techntools Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 See Wizard of War got a Pass grade on the compatibility list. My copy does not work…can anyone confirm? Is it a different version than the homebrew from Champ Games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) https://atariage.com/software_page.php?SoftwareLabelID=598 Edited December 3, 2023 by Thomas Jentzsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceInfinity Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Gorf is in the same boat. CBS game == yes, Champ Games (called Gorf Arcade) == sadly no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warboss Gegguz Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 At least the original ports of Gorf and Wizard of Wor aren't ABYSMAL, just sort of heavily compromised. They're not Pac-Man or DK in other words. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I was playing Wizard of Wor (CBS version) just yesterday. That plays fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, ForceInfinity said: Gorf is in the same boat. CBS game == yes, Champ Games (called Gorf Arcade) == sadly no Yeah none of the games that use additional chips are going to work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techntools Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, tradyblix said: Yeah none of the games that use additional chips are going to work Wow that is a fact that should have been more publicized…bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, techntools said: Wow that is a fact that should have been more publicized…bummer. I mean, they don't even run on my emulator on other devices, either. Nor on Harmony cart. I personally, this might not be a popular opinion, but I would like devs to focus on compatibility for those games and not "cheat" by adding ARM chips in. Yeah I know they technically work on OG hardware, if you still have a CRT setup or room for one, but I've been able to enjoy, or pay for exactly $0 of Champ Games' hard work over the last 5-6 years due to this. Meanwhile I'm playing all the classics and some homebrews like Juno First fine. Even on my 2600+ Edited December 4, 2023 by tradyblix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 52 minutes ago, tradyblix said: I mean, they don't even run on... Nor on Harmony cart. Most of them (<=32K) should run on Harmony cart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradyblix Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Most of them (<=32K) should run on Harmony cart. OK sounds good. I think I tried Penult and it was fine. I know the Turbo demo didn't work. I think I tried that. Then when I was trying to emulate a bunch of Champ Games ones that are desirable to me didn't work (ie the demos from their site). I guess it's really Turbo Arcade that really really appeals to me (not out yet anyhow) I need to find my harmony cart, I found my old mac that had it's harmony cart driver showing up as a network interface and I want to see if I can flash it since my newer comps can't for some reason. Naturally I lost it in the last 2 days in the mess that is my home Edited December 4, 2023 by tradyblix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 My PAL Wizard of Wor cart works just fine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_from_the_80s Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 hours ago, tradyblix said: I personally, this might not be a popular opinion, but I would like devs to focus on compatibility for those games and not "cheat" by adding ARM chips in. I probably wasn't gonna say it anywhere, but I kind of feel the same way. I don't mind people making these games, but they are not to 2600 spec, they "cheat" as it were, with extra hardware. Now, there is precedent, but still. People should have tempered expectations for those. Even so, I'm not certain they will "never" work, given enough time and some clever firmware enhancements. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, Brad_from_the_80s said: I probably wasn't gonna say it anywhere, but I kind of feel the same way. I don't mind people making these games, but they are not to 2600 spec, they "cheat" as it were, with extra hardware. Now, there is precedent, but still. People should have tempered expectations for those. Even so, I'm not certain they will "never" work, given enough time and some clever firmware enhancements. The 2600+ is capable of running such games, it just isn't capable of dumping the code used by the extra chips. There's a couple possible ways to work around that, but they are less than ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Brad_from_the_80s said: they are not to 2600 spec The 2600+ too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 1:50 PM, Dr Karnov said: My PAL Wizard of Wor cart works just fine Glad to see this as I just bought one off eBay! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sean_1970 said: Glad to see this as I just bought one off eBay! It's a fantastic game Edited December 6, 2023 by Dr Karnov 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSword Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I just got my 2600+ a few days ago. Wizard of Wor (NTSC version) was one of the first games I tried and it worked fine (after I realized I needed to switch the game controller over to the right port). It's a tough game for me, but still good fun. Hopefully I'll get better at it with some more practice. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, MysticSword said: (after I realized I needed to switch the game controller over to the right port). Hm, usually Stella will do that for you. Maybe you have an unknown ROM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSword Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Hm, usually Stella will do that for you. Maybe you have an unknown ROM? Could be. I bought the cartridge on Ebay. I never had or played Wizard of Wor on an original Atari 2600 way back in the day, but it is a classic game I recall playing in the arcade (and it was darn tuff then too, haha). Edited December 9, 2023 by MysticSword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 1:26 AM, Sean_1970 said: Glad to see this as I just bought one off eBay! Me too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 7:53 PM, JetmanUK said: Me too! And my fleabay old copy works just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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