BladeJunker Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 My Retrobit NES/SNES/Genesis/GBA clone setup is native hardware running on SOACs, not software emulation, so it is limited to stadard definition anaog output. SNES and Genesis are almost perfect despite some relatively minor audio and graphical artifacts on the NES side affecting only a tiny minority of games. It also runs GB via the official Super Gameboy peripheral. Retrofreak/Retron5 can dump the smaller 32Mbyte GBA video carts but not the larger full length movie carts as they use an unknown bankswitch scheme and nobody cares enough to attempt to dump or emulate them. People inquiring on GBATemp or wherever regarding getting clean dumps of these three oversized movie carts would simply be instructed to torrent the original movies or buy the DVD. DVDs are fairly adequate and yield good picture on most HDTVs through HDMI using an upscaling DVD or BluRay player, even if the image is a bit softer than BluRay. DVDs are by no means unwatchable, and I often question whether a title is worth repurchasing just for the HD upgrade. VCDs are another story though. I've burned ISO bootlegs in the past of certain content that was either heavily censored on release or was never made available to the public. Some were clearly mastered from VHS promotional copies as often evident by horizontal distortion along the upper boundary of the video frame. The 240p video content with heavy artifacting is borderline unwatchable nowadays, much like FMV material on early 4th-5th gen CDROM games like Sega CD, Turbo CD, 3DO, CDi, Jag CD, Saturn, and PS1. PS1 and Saturn were better quality than the former platforms largely due to a faster CPU and more efficient compression algorithms, but overall scenes were hardly ever above VCD quality and often much worse. 90s FMV heavy CD games definitely did not age well and are one reason why I still prefer the cart systems over CD peripherals. Also chiptune sountracks are more nostalgic for me than random BGM CD tracks which clashed with the synthesized or low-sample sound effects often used in CD titles. Oh no way, the actually bothered with programming a chip instead of just using an Arduino or other off the shelf product, that is more work but better results. Seen some of that in Kevtris's work on NES, large portions of hardware replaced with replicated technology. Hah I love that, torrent or buy a DVD instead, well KISS I guess. ^_^ Nintendo had a lot of varying cartridge types over the years where supporting all of them is a real chore in clone engineering EGs. all those mapper variations on the NES or the Super FX 1&2 chips on SNES. Also the pirate carts are there own special headache too. Yeah DVDs are watchable which is why I site it as getting it right finally with optical disc movies, I tried lots of things before that like Video CDs(saw a demo), screwing around with my ATI-All-in-Wonder, and even bought a couple Movie CDs bitd. http://www.hometoys.com/article/2006/10/classic-home-toysinstallment-6what-in-the-world-was-the-sirius-movie-cd/784/ None of it was any good so DVDs were a welcome change except for all the excessive menu transition animation they don't use any more. A lot of the Video CDs I've picked up are Chinese bootlegs and although the cases look slick most of them are just bad VHS rips rather than captured from a film source, yeah I saw a film rating board mark from a country I'd never heard of on one Video CD I saw in thrift. Most of my small Blu-Ray collection is second hand copies in decent shape since the format is still too expensive even after being around so long, for example with Walking Dead I like the show but didn't feel like shelling out 10-15$ more per season. Looking into game related FMV none of the modern codecs work with the slower bandwidths but we do know more about it collectively in hindsight so I think its something that could be done better with a second run of development of homebrew. As a Sega CD fan I've wanted to have a go at making a good FMV game that wasn't pure garbage IE. Digital Pictures. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3441826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramses Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Wanted to list couple of fun games that never got any console love. Anteater Chameleon Fast Freddie 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3459588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Wanted to list couple of fun games that never got any console love. Anteater Oil's Well under the ColecoVision is extremely similar, if interested. The Atari 8-bit computers have a port of Oil's Well; which if one was to include the XEGS as a console, it would be applicable too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8qIv04gbM It was converted to the 5200 as well. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3459749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Wanted to list couple of fun games that never got any console love. Anteater Chameleon Fast Freddie Those look cool. Never heard of them, gotta try them out on my Rasp Pi Mame sometime... 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3460576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostAlgae37 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 That Chameleon game looks awesome. I think that a 7800 version would be a worthy addition to the homebrew library. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3460744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah, not a game I've heard of before actually, looks interesting Oil's Well was also released on the C64, and yeah, first time I played it, I recognised it as an Anteater clone heh. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3460803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramses Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Oil's Well under the ColecoVision is extremely similar, if interested. The Atari 8-bit computers have a port of Oil's Well; which if one was to include the XEGS as a console, it would be applicable too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8qIv04gbM It was converted to the 5200 as well. Oh wow. Never knew it was cloned! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3460858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'd like to see the arcade game Two Tigers. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3461786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stun Runner 87 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Gradius would look cool on the 7800. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3466236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stun Runner 87 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3466238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwilove Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I would like to have a go at designing graphics for some shooter games - but I haven't a programmer to hook up with. Like to do something better than Sirius / Plutos. To have a go anyway. I'm no programmer - just a graphics guy who like to play around with the pixels/graphics side of stuff. I don't have a 7800 as such and would rely on 7800 emulation. Harvey 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3466285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxdrive Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 For twin stick game what about smash tv 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3466663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stun Runner 87 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 For twin stick game what about smash tv SmashTV = pure Classic.....I used to drop so many quarters at the arcade on that game, if I added them up,I probably could of bought the arcade machine. LoL. Very addictive game. I have it on Midway Classics for Ps2. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3467172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Oh wow. Never knew it was cloned! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3468994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san-d-2000 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Amidar! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3631490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Gradius would look cool on the 7800. Or Lifeforce! Do you think the 7800 could pull off those animated alien arms in the first level? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3635536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Zektor. With all the speech.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-3636473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 1/11/2016 at 5:32 PM, PAC-MAN-RED said: Pengo! I guess I am a few years behind catching this one. On 1/11/2016 at 10:30 PM, MobiusAqua said: I was just thinking about this, too! I thought about a version that let you choose between "Popcorn" and whatever the other version's background music was called, among other things. Like a mix of the two most common game revisions, changeable in bits and pieces from an Options menu. And with PAC-MAN-RED's graphics, anyone who codes this is gonna have an epic-looking game. Also kind of funny On 1/11/2016 at 11:11 PM, PAC-MAN-RED said: I too had an idea where a story mode could be implemented along with the regular arcade mode. Nice title. Again, I am just finding this. Of course, I had to use Penta (Go) for copyright reasons. I just saw this, revisiting the "Games you wish had come out" thread. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-5236140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender_2600 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 3 hours ago, darryl1970 said: I guess I am a few years behind catching this one. In any case, it would have been a different project than yours, since he converted sprites that are 8 pixel wide and your sprites are 12 pixel wide. Using 8 pixel wide sprites you get less detail but you can have a wider playing field with more tiles, but I think this solution needs some more cycles. In the end, I think I too would have used 12 pixel wide sprites. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-5236213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonie Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Old topic but, yeah, No Missile Command? Could the center silo be fired by pressing both buttons at the same time? I think the 7800 could have easily had three buttons if they didn't use the painline and the fire button wasn't wired to the two pot lines like it was. I get it was done for 2600 compatibility, but the Fire button could have easily been button C... A - Pin 5 with Pullup B - Pin 9 with Pullup C - Pin 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/247579-missing-arcade-classics-on-the-7800/page/10/#findComment-5289257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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