSC.

This seems to be a common problem with the XE series.. is there a fix for it?

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That's great :thumbsup: now the rest of you bag a set if you can (they are cheap!) and we can do a full blown paddles round later in the season perhaps ;)

Is there anyone still without paddles - still time to get some as we have another week of play :)

Also, I've switched to one of my 800XLs... much, much less paddle jitter than the XEGS. Still NTSC.

This seems to be a common problem with the XE series.. is there a fix for it?

Checkout the HSC paddles thread, think there was mention of replacing some resistors or something (don't multiquote me on that) ;)

 

VOTE on soon...

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I'll just carry a table forward as I go. ;)

 

Kaboom

- large paddle- 27,624

- small paddle- 3,513

 

Super Breakout

B- 1,301

C- 1,000

D- 1,600

P- 2,743

 

T= 6,644

 

I'll take that record back from Mr. Kong now, and pocket a bonus point as I do so. :P :evil:

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McKong needs to step up to Zylon's plate as I'm struggling, however I did manage a couple of improvements...

Breakout 965

Progressive 1,510

Double 747

Cavity 1,342

Total 4,564

 

Will hit Kaboom! again tomorrow

 

Anyone else playong on an old CTR TV - the ball gets a nice comet tail, talking of which...

 

The VOTE for round 13 is OPEN

you guys might want to read the recent comments on the Beta Lyrae post (and some of the other's recently updated - at the bottom of the unpinned posts) :)

 

seamless link well done eh?!

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A nice bump on Kaboom! (large paddles) to 1539 1802:

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And (barely!) cleared the first screen of bricks on standard Breakout for 450:

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I prefer progressive, as it's much rarer to bounce off the top of the screen and shrink the paddle in half.

 

Breakout......450

Progressive...754

Double........531

Cavity........569

 

Total........2304

 

Kaboom! large 1802

Kaboom! small 677

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No paddle No fun :( Nadral, Nadral, Nadral ;)

You can play Kaboom using the joystick (if you can buy some paddles they are quite cheap that would be good - try and get two sets and you can play Castle Crisis with 4 players on the XL/XE it's fantastic fun. Then we can have more paddles games rounds :)

Looks like I won't be joining in on the more obscure titles here just yet. My flash programmer cart from Atarimax doesn't power up. :(

Better post on the main A8 forum for that one ;)

I prefer progressive, as it's much rarer to bounce off the top of the screen and shrink the paddle in half.

Seems a bit harsh the bat mega shrinks but it was a 1979 8(16?)K release! I seem to be better bouncing on the left wall than the right for some brain/eye reason I bet. It gets annoyingly hard when you have 1 brick left and have to make across the bat shots to get the ball to vary it's course.

 

Improved on Double to 1,107

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I seem to be better bouncing on the left wall than the right for some brain/eye reason I bet. It gets annoyingly hard when you have 1 brick left and have to make across the bat shots to get the ball to vary it's course.

 

Hmmm... must've sent my latest updated scores (post #37) down the right side of the screen then... they're missing from the new tables. ;)

 

Seriously though, I have the exact same problem. Much better banking the ball off the left side and having trouble putting "English" on it with the bat. Still trying....

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My whoppin' score of 85 (post #22) isn't listed for Super Breakout where it was on previous listings...

Any scores under bluecat are assumed to be not trying hard enough :D should get away with that as she is away for a couple of weeks ;-)

Hmmm... must've sent my latest updated scores (post #37) down the right side of the screen then... they're missing from the new tables. ;)

 

Seriously though, I have the exact same problem. Much better banking the ball off the left side and having trouble putting "English" on it with the bat. Still trying....

I didn't see the puny green; needs a splash of the bold paint ;)

 

OK Super Breakout discussion time folks - If you start a go it seems to bounce regularly for 4 then go off at a shallow angle for several, think this is an initial pattern? Tactics wise (on all but progressive) is it best to (A) clear the bottom and work up to avoid the small bat until the last possible minute OR (2) clear the two edges OR (3) one edge OR (Z) clear the middle and get the ball up there... or (F) foget about tactics and just hit the ball... I'm hedging towards (3). On progressive I think this is also a good strategy, I think even the small bat is worth the price...

