Intellivision Amico’s trademark changed to ‘abandoned’

[jerseystyle]

On 6/8/2023 at 12:40 PM, mr_me said:

 

 

This thread has a weird obsession with the same individual.

Wait, hold on a tic… no one here SAID, with words, they were obsessed with anyone. So, going by what you said repeatedly a few weeks back, you are claiming things to be said that weren’t said, which, according to you, is harassment.  Why are you able to engage in that behavior but others are called bullies, or worse? It’s almost like… no…it can’t be but… it’s almost like… you aren’t sincere in your responses and you’re not engaging in a good faith conversation? 

 

Edited June 11, 2023 by jerseystyle

[MrBeefy]

5 hours ago, jerseystyle said:

Wait, hold on a tic… no one here SAID, with words, they were obsessed with anyone. So, going by what you said repeatedly a few weeks back, you are claiming things to be said that weren’t said, which, according to you, is harassment.  Why are you able to engage in that behavior but others are called bullies, or worse? It’s almost like… no…it can’t be but… it’s almost like… you aren’t sincere in your responses and you’re not engaging in a good faith conversation? 

 

NAILED IT!

[digdugnate]

21 hours ago, jerseystyle said:

Wait, hold on a tic… no one here SAID, with words, they were obsessed with anyone. So, going by what you said repeatedly a few weeks back, you are claiming things to be said that weren’t said, which, according to you, is harassment.  Why are you able to engage in that behavior but others are called bullies, or worse? It’s almost like… no…it can’t be but… it’s almost like… you aren’t sincere in your responses and you’re not engaging in a good faith conversation? 

 

[digdugnate]

Looks like one month till the case management conference for Amur lawsuit.

 

https://unicourt.com/case/ca-ora-amur-equipment-finance-inc-vs-intellivision-entertainment-llc-1241254

[Flojomojo]

1 hour ago, digdugnate said:

Looks like one month till the case management conference for Amur lawsuit.

 

https://unicourt.com/case/ca-ora-amur-equipment-finance-inc-vs-intellivision-entertainment-llc-1241254

My predictions:

 

1. (most likely) They settle privately in the next month, probably right before the deadline, in a way that we can't see how much $hit @Tommy Tallarico had to eat. Ideally, Intellivision Entertainment could divert some of the proceeds from their Astrosmash/Shark!Shark! sale to BBG so that they fulfill their obligations. 

 

2. (pretty likely) More delays and excuses, as we have come to expect from Phil Adam and others.

 

3. (not at all likely) Drama! Foolishness! Memorably stupid statements like "they're literally gaming racists!" from the industry legend as he rides the bomb all the way down.

 

[MattPilz]

2 hours ago, digdugnate said:

Looks like one month till the case management conference for Amur lawsuit.

The state of Intellivision's finances would had been a helpful addendum to last month's update. Six figures in outstanding debt for a furniture lease is rough. There were many much higher loans borrowed in 2019-2020 that are reaching maturity, too. Intellivision hadn't paid interest let alone principal for most of those as of Jan. 2022. Nick said he was working on releasing the 2021 financial disclosures during the StartEngine campaign but that never happened, so it's unclear how many more debts they amassed in 2021-2022.

 

From a gaming and historic perspective it upsets me to see how Intellivision is now outright selling off IPs and copyrights of their original library (this is far different than "licensing deals"), and none of those deals will even come close to settling all these financial grievances. I don't understand how the company is even pretending to still be in operation when their own disclosures 18 months ago said: "If no other sources of capital are raised and if only the minimum ($10,000) is raised as part of the CF offering the company would only have operating cash for one to two months." If we take Phil's word, he is not being paid anything for his continued work on this, so the line is blurred over whether this is still an actual business or just some occasional volunteer efforts to keep straggling it along.

Edited June 12, 2023 by MattPilz

[Rowsdower70]

10 minutes ago, MattPilz said:

If we take Phil's word

I'm pretty sure only DJC, Mullis, and MrRedditshreddit are the only ones left making that mistake. 

[digdugnate]

1 hour ago, Flojomojo said:

My predictions:

 

1. (most likely) They settle privately in the next month, probably right before the deadline, in a way that we can't see how much $hit @Tommy Tallarico had to eat. Ideally, Intellivision Entertainment could divert some of the proceeds from their Astrosmash/Shark!Shark! sale to BBG so that they fulfill their obligations. 

