+SpiceWare Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 You may need to provide a photo of yourself for attendees to spot you with http://atariage.com/forums/topic/217449-photos-of-the-atariage-booth-at-prge-2013/ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3069761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just to be clear... the upgrade/trade-in fee will be either $25 or $40 depending on how old your cartridge is. If you purchased it on or after November 2013, the upgrade fee is $25 (your board already supports the extra chips needed for Encore.) If you purchased it before November 2013, it will be $40. The price is more because your board does not support Encore hardware, so this isn't an upgrade but a trade-in. I plan to clean up, reprogram, repair (if necessary) and resell your trade-in cart as "refurbished" at a lower price than a new standard edition, with the understanding that it is not upgradeable. Of course, If you want to buy an Encore outright, you can - the cost is $85. It will be a few weeks after CGE before Encores are available online (mostly due to limited supplies at the moment.) I will also try to get the upgrade/trade-in program in place about that time, then make refurbished trade-in carts available as well once I have enough of them. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I think you're crazy offering trade-in! Spending all that time refurbishing... We need you working on batari Basic kernels! Oh, and Concerto! But what do I know? Thank you for this trade-in! (You should set "for a limited time".) Both of mine are "before 2013" but the SD one boots a bit slower than the microSD one. Is that due to the speed of the card? Is this trade-in for all previous Harmony? I guess it doesn't matter as you are still going to sell them as "standard edition non-upgradeable" right? I still haven't decided if I am going to trade-in or buy new. I really like having 2, and I use 2, but I might not get use from 3. Then getting the 7800 Concerto... Decisions, decisions... 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'm gonna keep my old 2600 Harmony and buy the 7800 Concerto. Best of both worlds, since there's not that much available off the bat that I can't play on my old Harmony. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'll trade mine in from '07 don't mind 40.00 cash,credit or paypal let me know Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermi69 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'm gonna keep my old 2600 Harmony and buy the 7800 Concerto. Best of both worlds, since there's not that much available off the bat that I can't play on my old Harmony. Ja.. the same I think too.. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'll prob still get concerto when it comes out but my 7800 is out of commision rignt now Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Batari, this is just a thought. Lots of people trade stuff into the AA store for credit. Maybe you can work a deal with Albert to accept Harmony carts for store credit in the AA store. Albert could then bulk ship the old Harmonies to you in exchange for the credit vouchers. Since Albert already hosts the Harmony store at harmony.atariage.com, maybe you guys could work a deal to make it easier on people and give them more options. Also, once the new Harmony is released, you may find it difficult getting rid of the old non-upgradable models. I just don't want you to get stuck with old inventory. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I think you're crazy offering trade-in! Spending all that time refurbishing... I'm gonna keep my old 2600 Harmony and buy the 7800 Concerto. Ditto on both statements. batari, your offer is extremely generous but really unnecessary. I echo iesposta's comment, with all due respect, and include, you're nuts. There should be no trade-ins for this already amazing, awesome, and 'steal of a deal' product. This is a hardware homebrew where you are already not even come close to being compensated for your time, labor, and other resources. You are not a huge company with deep pockets, which by the way, would have not offered such a thing. For example, imagine someone looking for a trade-in or discount on a Atari 7800 system, or a 5200, because they want to trade in a 2600 to Atari. Similarly, imagine someone looking for a discount on the 5200 adapter module that plays 2600 games, because they bought a 2600 previously and will trade it in. Or imagine someone trying to tell Nintendo they want a deal or break on the top loader NES because they bought the original/toaster model already - and even paid to have that unit repaired - and will trade it in. Atari and Nintendo would have told that person to take a hike. IMHO, you deserve full support and my "old" harmony is staying with me. Looking forward to purchasing the products(s) whenever it is available for purchase. I just don't want you to get stuck with old inventory. EXACTLY...and a good reason, in part, why I'm trading nothing in and buying a Concerto outright along with buying an Encore for my Woody; despite already owning the original Harmony, which was a steal itself. batari is *way* too generous and self-sacrificing with this product. Regardless, thank you batari! The Harmony (line) is an excellent tool for players and developers alike. It is whole-heartedly and greatly appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 batari, your offer is extremely generous but really unnecessary. I echo iesposta's comment, with all due respect, and include, you're nuts. There should be no trade-ins for this already amazing, awesome, and 'steal of a deal' product. My thoughts exactly. Also your talent should not be "wasted" with such labor. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I completely agree with the above comments. The level of support you provide for Harmony is commendable... this is an extra mile that isn't really necessary. Looking forward to buying the new Harmony versions! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I'm now thinking of buying encore and keeping my orignal, if and when I get a 7800 up and running I'll go for concetro. I'll see on saturday. having two haromy's will help cut down carts for my show in one for normal games one for homebrews Edited September 11, 2014 by Dan Iacovelli Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 so I'm the only person trading in for encore at cge. I highly doubt that. I can't make it to CGE, but I gave my Harmony to a friend. He is going to try to have both of ours upgraded/traded in (both are pre-2013). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I highly doubt that. I can't make it to CGE, but I gave my Harmony to a friend. He is going to try to have both of ours upgraded/traded in (both are pre-2013). good to know I'm on the fence right now,but I'm thinking of trading in as well, only have one 2600, and I don't know if my show in il will happen. I'll se how it goes on sat. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Dan, you won't be the only one trading up. Mine is packed already. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I'm in vegas already arrived yesterday and harmony is all set. most likely I'll do tradeup. i have paypal app on phone so I can pay that way Edited September 11, 2014 by Dan Iacovelli Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 I originally decided on the upgrade program so people would still buy Harmony after I announced Encore early this year. I think the upgrade program still makes sense and I will continue that regardless. With upgrades, there is nothing to resell (if your board is upgradeable, send it to me and I will attach the extra hardware to your existing board) and I am keeping my word to those who purchased upgradeable units that this option will continue to be available. I will see how the trade-in program goes, though. I suspect that I will still be able to sell the refurbished units if the price is right, so I will try it for a while. If I get overwhelmed with trade-ins and/or the units I have are moving slowly, I may suspend trade-ins. For now I am taking on this risk but I believe they will sell. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 sounds good to me batari I think I'll go for the trade in anyways. just need to play zippy on the 2600 as well as boulder and any other game exeed the max of normal game (as well as the others) will the encore have the current bios 1.06 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3070947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 got my encore today had paypal troubles so I had to pay with cash Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3071971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 got my encore today had paypal troubles so I had to pay with cash Cool. I've not been able to yet. I've not seen batari. Where was he?! There are some of us who have been looking for him. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3072083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Is there a convention going on somewhere? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3072091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 trek look for guy wearing the harmony cart logo (yin/yang) and a qr code on a back of his shirt I had to chase him down. if your paying via paypal make sure your cell phone is confirmed because it seems that for security reasons if you sent an invoce paypal needs to make its it you. I couldn't get it working my google voice or my other voip numbers. so I had to pay cash now I need to head to cvs for the atm to use the chase atm to avid the fees.(he doesn't have a table so he wondering around) star, yes cge Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3072155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 trek look for guy wearing the harmony cart logo (yin/yang) and a qr code on a back of his shirt I had to chase him down. if your paying via paypal make sure your cell phone is confirmed because it seems that for security reasons if you sent an invoce paypal needs to make its it you. I couldn't get it working my google voice or my other voip numbers. so I had to pay cash now I need to head to cvs for the atm to use the chase atm to avid the fees.(he doesn't have a table so he wondering around) star, yes cge Okay Las Vegas... I thought the one in portland wasn't to come until later this year. So many events, too far away... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3072204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 trek look for guy wearing the harmony cart logo (yin/yang) and a qr code on a back of his shirt I had to chase him down. if your paying via paypal make sure your cell phone is confirmed because it seems that for security reasons if you sent an invoce paypal needs to make its it you. I couldn't get it working my google voice or my other voip numbers. so I had to pay cash now I need to head to cvs for the atm to use the chase atm to avid the fees.(he doesn't have a table so he wondering around) star, yes cge I'm going to have to keep walking around to see if I find him. Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3072225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 yeah its tough to find him Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/220696-new-harmony-product-harmony-encore/page/11/#findComment-3072237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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