 

I think I figured out my best combination of paddles (set 4 #2) TVs & Ataris (though in reality I'm not unplugging anything but paddles) heck I should be programming my abbuc game, only 1 month to go :-o :-o :skull: but it might be down to having ten goes of SuperB Prog in a row that I got a new pb. of 2,072 now I'm a PRO don't you know. Improved on Kaboom too Large 5,736 and Small 1,636, with an extra man every 1000pts I guess if you can survive a couple more waves than I, you get a man for every one you lose - the game drops down a speed when you explode :)

 

now off for more midnight MAC/65 assembler!

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Vote for the next round H*E*R*E ;)

Latest tables

scoring: 10pts win, 2nd 8pts, 3rd 6pts, 4th 5pts, 5th 4pts. 3pts for 6th-8th, 2pts for 9th-10th, 1pt for 11th+

 

Super Breakout

Rank Player ------- Break Prog Dubl Cav Total Points

1st Zylon (N) 1301# 2743#* 1600# 1000 6,644 15pts###*

2nd McKong 1157 2186* 1436 1732# 6,511 10pts*

3rd therealbountybob 965 2072* 1107 1342 5,486 7pts*

4th adam242 (N) 450 754 531 569 2,304 6pts

5th roadrunner (N) 307 527 434 313 1,581 5pts

6th bluecat 249 291 0 360 900 3pts

7th firestorm 801 0 0 0 801 3pts

8th jblenkle (N) 85 0 0 0 85 4pts

 

Kaboom

Rank Player Large Small Total Points

1st Zylon (N) 27624# 3513# 31137 13pts##

2nd therealbountybob 5736 1636 7,372 8pts

3rd McKong 3459 1447 4,906 6pts

4th firestorm 2557 0 2,557 5pts

5th adam242 (N) 1802 677 2,479 5pts

6th bluecat 998 447 1,445 3pts

7th jblenkle (N) 557 0 557 4pts

 

(N)=+1pt for NTSC players

# Highest individual game score bonuses

* HSC Record bonus points

 

KABOOM [Graphics:7 Sound:8 Playability:7 HSCR *6*] [played s2-r1, 4-15, 8-4]

(LARGE PADDLES) Zylon : 53604

(SMALL PADDLES) Zylon : 4468

SUPER BREAKOUT [Graphics:7 Sound:4 Playability:7 HSCR *7*] [played 8-10]

(BREAKOUT) Zylon : 1342

CAVITY) Zylon : 1632

(DOUBLE) Zylon : 1714

(PROGRESSIVE) Zylon : 2068

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OK Super Breakout discussion time folks - If you start a go it seems to bounce regularly for 4 then go off at a shallow angle for several, think this is an initial pattern? Tactics wise (on all but progressive) is it best to (A) clear the bottom and work up to avoid the small bat until the last possible minute OR (2) clear the two edges OR (3) one edge OR (Z) clear the middle and get the ball up there... or (F) foget about tactics and just hit the ball... I'm hedging towards (3). On progressive I think this is also a good strategy, I think even the small bat is worth the price...

 

Excerpt from the instruction booklet:

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And for the record, I tend toward tactic (3), regardless of which variation - aiming for the left side, I seem to have better control over there.

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OK Super Breakout discussion time folks - If you start a go it seems to bounce regularly for 4 then go off at a shallow angle for several, think this is an initial pattern? Tactics wise (on all but progressive) is it best to (A) clear the bottom and work up to avoid the small bat until the last possible minute OR (2) clear the two edges OR (3) one edge OR (Z) clear the middle and get the ball up there... or (F) foget about tactics and just hit the ball... I'm hedging towards (3). On progressive I think this is also a good strategy, I think even the small bat is worth the price...

I usually break through the first rows of bricks by the time the 2nd set turns green. You want to keep it near the top as long as possible, small bat be damned!. This way you get more points per brick busted. The faster you get the "speed-up" on your later lives the better, as the bricks come down faster than you can bust them. I use either edge, but primarily the left.

I also think that the first "off-hit" is part of a pattern.

Cavity and Breakout are just luck and skill, but Doubles has more than meets the eye.

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