 

2. (pretty likely) More delays and excuses, as we have come to expect from Phil Adam and others.

 

3. (not at all likely) Drama! Foolishness! Memorably stupid statements like "they're literally gaming racists!" from the industry legend as he rides the bomb all the way down.

 

[Rev]

https://www.trademarkelite.com/europe/trademark/trademark-owner/BBG Entertainment GmbH/566905
 

Astrosmash and Shark Shark Trademark filings. 

[+GoldLeader]

There was a point,  much earlier in all of this...(Not knowing what I know NOW),  where I became disinterested in the Amico Saga and basically quit following along.  I knew Tommy was full of it (for Me,  it was one of those moments where someone asked a simple,  honest question (don't remember which one) and TT responded with the usual craphash of Market Research, We have DATA, Family Friendly,  Big Investor,  You're talking to a brick wall of stupidity,  I'm never going to answer but will talk down to you now morass of Tommyness...And, going forward,  I couldn't help but tune him out),  and I knew console-wise (assuming for the sake of argument that the thing was coming out) that this "wasn't for me";  The Controller,  The Games, the Style of games,  and even the Look of the thing all turned me off Entirely...

 

So I missed key points the first time around...

 

And while I'm not saying this (forthcoming blast from the past) absolves responsibility, (Especially of Mods in TT's back pocket, etc.),  There was a post in the past that was pivotal in no longer allowing Tommy to be Tommy...Shutting him down with regards to treating AtariAge like his own personal playground.

 

Because I didn't realize the significance of this the first time around...I'd like to leave this here for posterity.  (Well Done Al!!)

 

 

[Flojomojo]

[Flojomojo]

1 hour ago, Rev said:

https://www.trademarkelite.com/europe/trademark/trademark-owner/BBG Entertainment GmbH/566905
 

Astrosmash and Shark Shark Trademark filings. 

Also Miner 2049er, which (along with its sequel) was the only 3rd party software on Atari 50. 

 

Observed: Lock n Chase, Burger Time (formerly Data East, and both appeared on Intellivision many years ago), as well as Colecovision oldies ports Astro Chase and Space Panic. 

 

Conspicuous in its absence: Bump N Jump/Burning Rubber, which was also on Intellivision many years ago. I've seen Coleco holdings attempt to claim this game, but not sure if it succeeded. 

 

These are European trademarks so United States enforcement will probably be completely different. 

And Tomba!?  What is that doing there?

 

[Rev]

4 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

Also Miner 2049er, which (along with its sequel) was the only 3rd party software on Atari 50. 

 

Observed: Lock n Chase, Burger Time (formerly Data East, and both appeared on Intellivision many years ago), as well as Colecovision oldies ports Astro Chase and Space Panic. 

 

Conspicuous in its absence: Bump N Jump/Burning Rubber, which was also on Intellivision many years ago. I've seen Coleco holdings attempt to claim this game, but not sure if it succeeded. 

 

These are European trademarks so United States enforcement will probably be completely different. 

And Tomba!?  What is that doing there?

 

BBG has enough IP to start making their own console. 
 

Where do we sign up for crowdfunding!!!!  
 

I think the owner of BBG is a guy named Donny Dallarico and drives a blue Porsche.   What could possibly go wrong?

[Razzie.P]

1 hour ago, Rev said:

BBG has enough IP to start making their own console. 
 

Where do we sign up for crowdfunding!!!!  
 

I think the owner of BBG is a guy named Donny Dallarico and drives a blue Porsche.   What could possibly go wrong?

Would not that be a thing? ™

[Cebus Capucinis]

1 hour ago, Rev said:

I think the owner of BBG is a guy named Donny Dallarico and drives a blue Porsche.   What could possibly go wrong?

That's a great idea. Why, just the other day I overheard his father saying how very proud of him he was.

 

The console's already on the landing pad, we just need more electricity to bring the gear down and bring it home!

[Wayler]

10 hours ago, GoldLeader said:

There was a post in the past that was pivotal in no longer allowing Tommy to be Tommy...Shutting him down with regards to treating AtariAge like his own personal playground.

 

Because I didn't realize the significance of this the first time around...I'd like to leave this here for posterity.  (Well Done Al!!)

 

Initially it was a good decision to close it off, if way, way too late. Let the situation de-escalate and remove the bad actors from the pool. But to remove it completely from the face of the earth? No, a deplorable decision that only leaves one to wonder if there is more behind it.

