sn8k Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I prefer the mock up sprite. I think if it can be helped, I would change it if at all possible but at this point just want to see a release and can live with the original sprite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Toki proto needs do want. Question regarding conversion of PAL Prototype to NTSC: Is the screen display taller than NTSC? This would necessitate shrinking or cropping the graphics vertically to fit. Many PAL systems had the same number of lines as NTSC but just letterboxed the frame. Other game systems were capable of displaying for instance 288 lines but some games ported from Japan or US only utilized 240/224 of said lines while others were reformatted to occupy full PAL frame. Does PAL Toki use more than 240/224 lines? If so, that would be a problem for conversion. My mom's NTSC CRT can sync to 50 Hz without rolling but crops off the bottom edge of the screen when presented an NTSC50 signal. PAL Atari 2600 games also display wrong colors obviously. I can also for instance play PAL N64 games on my NTSC Everdrive but the reduced flicker rate hurts my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Question regarding conversion of PAL Prototype to NTSC: Is the screen display taller than NTSC? This would necessitate shrinking or cropping the graphics vertically to fit. Many PAL systems had the same number of lines as NTSC but just letterboxed the frame. Other game systems were capable of displaying for instance 288 lines but some games ported from Japan or US only utilized 240/224 of said lines while others were reformatted to occupy full PAL frame. Does PAL Toki use more than 240/224 lines? No, just 208 lines for graphics and status / score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 No, just 208 lines for graphics and status / score. That is good to know. What is taking so long on this project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 What is taking so long on this project? It's a hobby being done for fun in spare time and not by a salaried employee. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Fingers crossed the disks are still readable... I'm also hoping Glenn the 5200 Man actually produces the ST discs of unreleased 7800 games he claimed he had in his recent interview on the Antic Podcast. But he hasn't gotten back to the Antic folks and he didn't divulge what titles he had in his possession. I'm hoping he has Electrocop. Or Paperboy. Or some others we aren't even aware of. http://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-90-glenn-the-5200-man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Does PAL Toki use more than 240/224 lines? If so, that would be a problem for conversion. The visible lines are only half the battle. Because a PAL frame is longer in duration, it has more CPU time per frame. (while the extra 50 lines of nothing are being drawn) If that extra time is utilized by things that need to happen every frame (DL updates, scrolling) it can make a PAL to NTSC conversion very difficult. Much easier to start with NTSC and convert to PAL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funknflow5200 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Just bumping this for the sake of bumping. Any progress update? Dying to play this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just bumping this for the sake of bumping. Any progress update? Dying to play this one! x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarian63 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 x3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 WTF are you guys talking about? The conversion sold out about 2 months ago, 100 numbered, limited edition. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIKON Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 WTF are you guys talking about? The conversion sold out about 2 months ago, 100 numbered, limited edition. where was this announced??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 where was this announced??? C'mon, buddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Haha, CPU's going ape spit now! Besides the latest homebrews, this has got to be one of the most eagerly awaited releases ever. Hoping we'll all know when it's good and ready. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthkur Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 WTF are you guys talking about? The conversion sold out about 2 months ago, 100 numbered, limited edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 WTF are you guys talking about? The conversion sold out about 2 months ago, 100 numbered, limited edition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Sorry to everyone who missed out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800fan Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Early bird caught the worms. Late sleeper missed out these carts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 April Fool's was three weeks ago... Pics of Toki repro cart running on NTSC 7800 or it didn't happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 WTF are you guys talking about? The conversion sold out about 2 months ago, 100 numbered, limited edition. Don't tease now ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Haha, CPU's going ape spit now! Besides the latest homebrews, this has got to be one of the most eagerly awaited releases ever. Hoping we'll all know when it's good and ready. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 ... perhaps you wanted to post this: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Neato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 ... perhaps you wanted to post this: Nah, screenshots are too easy to fake. Better if he can prove that it runs on real hardware. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 The screen I posted is what comes up on a google search for "Toki ape spit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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