Intellivision Amico’s trademark changed to ‘abandoned’

[number6]

39 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

BUT THEY LOVE HIS CHARISMA! Those moms would buy them all!

You and Rev both mentioned the economy. It basically makes the last 50 pages here about best and worst case scenarios for Amico irrelevant since discretionary spending in 2023 will be at a premium. (yes, even at QVC pricing levels)  Read more about what poor and "so-called" middle class are cutting just to survive these days and it becomes quite apparent.

 

#6

[atarifan88]

12 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

The labeling of everything as a WIP is a way to ignore and deflect criticism. Battle Tanks wasn't listed as WIP until multiple uploads after people found the stolen assets.

 

What is worse is that the hardware appears to struggle even with these games.

I agree with this. From what they've shown I wouldn't pay more than $5 on these games on my Switch. I was interested in Cloudy Mountain, even it is competing with $$$ with games like this on Switch that often goes on sale for around 5-10. https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/torchlight-ii-switch/

These switch games remind me of the Amico version of Cloudy Mountain. Watch the videos and you will see the similarity...

https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/throne-quest-deluxe-switch/

https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/mana-spark-switch/

 

I don't have them yet, but are on my list to get.

[atarifan88]

11 hours ago, SegaSnatcher said:

This has to be Amico related.  Though, some speculate its might be a fake story, but I wouldn't doubt something like this could happen. 

 

Must be DJC's wife!!! 😲😁🤣

[Hwlngmad]

12 hours ago, SegaSnatcher said:

This has to be Amico related.  Though, some speculate its might be a fake story, but I wouldn't doubt something like this could happen. 

 

Damn, that is sad if actually true.  Then again, considering some of shenanigans and drama that has surrounded the Amico, it is not so farfetched imo.

[Bill Loguidice]

13 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

That doesn’t make much sense to me. @Bill Loguidice can you share why there was never another Colecovision or Intellivision Flashback from AtGames? I thought it was because of lackluster sales of anything except for their Sega and Atari plug and plays. 

There's a bit more to it than that that I really can't get into, but at its simplest, yes, they didn't sell in the way retailers expected. 

[MrBeefy]

1 hour ago, atarifan88 said:

These switch games remind me of the Amico version of Cloudy Mountain. Watch the videos and you will see the similarity...

https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/throne-quest-deluxe-switch/

https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/mana-spark-switch/

 

I don't have them yet, but are on my list to get.

I just wishlists throne quest. I can vouch for Mana Spark. It is the longest short dungeon crawl. It isn't a huge game but has some difficulty. I died a lot but always felt like it was my fault and was ready to jump back in.

 

I would recommend the DLC as it will add some items that are helpful and the ability to do 2 player local if you choose. It also adds another dungeon iirc. Looks like the game and DLC are both $2. I would say it is worth $4. Or you could buy it at $2 and see if it's worth dropping the extra $2 on. Mana Spark definitely has more personality than Cloudy.

 

I think they should have started with software and not gone the hardware route. That being said if their games stayed at the same quality I think they would get lost in the shuffle with games like Mana Spark. Intellivision just doesn't have the name recognition like Atari.

8 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said:

There's a bit more to it than that that I really can't get into, but at its simplest, yes, they didn't sell in the way retailers expected. 

Are you trying to say, IT'S NOT FOR THEM!?

 

 

[MrBeefy]

Well Evercan what Amican't....

 

https://ricedigital.co.uk/evercade-exp-capcom-games-included/

 

Evercade is making Amico look like small time losers.

 

600 years experience....

 

 

 

 

 

[IMBerzerk]

On 9/1/2022 at 6:12 AM, CurlyQ said:

How about an Intellivision Flipcade?

 

As crazy as some of your artwork and ideas sometimes are... This one.. this is a really good idea and most likely could be made with a PiZero and some good plastic engineering.  

 

You might actually be on to something.  Lol.  Probably would do a lot better than anything has before it.  I'd be in for multiple units. 