 

Here we are 300 pages into this post-mortem but there is no body to examine. Helpful individuals have provided us a replication corpse to study but it isn't the real thing. Maybe it was the intention to let the original husk of a carcass to gently mummify in the basement and be forgotten. But it is not going to mummify but just keeps rotting away and leaving an ugly stench to this whole place. Shameful. 

 

[roots.genoa]

4 hours ago, Rev said:

I think the owner of BBG is a guy named Donny Dallarico and drives a blue Porsche.

Indeed. I heard he's a huge Batman fan and collector, he only eats meat and sleeps almost all day long, like a cat. He has 600 years of experience doing graphics for more than 500 video games, and his father is indeed very proud as Cebus told us above. He has a Guinness record for the largest sprite in 16 colors ever drawn, and another one for the biggest amount of times he had to redo a background because his boss wasn't satisfied (126 times). His favorite movie is the first Rambo and his creed is to destroy everything like Rambo if he doesn't get what he wants. Works every time. 😎

[mr_me]

20 hours ago, MattPilz said:

The state of Intellivision's finances would had been a helpful addendum to last month's update. Six figures in outstanding debt for a furniture lease is rough. There were many much higher loans borrowed in 2019-2020 that are reaching maturity, too. Intellivision hadn't paid interest let alone principal for most of those as of Jan. 2022. Nick said he was working on releasing the 2021 financial disclosures during the StartEngine campaign but that never happened, so it's unclear how many more debts they amassed in 2021-2022.

 

From a gaming and historic perspective it upsets me to see how Intellivision is now outright selling off IPs and copyrights of their original library (this is far different than "licensing deals"), and none of those deals will even come close to settling all these financial grievances. I don't understand how the company is even pretending to still be in operation when their own disclosures 18 months ago said: "If no other sources of capital are raised and if only the minimum ($10,000) is raised as part of the CF offering the company would only have operating cash for one to two months." If we take Phil's word, he is not being paid anything for his continued work on this, so the line is blurred over whether this is still an actual business or just some occasional volunteer efforts to keep straggling it along.

The risk disclosure shared in 2022 had loan activity through 2021.  Then in 2022, without revenue, the company effectively shutdown.  Most of their loans are from board members who are also equity stakeholders.  There are still other loans that they'd have to deal with that could potentially force bankruptcy action.  But anything can be revived.  A few years ago Atari SA went through a bankruptcy liquidation sale, that's when they lost Battlezone. 

 

17 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

Also Miner 2049er, which (along with its sequel) was the only 3rd party software on Atari 50. 

 

Observed: Lock n Chase, Burger Time (formerly Data East, and both appeared on Intellivision many years ago), as well as Colecovision oldies ports Astro Chase and Space Panic. 

 

Conspicuous in its absence: Bump N Jump/Burning Rubber, which was also on Intellivision many years ago. I've seen Coleco holdings attempt to claim this game, but not sure if it succeeded. 

 

These are European trademarks so United States enforcement will probably be completely different. 

And Tomba!?  What is that doing there?

 

Trademarks aren't games.  To put a game like Miner 2049er in a collection you'd need to licence the copyrights not necessarily the trademark.  Even filing a trademark doesn't mean much without having a product in the market.

[number6]

18 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

Conspicuous in its absence: Bump N Jump/Burning Rubber, which was also on Intellivision many years ago. I've seen Coleco holdings attempt to claim this game, but not sure if it succeeded. 

Not really since Bump 'N' Jump is still a trademark filing by IE in the U.S.

Granted that if IE fails to show "use" after hitting their extension limit, BBG could have a go at it. Ditto for Jungle Hunt.

 

#6

[number6]

@Cebus Capucinis

 

Reference for following question

 

I'll wait 24 hours just in case...but it seems IE missed another filing date for extension to show use of trademark. If you recall, this also took place with "Intellivision Together Again", which was judged "abandoned" by uspto, followed by IE filing for revival which was accepted by uspto.

 

My question is this:

Given such a filing as the one referred to at top would also have to show business address, could they possibly have failed to file knowing they might get flagged again by uspto for failure to supply a physical business address? And...could this failure to file be a strategy to delay filing a physical business address?

 

Again, if this situation changes by tomorrow, I'll update and correct this posting.

 

Thanks.

