AtariDean Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I've only just discovered that Atari max do a happy 1050 chip. Are these any good , I remember my dad had one back in the 80s with a switch, he could turn it on happy or off. As really tempted to order, just wanted some feedback off people that had fitted these . Does it have any issues loading floppies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Hi! I was wondering the same. I asked Steven Tucker about the PCB, and it turns out there is not a physical switch possibility to enable/disable the happy. I'm also not sure whether this was possible with the original Happy. I am sure it was possible with the happy software to set the drive to unhappy. Certain titles do want a non-happy setting. But before you start buying anything. Did you consider the Speedy. Check my other thread http://atariage.com/forums/topic/257715-ah-finally-i-got-myself-a-mini-speedy/ about the Speedy. I read that tf_hh is producing new speedy which will be available soon in Abbuc shop. Since 2 weeks or so I have a speedy in my 1050, and I am VERY pleased with it. It works excellent. It does not have all the features the happy has. The happy has some features where you can copy protected disks etc. I'm not sure if that is something you need/want. I don't... I was just needing a simple upgrade that would give me double density (180K) and high speed I/O. The speedy simply does that, and VERY well I must say. Give it a thought... Edited October 18, 2016 by ProWizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Are there any English docs available for the Mini-Speedy (or will become available)? The OP is in Australia, so he may not read German. Google Translate is an alternative, but not a very good one. Quite a few folks here have indicated that they have bought the AtariMax Happy clone. I have one and it works just like the original. $39.95 and free shipping (but probably not to Australia). No, unless you have the optional Happy Controller mini-board/switches (or a clone), you cannot boot the Happy in slow mode. You must use the menu from the software to set the options -- "unHappy mode." A lesser-known feature of the Happy is that it can become an Archiver drive using the Kiwi Happy Archiver software. You have likely seen this, but here is a link to more info and the Happy Docs. http://www.atarimax.com/sio2pc/documentation/ -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) @Larry in the thread I wrote about I posted happy SPEEDY documentation in English. Here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/257715-ah-finally-i-got-myself-a-mini-speedy/?p=3608580 Edited October 18, 2016 by ProWizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Thanks, Marius. I missed that originally and ended up with German docs, I think at the Atari Wiki. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) I have the Atarimax Happy 1050 board. It does not include a switch, neither did the original Happy 1050, a switch mod to the original Happy board was offered as a separate upgrade. A guy was selling replacement 6502 chips with a switch attached on eBay for the AtariMax (and presumably original or other clones) Happy, but after being nudged into releasing his schematics, IIRC, someone pointed out that it could cause problems under certain conditions or operations. In any case, the Atarimax Happy upgrade comes with Happy rev. 7 software on disk and you can put it in normal 1050 or "unhappy" mode through the menu of that program and it will remain that way until a power cycle is done. This is the way the original Happy worked without the switch upgrade too. Have no fear about the Atarimax version, it is a good clone of the original that works exactly as it should and comes with the original software. A switch would be nice, but it only takes ten seconds to load the software and put the 1050 in unhappy mode and then swap disks with the standard 1050 floppy and reboot. The switch is a luxury not a necessity. English documentation is also down loadable from the Atarimax site, the kit comes with an exact address to the site page, I don't know if there are links to it on the site itself to find it or if you have to type in the exact page address. I just did the latter when I got the kit. Edited October 18, 2016 by Gunstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I have several Atarimax Happy boards in my 1050s. They work Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariDean Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 I have the Atarimax Happy 1050 board. It does not include a switch, neither did the original Happy 1050, a switch mod to the original Happy board was offered as a separate upgrade. A guy was selling replacement 6502 chips with a switch attached on eBay for the AtariMax (and presumably original or other clones) Happy, but after being nudged into releasing his schematics, IIRC, someone pointed out that it could cause problems under certain conditions or operations. In any case, the Atarimax Happy upgrade comes with Happy rev. 7 software on disk and you can put it in normal 1050 or "unhappy" mode through the menu of that program and it will remain that way until a power cycle is done. This is the way the original Happy worked without the switch upgrade too. Have no fear about the Atarimax version, it is a good clone of the original that works exactly as it should and comes with the original software. A switch would be nice, but it only takes ten seconds to load the software and put the 1050 in unhappy mode and then swap disks with the standard 1050 floppy and reboot. The switch is a luxury not a necessity. English documentation is also down loadable from the Atarimax site, the kit comes with an exact address to the site page, I don't know if there are links to it on the site itself to find it or if you have to type in the exact page address. I just did the latter when I got the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariDean Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 I have the Atarimax Happy 1050 board. It does not include a switch, neither did the original Happy 1050, a switch mod to the original Happy board was offered as a separate upgrade. A guy was selling replacement 6502 chips with a switch attached on eBay for the AtariMax (and presumably original or other clones) Happy, but after being nudged into releasing his schematics, IIRC, someone pointed out that it could cause problems under certain conditions or operations. In any case, the Atarimax Happy upgrade comes with Happy rev. 7 software on disk and you can put it in normal 1050 or "unhappy" mode through the menu of that program and it will remain that way until a power cycle is done. This is the way the original Happy worked without the switch upgrade too. Have no fear about the Atarimax version, it is a good clone of the original that works exactly as it should and comes with the original software. A switch would be nice, but it only takes ten seconds to load the software and put the 1050 in unhappy mode and then swap disks with the standard 1050 floppy and reboot. The switch is a luxury not a necessity. English documentation is also down loadable from the Atarimax site, the kit comes with an exact address to the site page, I don't know if there are