+arcadeshopper Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 testing on PI5 bookworm os without xwindows - fail display doesn't work no matter what I use.. bookworm with desktop - works fine, set up local tipi emu install with matt's updates for bookwork (not avail on public git yet) seems to run geneve at full speed imho I made a ti basic program in gpl that runs at about the same exact speed on the real geneve as the mame geneve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 @arcadeshopper Does this mean from MDOS you can telnet now? If so, that is EXCELLENT news. Still waiting for my PI5 to ship. Beery 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrodroid Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/10/2024 at 10:18 AM, retrodroid said: Okay, that took 22 minutes. Incredible the number of different platforms MAME supports these days. Anyone know if that's good/bad/ugly for a built time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 My times on different computers: Compiling with gcc make -j8 REGENIE=1 i7-7700K: 2773 secs (46 min 13 secs) i5-12600KF: 1424 secs (23 min 44 secs) i7-13700: 1132 secs (18 min 52 secs) I created a new build script containing all home computers of that time that I either had or that I knew of, but never got. Build time is 340 secs for my i5-12600KF: make -j12 SOURCES=src/mame/ti/ti99_4x.cpp,src/mame/ti/ti99_4p.cpp,src/mame/ti/ti99_8.cpp,src/mame/ti/geneve.cpp,src/mame/ti/ti99_2.cpp,src/mame/ti/cc40.cpp,src/mame/commodore/c64.cpp,src/mame/amiga/amiga.cpp,src/mame/commodore/vic20.cpp,src/mame/commodore/pet.cpp,src/mame/commodore/c128.cpp,src/mame/sinclair/zx.cpp,src/mame/sinclair/spectrum.cpp,src/mame/trs/coco3.cpp,src/mame/trs/dragon.cpp,src/mame/trs/trs80.cpp,src/mame/atari/atarist.cpp,src/mame/atari/a2600.cpp,src/mame/amstrad/amstrad.cpp REGENIE=1 (containing the TI family plus VIC20, C64, C128, PET, Amiga, ZX81, ZX Spectrum, TRS80, Tandy ColorComputer, Dragon 32/64, Atari ST, Atari 2600, and Amstrad 464/664). Contact me if you need ROMs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrodroid Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 16 hours ago, mizapf said: My times on different computers: Compiling with gcc make -j8 REGENIE=1 i7-7700K: 2773 secs (46 min 13 secs) i5-12600KF: 1424 secs (23 min 44 secs) i7-13700: 1132 secs (18 min 52 secs) I created a new build script containing all home computers of that time that I either had or that I knew of, but never got. Build time is 340 secs for my i5-12600KF: make -j12 OVERRIDE_CC=$GCC OVERRIDE_CXX=$GPP SOURCES=src/mame/ti/ti99_4x.cpp,src/mame/ti/ti99_4p.cpp,src/mame/ti/ti99_8.cpp,src/mame/ti/geneve.cpp,src/mame/ti/ti99_2.cpp,src/mame/ti/cc40.cpp,src/mame/commodore/c64.cpp,src/mame/amiga/amiga.cpp,src/mame/commodore/vic20.cpp,src/mame/commodore/pet.cpp,src/mame/commodore/c128.cpp,src/mame/sinclair/zx.cpp,src/mame/sinclair/spectrum.cpp,src/mame/trs/coco3.cpp,src/mame/trs/dragon.cpp,src/mame/trs/trs80.cpp,src/mame/atari/atarist.cpp,src/mame/atari/a2600.cpp,src/mame/amstrad/amstrad.cpp REGENIE=1 (containing the TI family plus VIC20, C64, C128, PET, Amiga, ZX81, ZX Spectrum, TRS80, Tandy ColorComputer, Dragon 32/64, Atari ST, Atari 2600, and Amstrad 464/664). Contact me if you need ROMs. So 22 mins is really decent. Incredible what this Apple Silicon is capable of with so little power consumption/heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 12/12/2023 at 6:32 AM, mizapf said: Hmm, still a bit slow. What do you get for a simple ./mame ti99_4a -bench 30 ./mame geneve -bench 30 (i.e. without any peripherals attached)? Just ran this with the geneve option and got 188% with the PI 5 and the OS that comes with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Sounds good. Let the normal Geneve boot and check the emulation speed after a minute of running. If it's still > 99%, the RPi 5 is again a good deal faster than the 4 and can finally run the Geneve emulation. The hardest test would then be the TI-99/8 with -hexbus hx5102 option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, mizapf said: Sounds good. Let the normal Geneve boot and check the emulation speed after a minute of running. If it's still > 99%, the RPi 5 is again a good deal faster than the 4 and can finally run the Geneve emulation. The hardest test would then be the TI-99/8 with -hexbus hx5102 option. mame geneve -bench 60 192% mame geneve -bench 120 193% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 tipi@rpigeneve:~/Desktop/MAME $ mame genmod -bios 2.00 -colorbus busmouse -peb:slot5 speech -peb:slot3 horizon -peb:slot4 speech -peb:slot2 memex -peb:slot8 hfdc -peb:slot8:hfdc:h1 generic -peb:slot8:hfdc:h2 generic -peb:slot8:hfdc:h3 generic -peb:slot8:hfdc:f3 525dd -peb:slot8:hfdc:f4 525dd -hard1 Bootdisk1.hd -hard2 Bootdisk2.hd -hard3 Bootdisk3.hd -flop1 dsdd1.dsk -flop2 dsdd2.dsk -flop3 dsdd3.dsk -flop4 dsdd4.dsk -peb:slot7 tipi -conn rpi.localhost -bench 60 /bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8) /bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8) V3D 7.1 not supported by this version of Mesa. libGL error: failed to create dri screen libGL error: failed to load driver: vc4 ALSA lib seq.c:935:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ default Average speed: 154.38% (59 seconds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Without -bench, that is, normal run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, mizapf said: Without -bench, that is, normal run. Bench was there. It was highlighted at the end of the very long command line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 No, I meant, please try it without -bench to get the real performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cozmos Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I had no idea that this thing played Dragon's Lair. Many moons ago I asked about it