[MrBeefy]

5 hours ago, number6 said:

You and Rev both mentioned the economy. It basically makes the last 50 pages here about best and worst case scenarios for Amico irrelevant since discretionary spending in 2023 will be at a premium. (yes, even at QVC pricing levels)  Read more about what poor and "so-called" middle class are cutting just to survive these days and it becomes quite apparent.

 

#6

What are you talking about? There is great VALUE in Amico! It comes with 6 PREMIUM games. If you take 6 X $60 that's like $360! So if you buy the console at $350 it is like they are putting $210 in your pocket!

 

If you bought that many porn Switch games and wanted to play with friends it would cost you an entire suburban community. That's why soccer moms prefer Amico. They don't have to give up their cushy suburban lifestyle to have family fun like they would on that porn machine!

[number6]

1 hour ago, MrBeefy said:

What are you talking about? There is great VALUE in Amico! It comes with 6 PREMIUM games. If you take 6 X $60 that's like $360! So if you buy the console at $350 it is like they are putting $210 in your pocket!

 

If you bought that many porn Switch games and wanted to play with friends it would cost you an entire suburban community. That's why soccer moms prefer Amico. They don't have to give up their cushy suburban lifestyle to have family fun like they would on that porn machine!

Me crosses your name off my list of potential economic advisors (evil grin)

 

#6

[Hydro Thunder]

Without going too far off topic, I was seeing some predictions that 2023 is going to be a big swing upwards for consumer spending and disposable income.  Obviously hard to predict due to a huge number of factors...but a 2023 launch could well favor the Amico if it ever chooses to exist

[Wayler]

4 hours ago, Hydro Thunder said:

Without going too far off topic, I was seeing some predictions that 2023 is going to be a big swing upwards for consumer spending and disposable income.  Obviously hard to predict due to a huge number of factors...but a 2023 launch could well favor the Amico if it ever chooses to exist

Yes, here in Europe as the crippling energy crisis is upon us this coming winter and the fun times ahead as Russia's neighbour, I can't wait to spend my "disposable" income on the Amico!

 

 

[roots.genoa]

6 hours ago, Hydro Thunder said:

if it ever chooses to exist

Also I'm not sure whether "choose" is the right word here. 😅

[jerseystyle]

1 hour ago, roots.genoa said:

Also I'm not sure whether "choose" is the right word here. 😅

No let’s all just calm down and wait for Mr_Me to parse out what “exists” means.

[MrBeefy]

22 minutes ago, jerseystyle said:

No let’s all just calm down and wait for Mr_Me to parse out what “exists” means.

THEY'VE SHOWN IT IN PUBLIC YOU GATEKEEPING!

 

With the last update from IE it shows that I was right that they never had a manufacture ready unit. So people could call those prototypes, but it is hard saying what type of boards and such were in there.

 

No matter how diehards want to spin it, it doesn't exist in any meaningful way. Even if it launches it will basically reach the starting line on its death bed. You can already see some of them prepping for the moving of goalposts again talking about how "worried" or whatever haters are that it's getting made. 

 

Their level of copium from their Amicolyte devotion to an unreleased toy is hilarious. 

[IntyFanMatt]

4 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

Even if it launches it will basically reach the starting line on its death bed.

^THIS^

 

Even if the miracle does happen where it’s actually released, there is no way this thing is going to survive in the wild. It’ll basically be DOA.

[mr_me]

On 8/30/2022 at 10:56 PM, rayik said:

 

Are you sure about that?  Engineers have said they passed preliminary FCC testing.  If that engineer's statement is true, and if preliminary FCC testing is a real thing, then FCC certification is just a formality that can be obtained at any time.

If all they did was pass fcc preliminary testing, that would tell them their prototype is fcc compliant.  They would still have to submit a unit for certifications.

 

4 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

THEY'VE SHOWN IT IN PUBLIC YOU GATEKEEPING!

 

With the last update from IE it shows that I was right that they never had a manufacture ready unit. So people could call those prototypes, but it is hard saying what type of boards and such were in there.