 

#6

[Wayler]

58 minutes ago, number6 said:

could this failure to file be a strategy to delay filing a physical business address?

Your thinking is too complex, we are talking about Intellivision after all. 

 

Phil is just still trying to correctly spell his home address on Västerås, Sweden with his damnfangled American keyboard. 

[number6]

16 minutes ago, Wayler said:

Your thinking is too complex, we are talking about Intellivision after all. 

 

Phil is just still trying to correctly spell his home address on Västerås, Sweden with his damnfangled American keyboard. 

What we do know from the Amur lawsuit is that they were trying to connect names/addresses and had (to date of filing) -not- been able to contact principals.

imo it's rather transparent why there is no burning desire for IE to tell anyone where they are. 

 

#6

[MrBeefy]

On 6/12/2023 at 2:13 PM, MattPilz said:

The state of Intellivision's finances would had been a helpful addendum to last month's update. Six figures in outstanding debt for a furniture lease is rough. There were many much higher loans borrowed in 2019-2020 that are reaching maturity, too. Intellivision hadn't paid interest let alone principal for most of those as of Jan. 2022. Nick said he was working on releasing the 2021 financial disclosures during the StartEngine campaign but that never happened, so it's unclear how many more debts they amassed in 2021-2022.

 

From a gaming and historic perspective it upsets me to see how Intellivision is now outright selling off IPs and copyrights of their original library (this is far different than "licensing deals"), and none of those deals will even come close to settling all these financial grievances. I don't understand how the company is even pretending to still be in operation when their own disclosures 18 months ago said: "If no other sources of capital are raised and if only the minimum ($10,000) is raised as part of the CF offering the company would only have operating cash for one to two months." If we take Phil's word, he is not being paid anything for his continued work on this, so the line is blurred over whether this is still an actual business or just some occasional volunteer efforts to keep straggling it along.

This is simple. Fire everyone but a few. Sell off IPs, and give yourself a paycheck. It is obvious the funds didn't go to refunding people.

On 6/12/2023 at 2:55 PM, Rev said:

https://www.trademarkelite.com/europe/trademark/trademark-owner/BBG Entertainment GmbH/566905
 

Astrosmash and Shark Shark Trademark filings. 

I love how Brain Duel has been registered since 2014. Did 't Tommy claim somewhere he picked the name? 🤣

On 6/12/2023 at 3:07 PM, GoldLeader said:

There was a point,  much earlier in all of this...(Not knowing what I know NOW),  where I became disinterested in the Amico Saga and basically quit following along.  I knew Tommy was full of it (for Me,  it was one of those moments where someone asked a simple,  honest question (don't remember which one) and TT responded with the usual craphash of Market Research, We have DATA, Family Friendly,  Big Investor,  You're talking to a brick wall of stupidity,  I'm never going to answer but will talk down to you now morass of Tommyness...And, going forward,  I couldn't help but tune him out),  and I knew console-wise (assuming for the sake of argument that the thing was coming out) that this "wasn't for me";  The Controller,  The Games, the Style of games,  and even the Look of the thing all turned me off Entirely...

 

So I missed key points the first time around...

 

And while I'm not saying this (forthcoming blast from the past) absolves responsibility, (Especially of Mods in TT's back pocket, etc.),  There was a post in the past that was pivotal in no longer allowing Tommy to be Tommy...Shutting him down with regards to treating AtariAge like his own personal playground.

 

Because I didn't realize the significance of this the first time around...I'd like to leave this here for posterity.  (Well Done Al!!)

 

 

I still find it funny that one of his last 6 or 7 posts was saying that I should go apologize to my family (Al or another mod deleted it). It was pretty funny coming from a childless grandpa aged man who pushed off having a family to giving 100% in shitting his pants not making a console and failing hard, while having "all" his BS exposed by hbomberguy.

 

I mean I am impressed by the level of incompetence that was shown. So, he has that going for him.

 

Anyone want to come over play some Cornhole and play some Switch porn while having a brew let me know. It's beautiful outside.

[Rowsdower70]

12 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

 

 

Anyone want to come over play some Cornhole and play some Switch porn while having a brew let me know. It's beautiful outside.

You're gonna have to change your name to MrChickeny!

[MrBeefy]

4 minutes ago, Rowsdower70 said:

You're gonna have to change your name to MrChickeny!

It's in honor of the former CEO who ran off to play backgammon and was too chicken to release the industry disrupting console.

 

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