and Kurt Coder said it would never be implemented because it was an active franchise so I wonder what changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 It's not MAME emulating it, it's a program running on the emulated TI. So it is not an issue of MAME itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, mizapf said: No, I meant, please try it without -bench to get the real performance. Gotcha, mame genmod -bios 2.00 -colorbus busmouse -peb:slot5 speech -peb:slot3 horizon -peb:slot4 speech -peb:slot2 memex -peb:slot8 hfdc -peb:slot8:hfdc:h1 generic -peb:slot8:hfdc:h2 generic -peb:slot8:hfdc:h3 generic -peb:slot8:hfdc:f3 525dd -peb:slot8:hfdc:f4 525dd -hard1 Bootdisk1.hd -hard2 Bootdisk2.hd -hard3 Bootdisk3.hd -flop1 dsdd1.dsk -flop2 dsdd2.dsk -flop3 dsdd3.dsk -flop4 dsdd4.dsk -peb:slot7 tipi -conn rpi.localhost This gives 47.5% with pretty much everything loaded with a 1024*768 screen in mame.ini With an 800x600, I get 68.4%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 This is *way* too slow. We had such an issue with the Raspi5 some weeks ago already, so this looks like something odd. On the Raspi4 I get a 78% with graphics. Could you please try it with a reduced setup (including just the boot drive)? mame geneve -bios 2.00 -peb:slot5 speech -peb:slot8 hfdc -peb:slot8:hfdc:h1 generic -hard1 Bootdisk1.hd BTW, did you notice that you have two speech synthesizers in your setup thicket? Please also compare the respective performances for these three options: -video soft -video opengl -video bgfx with a 1024x768 window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 @mizapf OK No video options at 1024x768 62.77% Option with -video soft at 75.96% Option with -video opengl at 83.51% Option with -video bgfx at 63.00% On another note, all testing has been done with v .261. In the process of using GDM2K to copy files around, I have been getting MAME lockups. It seems to be less of an issue if I use the MDOS copy command, but VERY frequently with GDM2K so it is triggering something unexpected. It does not matter if I am trying to copy from a HRD, HDS drive, or from a TIPI connection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Copying between DSK1 and DSK2 with GDM2K did not cause any problems; I tried it 6 times in a row, from 2 to 1, from 1 to 2 etc., without lockups. I suppose HRD is Horizon; I'll try that next. How do I have to configure it for use in GeneveOS? (CRU base, Phoenix base, Split mode, Phoenix split) I guess I also need a REMAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I have the HRD's setup as: CRU 1600 Phoenix CRU Base OFF SW2 Hideswitch OFF JP4 Split Mode - Geneve Mode JP2 Phoenix Split - Off I also have a second HRD that would be at CRU 1400. I have tried eliminating one of the HFRD's just in case there was an issue with 2 present. As far as the Machine Configuration for the HRD's, I have them setup as below. I have tried changing circuit count and memory circuit type to 512 but that did not resolve the problem either. I have Memory Circuit count - 32 Memory circuit type - 128Kx8 DSR memory size - 8 KiB Optional 32Kib Memory Off RAMBO support - Off The drives are formatted with GenCFG provided below. In AUTOEXEC, I have the statements: LATDRIVE = P SCSMAP 39 SCSMAP 58 ASSIGN J=SCS3: ASSIGN N=SCS5: GENCFG.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, mizapf said: (CRU base, Phoenix base, Split mode, Phoenix split) Phoenix mode should not be used with GeneveOS. It is a deprecated hardware option that is not supported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+9640News Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 29 minutes ago, InsaneMultitasker said: Phoenix mode should not be used with GeneveOS. It is a deprecated hardware option that is not supported. I updated that field. I had it set to OFF, just did not write the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 37 minutes ago, 9640News said: I updated that field. I had it set to OFF, just did not write the word. Sounds good. I noticed you set JP4 to "Geneve". I am not sure what the right setting is here, as this jumper may be limited to Phoenix operation. I looked at the construction guide information for JP4, and must confess I don't quite understand the intent nor configuration options as documented. The guide will need to be updated to reflect the current state for the Geneve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 9 hours ago, InsaneMultitasker said: Sounds good. I noticed you set JP4 to "Geneve". I am not sure what the right setting is here, as this jumper may be limited to Phoenix operation. I looked at the construction guide information for JP4, and must confess I don't quite understand the intent nor configuration options as documented. The guide will need to be updated to reflect the current state for the Geneve. This is how I interpreted it: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/c28177f9060a1449096a7e3c30d55c4d54b923ad/src/devices/bus/ti99/peb/horizon.cpp Maybe you can have a quick glance at the top comments, see whether I got it right. At least it is the base on which I emulate the HRD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/4/2024 at 2:00 PM, Captain Cozmos said: I had no idea that this thing played Dragon's Lair. Many moons ago I asked about it and Kurt Coder said it would never be implemented because it was an active franchise so I wonder what changed. non sequitor? did you mean to post this to the mame thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 I understood his comment in the way that there is an arcade version of Dragon's Lair, and that one is what Kurt Coder referred to as not possible to implement. In our case, though, MAME has nothing to do with the implementation of DL by Tursi. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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