links to it on the site itself to find it or if you have to type in the exact page address. I just did the latter when I got the kit. Thanks for that I'll order a couple now wasn't sure how it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) If you're not afraid of a bit of soldering get a MegaSpeedy instead of a Happy. It works just like a Happy and also like ALL other hardware upgrades there ever were for the 1050. The biggest advantage is the Speedy mode which boasts track buffers large enough to make your 1050 fly. Also has multiple "fake" drives that you can program with f.i, your favorite DOS and Sector copier programs. These are loaded from the internal memory of the MegaSpeedy so extremely fast. Be sure to run a modded OS to get the best SIO performance. I still,do have another 1050 with Atarimax Happy and it does work fine. The Happy has two advantages over the MegaSpeedy: It's cheaper and there is no soldering required. But IMHO the extra money and effort is definitely worth it if you like using your 1050 a lot Edited October 19, 2016 by Level42 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Hi Level42- Can you still purchase a MegaSpeedy? I thought that sales were over at least for the foreseeable future. If still available, I might get an extra. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentarian Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 It is still listed for sale in the ABBUC store. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'm considering either an Atarimax Happy or a US Doubler for my 1050. I know the feature set of each, but I'm wondering how they compare in DD format used. Are DD disks produced with the USD readable on the Happy, and vice versa? Is one format inherently more robust than the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The formats of both are readable by the other upgrade. The big difference is that the track buffer in the Happy can speed up all floppy access, while the US Doubler requires a special sector skew to achieve higher speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Get the Happy and you'll be... -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Thanks for the feedback. The Happy upgrade does sound like the way to go, but I think I'll do a homebrew USD. I already have an 810 Archiver and an 810 Happy, which handle all my floppy backup needs. I can pick up the needed ram chip for $5 and reprogram the existing EPROM for the USD. I'll probably do the Happy mod when I pick up another 1050 in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcamp48 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I have a Happy drive that won't go into Happy mode I had previously put it into chip mode through software , is there a workaround for this? Ruus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Power down, wait, power up, use the happy software... done Edited September 14, 2021 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcamp48 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Does not work something must be loose.....I will have a friend look at it, also I had run the 1050 to chip program beforehand. Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Was the 1050 working well in its stock form? Having it in (Archiver) Chip mode should not affect anything, once it has powered down. Did it successfully go into Chip mode? That would suggest that the Happy clone is behaving normally. BTW, there are lots of bad copies of 1050 Happy Archiver software floating around. The bad ones appear to work until you try to make a disk copy -- then they fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I had a "Happy" drive, I found it would sometimes "hang" which persisted through power cycling even if I left it for many minutes, when it did fire up, it worked really well, it just wouldn't boot, I got so fed up with it I converted it to a US Doubler instead and that works fine. I had a feeling it may be the ROM as I tested the SRAM chip and that was fine and these days who really needs a Happy to copy anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Funny to see this topic get bumped, as I just pulled my 1050 SA/bitwriter out of storage to play around with. I think it's time to purchase another 1050 and give it a Happy mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) On 9/14/2021 at 9:50 AM, TGB1718 said: I had a "Happy" drive, I found it would sometimes "hang" which persisted through power cycling even if I left it for many minutes, when it did fire up, it worked really well, it just wouldn't boot, It is not a firmware crash that persists power cycles. It's a failed power up that doesn't boot correctly. It happens with most original Happy 1050 boards from time to time. And when it happens it tends to happen a couple or more times in a row. I am curious exactly why. At one point I speculated that the ROM could power up in the "wrong" bank. But the ROM code seems to be ready to power up in either bank, at least in theory. It should be possible to trace the bus activity with a LA and see what's going on. But I was always a bit lazy to perform the test, especially considering that one might be too "lucky" and perform several power cycles with the instrument attached but always booting correctly. You power up the 1050, but nothing happens. Power led turns on, but otherwise everything is dead. Of course it doesn't happen very often. Anybody with a non original Happy, Atarimax or whatever, experienced the same issue? Edited September 17, 2021 by ijor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcamp48 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 It was a US Doubler that was in my 1050 , sorry but the guy that sold it to me accidently mislead me...I am going to get a Happy for the 1050, but right now I am more interested in loading wave files with the Atari 130 XE Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 19 hours ago, ijor said: It is not a firmware crash that persists power cycles. It's a failed power up that doesn't boot correctly. It happens with most original Happy 1050 boards from time to time. And when it happens it tends to happen a couple or more times in a row. I am curious exactly why. At one point I speculated that the ROM could power up in the "wrong" bank. But the ROM code seems to be ready to power up in either bank, at least in theory. It should be possible to trace the bus activity with a LA and see what's going on. But I was always a bit lazy to perform the test, especially considering that one might be too "lucky" and perform several power cycles with the instrument attached but always booting correctly. You power up the 1050, but nothing happens. Power led turns on, but otherwise everything is dead. Of course it doesn't happen very often. Anybody with a non original Happy, Atarimax or whatever, experienced the same issue? Interesting. I've had several Happy 810's and both genuine and clone 1050's, and have never seen this type behavior. The closest I've seen is when I would cycle the power too quickly and get a lock-up. Powering down and waiting maybe 10-15 seconds always took care of the problem. That Happy track buffer is really hard to beat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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