Wyluli Wolf Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) I found these files on the web for the Atari Jaguar console PCB. According to the Readme.txt file it contains files in Gerber format: "500350.1 TOP SIDE IN GERBER FORMAT 500350.3 BOTTOM SIDE IN GERBER FORMAT 500350.SM1 SOLDER MASK TOP SIDE IN GERBER FORMAT 500350.SM3 SOLDER MASK BOTTOM SIDE IN GERBER FORMAT" Yet none of these files appear to be in actual Gerber format. What gives? Is there a way to view the files in 500350.1? Can these be turned into actual Gerber format? This is what I would expect to see for Gerber format: Top layer: .GTL Bottom layer: .GBL Solder Stop Mask top: .GTS Solder Stop Mask Bottom:.GBS Silk Top: pcbname .GTO Silk Bottom: pcbname .GBO NC Drill: pcbname .TXT Mechanical layer : .GML - Wolf Edited July 23, 2017 by Wyluli Wolf Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Interesting files. The RPT file contains the sizes for the drills located in DRL file. The .1 .3 .S1 .S3 .SM1 .SM3 .SP1 and .SP3 and .GND files are Gerber files, and the USR file contains the mappings from D?? tools to pad sizes and line sizes. Surely should be distributed between cooper, solder mask, silk layers, ground cooper and I cannot figure right now the other. The .XY file marks the positions for auto-mounting the pieces. I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Further note: the extensions doesn't mean anything, all programs have these non-standard. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyluli Wolf Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Further note: the extensions doesn't mean anything, all programs have these non-standard. Hmmm. I sent these to a manufacturer out of curiosity. They said they were not in the proper format and could not be used.... They expect to see these files/extensions: Top layer: .GTL Bottom layer: .GBL Solder Stop Mask top: .GTS Solder Stop Mask Bottom:.GBS Silk Top: pcbname .GTO Silk Bottom: pcbname .GBO NC Drill: pcbname .TXT Mechanical layer : .GML Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Then you should rename the files. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 It looks like the format isn't set in the gerber files, so you'll need to figure out the scale and such... visit here to view them online: http://www.gerber-viewer.com/ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyluli Wolf Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 It looks like the format isn't set in the gerber files, so you'll need to figure out the scale and such... visit here to view them online: http://www.gerber-viewer.com/ That is actually the first place I tried to view the files. It doesn't show anything as it can't read them. Thanks for the info tho! I do appreciate it! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Moss Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I had a quick look on online and .GBL are supposed to be Gerber files in the RS-274X format (I did not think that format a was around back) and suggests that LogoMaker and Altium designer could be use to open them and another source that suggests Autodesk Eagle, Viewplot and Gerbv can open them. I just found two sources which say that 274X format was not release until 1998 so the files are probably in the older RS-274D format thus you may have trouble viewing them as most viewers will probably only support the more modern 274X and ODB++ (released in 1997, ODB relased in 1995 was probably too late to be used for the Jag). 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwilkson Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) These files are viewable using GC-Preview. There is a free version available for download from the Graphicode website.. Edited July 25, 2017 by cwilkson Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyluli Wolf Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 I had a quick look on online and .GBL are supposed to be Gerber files in the RS-274X format (I did not think that format a was around back) and suggests that LogoMaker and Altium designer could be use to open them and another source that suggests Autodesk Eagle, Viewplot and Gerbv can open them. I just found two sources which say that 274X format was not release until 1998 so the files are probably in the older RS-274D format thus you may have trouble viewing them as most viewers will probably only support the more modern 274X and ODB++ (released in 1997, ODB relased in 1995 was probably too late to be used for the Jag). Thank you for this info. I think you are correct that these are in the old RS-274D format. I did some digging and it looks like the old files can be converted. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like a simple process (it doesn't help when you have no idea what you are doing - lol). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3813746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Moss Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 You could try using http://www.wizards.de/phil/java/rs274x.html, http://www.gerbview.com/index.html or https://www.numericalinnovations.com/collections/fab-3000-gerber-cam to view it as they all claim to support 274D. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-3814103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alk0v Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Could you share this gerber files? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/268096-confusing-gerber-files-for-atari-jaguar-console-pcb/#findComment-4775850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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