 

No matter how diehards want to spin it, it doesn't exist in any meaningful way. Even if it launches it will basically reach the starting line on its death bed. You can already see some of them prepping for the moving of goalposts again talking about how "worried" or whatever haters are that it's getting made. 

 

Their level of copium from their Amicolyte devotion to an unreleased toy is hilarious. 

Whether they are in a manufacturer or not, the problem they talked about had to do with a production process not the design of the prototype hardware or software.  So that doesn't mean they didn't have a manufacture ready prototype.  And even though their update talks about production lines and a pilot run, we don't know if they are actually in a manufacturer.

 

The first production units and pilot production units can still be called prototypes, they can also be called production units.  Even if they do a successful pilot production run in a manufacturer they might still be a ways away from a small mass production run due to financing, component supply etc.  That would mean people might still be waiting to see fcc certification, for those concerned about that.

[Wayler]

A bowel movement manufactures production units but they can also be called something else. 

[Tinman]

1 hour ago, IntyFanMatt said:

^THIS^

 

Even if the miracle does happen where it’s actually released, there is no way this thing is going to survive in the wild. It’ll basically be DOA.

This is sadly almost certainly true.  I’m probably about the only one, but I’d still probably buy it, mostly because I want a modern Intellivision sitting next to my modern Atari.  Just like in the olden days.

[MrBeefy]

1 hour ago, IntyFanMatt said:

^THIS^

 

Even if the miracle does happen where it’s actually released, there is no way this thing is going to survive in the wild. It’ll basically be DOA.

Can anyone actually see a path to success at this point? All evidence points to it being a flop and has fewer preorders than the VCS.

29 minutes ago, Wayler said:

A bowel movement manufactures production units but they can also be called something else. 

I make at least one Amico everyday.

27 minutes ago, Tinman said:

This is sadly almost certainly true.  I’m probably about the only one, but I’d still probably buy it, mostly because I want a modern Intellivision sitting next to my modern Atari.  Just like in the olden days.

I'm curious. Do you feel like buying things in this way just encourages people to pump out shit products while preying on nostalgia? Like why would they put out a quality product knowing people will buy it because of the name?

[+GoldLeader]

15 hours ago, Hydro Thunder said:

Without going too far off topic, I was seeing some predictions that 2023 is going to be a big swing upwards for consumer spending and disposable income.  Obviously hard to predict due to a huge number of factors...but a 2023 launch could well favor the Amico if it ever chooses to exist

I heard that one of the engineers said it could choose to exist if it rechose after resubmitting to choose again...

10 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

 

I make at least one Amico everyday.

 

Just be sure to wipe your Tallarico.

[roots.genoa]

Because of my meds, I often can't produce an Amico for 4 to 5 days (before producing a lot of them in one manufacture run fortunately). 😔

[Hydro Thunder]

I have neighbors that have signs telling me not to let my dog produce Amicos on their lawn.  I assume this is because it hasn't passed FCC certification yet, so they could be radioactive af and kill the grass.

[IntyFanMatt]

1 hour ago, MrBeefy said:

Can anyone actually see a path to success at this point? All evidence points to it being a flop and has fewer preorders than the VCS.

[rayik]

2 hours ago, mr_me said:

If all they did was pass fcc preliminary testing, that would tell them their prototype is fcc compliant.  They would still have to submit a unit for certifications.

 

Whether they are in a manufacturer or not, the problem they talked about had to do with a production process not the design of the prototype hardware or software.  So that doesn't mean they didn't have a manufacture ready prototype.  And even though their update talks about production lines and a pilot run, we don't know if they are actually in a manufacturer.

 

The first production units and pilot production units can still be called prototypes, they can also be called production units.  Even if they do a successful pilot production run in a manufacturer they might still be a ways away from a small mass production run due to financing, component supply etc.  That would mean people might still be waiting to see fcc certification, for those concerned about that.

One needs to weigh the credibility of what IE says and have that analysis as part  of the conversation. There is no point in having a discussion without considering whether what IE says is believable. 

Edited September 3, 2022 by rayik