+BBWW Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm curious if anyone as tried to plug in an Atari Videoplexer into the cart slot of a system changer. LOL It would look weird but I know I'd try it for the heck of it. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I have an off brand cart selector for Atari, but it's packed away somewhere. Actually, I think my system changer is too. If I find them, I'll try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestsmith Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I think you can see one in this thread http://atariage.com/forums/topic/157678-intv2600-system-changer/ Lots of stuff going on in this picture! Forrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BBWW Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Thanks, Lots of the photos don't show up for me in that thread. I think you can see one in this thread http://atariage.com/forums/topic/157678-intv2600-system-changer/ Lots of stuff going on in this picture! Forrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I have my System Changer just sitting there if someone wants to ship me a Videoplexer for testing, I'll give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I've read posts that the Harmony Atari multi-cart works in the System Changer, that is on my wish list, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestsmith Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yea I cant either now, but I can if I find the picture on Google, this is it. Forrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I don't see why it wouldn't... it's not an emulator, it's an actual VCS in there. Mattel "cheated" by building a VCS out of off-the-shelf components, and just passing the signal from the System Changer through to the TV without touching the Master Component hardware. This is why the Master Component I needs a modification to support the System Changer, since it did not have that pass-through feature. -dZ. Edited December 12, 2015 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't see why it wouldn't... it's not an emulator, it's an actual VCS in there. Mattel "cheated" by building a VCS out of off-the-shelf components, and just passing the signal from the System Changer through to the TV without touching the Master Component hardware. This is why the Master Component I needs a modification to support the System Changer, since it did not have that pass-through feature. -dZ. They sure did.. Smart buggers weren't they... I remember the fist time I seen a system changer commercial on TV-I could not stop bugging my Dad to get me one... Oh those memories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't see why it wouldn't... it's not an emulator, it's an actual VCS in there. Mattel "cheated" by building a VCS out of off-the-shelf components, and just passing the signal from the System Changer through to the TV without touching the Master Component hardware. This is why the Master Component I needs a modification to support the System Changer, since it did not have that pass-through feature. -dZ. They sure did.. Smart buggers weren't they... I remember the fist time I seen a system changer commercial on TV-I could not stop bugging my Dad to get me one... Oh those memories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Don't know why it double posted???? weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I ain't no smart guy on how these things work, but they must have done a bit more than passing the video through the INTV unit because if I recall you can play Atari games using the Inty controllers. Or is that just how things work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Spear Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I got a Harmony (can't remember if 4 or 5) and it works in the System Changer connected to my Inty II just fine. I've read posts that the Harmony Atari multi-cart works in the System Changer, that is on my wish list, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BBWW Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yes, my Harmony Cart works great in the system changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BBWW Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 A tower of beauty from the 80's. Yea I cant either now, but I can if I find the picture on Google, this is it. Forrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I ain't no smart guy on how these things work, but they must have done a bit more than passing the video through the INTV unit because if I recall you can play Atari games using the Inty controllers. Or is that just how things work? Good point. I don't know if the Intellivision controllers work from the Master Component, or by connecting them to the System Changer. I thought it was the latter. UPDATE: OK here is some information: http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/hardware/changer_tech.html "The System Changer only uses the Intellivision for the power supply and RF modulator." So, there you have it. Edited December 12, 2015 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Good point. I don't know if the Intellivision controllers work from the Master Component, or by connecting them to the System Changer. I thought it was the latter. UPDATE: OK here is some information: http://www.intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/hardware/changer_tech.html "The System Changer only uses the Intellivision for the power supply and RF modulator." So, there you have it. that is not correct. Im pretty sure you can use the intv controllers but only in the intv. You cannot use them in the system changer. I know that it does wonky stuff if you plug them into the system changer Edited December 12, 2015 by pimpmaul69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) that is not correct. Im pretty sure you can use the intv controllers but only in the intv. You cannot use them in the system changer. I know that it does wonky stuff if you plug them into the system changer Then, for it to work, the System Changer must have a bit of extra software to access to the PSG (the sound chip, where the I/O ports are), and decode the hand-controller signal and pass it to the I/O controller of the on-board VCS. After all, the System Changer works like any other plug-in cartridge. However, if you use Atari controllers on the System Changer, only the VCS hardware is used. Still, it's a plain-old VCS in a big fancy Intellivision cartridge. Here is some information on the hardware: http://wiki.intellivision.us/index.php?title=Intellivision_System_Changer_Support_Modification And it turns out we've been through this topic before: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/187964-intv-system-changer-mith-or-fact/ -dZ. Edited December 12, 2015 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So it's pretty much like the ColecoVision Expansion Module #1, a.k.a. the Atari 2600 add-on, same deal.. console just acts as a pass-through, just power and RF output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So it's pretty much like the ColecoVision Expansion Module #1, a.k.a. the Atari 2600 add-on, same deal.. console just acts as a pass-through, just power and RF output.no. Intellivisiondude posted a video in that link which confirms you can use the intv controllers in the intv to play atari games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Interesting.. I hope to get one someday because I play Inty more then CV these days and I always use the EM#1 to play 2600. I would just use Intv/system changer and Harmony.. and this would also give me the option to use my Super Video Arcade Controller or CV Arcade controller or Famicom pad. Win Win since Inty set up for 4 way and CV for 8 way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) no. Intellivisiondude posted a video in that link which confirms you can use the intv controllers in the intv to play atari games It's still pass-through. It may have extra code to access the PSG, but then it passes the signal to the I/O port of the internal VCS circuitry. It's still a plain-vanilla VCS inside a fancy Intellivision cartridge that sends video signal through to the TV, bypassing the CPU, STIC, bus, memory, and the rest of the Intellivision (except when you use the Intellivision hand-controllers, which then reads the PSG). The point is that it is not emulation like a lot of people think. No code game code is processed by the Master Component: it's a VCS-clone inside. -dZ. Edited December 12, 2015 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 It's still pass-through. It may have extra code to access the PSG, but then it passes the signal to the I/O port of the internal VCS circuitry. It's still a plain-vanilla VCS inside a fancy Intellivision cartridge that sends video signal through to the TV, bypassing the CPU, STIC, bus, memory, and the rest of the Intellivision (except when you use the Intellivision hand-controllers, which then reads the PSG). The point is that it is not emulation like a lot of people think. No code game code is processed by the Master Component: it's a VCS-clone inside. -dZ. true but i took i as he was saying like the coleco you could only use the atari controllers. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I found my system changer, but still can't find the Atari cart selector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 It's a complete VCS inside the System Changer, but you can use the Intellivision controllers over the main unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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