Atari ST newbie with questions Netusbee UltraSatan etc.

[tlgrooms]

Just purchased an Atari STFM.  Going to hook a Gotek drive and Wimodem32 to it so I can get on some BBSes.  Wondering which would be best to get next, a Netusbee or UltraSatan?

Can the usb port on the Netusbee be used with a thumbdrive as a hard disk to run programs from or is it only for copying stuff over something like the UltraSatan?

Is there a tcp/ip stack for the st that I can use to access the internet with the Netusbee?

 

Also, is there anyone in the states that sells the SD4ST+?  I see the Brewing Academy sells both the Netusbee and UltraSatan.

 

Thanks for any info.  Never used an ST of any kind before.

 

[Tillek]

Would be great to see you on the BBSes.

 

www.sfhqbbs.org/ataribbslist.php

 

As for the rest of it, I'm not really sure the NetUSBee is going to be fast enough to use as a hard drive, but if you have the UltraSatan you've kinda got that covered.  Not really sure what you'd do with the SD4ST+ and UltraSatan together.

 

Unless you want to use the NetUSBee for other things (other than thumb drives and such) I'd probably suggest going with the UltraSatan and see how complete your life feels after that.

 

[TGB1718]

9 minutes ago, tlgrooms said:

Can the usb port on the Netusbee be used with a thumbdrive as a hard disk to run programs from or is it only for copying stuff over something like the UltraSatan?

Yes it can, you can mount the partitions as drives, you cannot boot from them though, you need to boot from floppy or hard disk

with the drivers for NETUSBEE, the drivers have to be put in the AUTO folder in the correct order to work.

 

I currently have a "real" hard drive to boot from and 2 USB sticks in the NETUSBEE mapped as further hard drives,

so an UltraSatan could be useful if your planning to get one.

 

The network on NETUSBEE works with a program called UIP which allows you to open a browser window on a PC/MAC

you can then copy files to/from the ST.

 

[TGB1718]

5 minutes ago, Tillek said:

Unless you want to use the NetUSBee for other things

I use the thumb drives as a backup for the hard drive, loading files from a thumb drive is relatively quick.

 

Should say also, if I don't have the hard drive attached and boot from floppy, it mounts the thumb

drives as hard disks and I can run the system that way (recently had a hard disk failure, this was a lifesaver).

Edited February 9 by TGB1718

[Tillek]

6 hours ago, TGB1718 said:

I use the thumb drives as a backup for the hard drive, loading files from a thumb drive is relatively quick.

 

Should say also, if I don't have the hard drive attached and boot from floppy, it mounts the thumb

drives as hard disks and I can run the system that way (recently had a hard disk failure, this was a lifesaver).

Well, true... but if you already have an UltraSatan, there are 2 SD card slots.  So all I'm really saying is that if you are going to get an UltraSatan, getting a NetUSBee JUST for the thumb drive is probably not going to wow anyone... Though if you aren't going to get the UltraSatan... that's a different story.

 

But that's just my 2 cents on it.... YMMV.

 

[TGB1718]

12 hours ago, Tillek said:

Well, true... but if you already have an UltraSatan, there are 2 SD card slots.

Totally agree, but for those with a real hard drive, it's a really nice backup device.

[+DarkLord]

Have to admit, I kinda don't get this either...

 

I mean, I've got 2 internal Ultrasatan's, one in my Mega STe and one in

my STacy. Both have 2 card slots. Backing up is as simple as sticking another

SD card in and copying the entire contents of your primary drive(s) onto the

2nd card.

 

I do have a NetUSBee attached to my Mega STe but I've never even once tried

the USB part of it. No need for me. I use the NetUSBee for UIP-Tool and transferring

files across my LAN or even wirelessly with the PicoWiFi setup. It's great!

 

EDIT: Oh, okay - It finally sunk in - in your last post you're saying that the NetUSBee

would be a good backup device for anyone with an actual hard drive (spinning platters

and all!). Gotcha.