raz0red Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, remowilliams said: NTSC Crossbow very much not working: 2024-01-24 17-46-56.mp4 3.17 MB · 0 downloads Yeah, we have looked at this. It isn’t a different cart variation, but some cartridges (or consoles) are able to dump correctly, others do not. In one case it was the 16k rom that would not dump correctly (The other 128k one was dumping fine). Later tonight, I will send you a debug build with which you can gather diagnostics. If the two issues appear similar we may be able to come up with some solution. Thanks UPDATE: @RevEng beat me to it. 🙂 Edited January 24 by raz0red 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 @JetmanUK My Moonsweeper is also exactly the same as that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I just went through my homebrew library with the following results. I have some of the "Trak Ball" editions of games, which I have not tested, yet. (Apologies for the weird formatting... the Invision editor is a harsh mistress.) Atari 7800: 7800 Game Results Baby Pac-Man No video Rikki & Vikki Loading Game Failed Scramble 7800 Works Atari 2600: Game Results Alien Greed 6 Works Bee Ball Works Assembloids 2600 Works Draconian Scrolling rainbow Stay Frosty 2 No video, or scrambled video with noise (no game play) Galagon Scrolling rainbow Juno First Works Ketchup Kaboom! Works MAPPY Scrolling rainbow Scramble Loading Game Failed Sheep it Up! Works ultraSCSIcide Works 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, remowilliams said: Robot Tank (works, yay) For M-Network not listed (all working): Adventures of Tron Air Raiders Armor Ambush Astroblast (loads, no control) Dark Cavern Frogs and Flies International Soccer Lock N Chase Space Attack Super Challenge Baseball Super Challenge Football Kool Aid Man NTSC white shell Time Pilot not working: 2024-01-20 10-06-46.mp4 1.39 MB · 0 downloads Astroblast works with paddle controller. Thomas Jentzsch pointed out to me it’s suppose to work with either joystick or Paddles but it only works with paddles at this time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 28 minutes ago, Dr Karnov said: @JetmanUK My Moonsweeper is also exactly the same as that Moonsweeper works on mine (NTSC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Here are the results of my M-Network games: Frogs and Flies Works Adventures of Tron Works Armor Ambush Works Astroblast Loads up, but does not seem to play Burger Time Loads up, but does not seem to play Works Dark Cavern Works International Soccer Works Kool-Aid Man Scrambled graphics, does not play Lock 'n' Chase Works Masters of the Universe The Power of He-Man Works Space Attack Works Star Strike Works Super Challenge Baseball Loads up, but I have no idea how to work it Super Challenge Football Loads up, but I have no idea how to work it Tron Deadly Discs Works Really, people here have far more than I have in my library, but I am willing to test any of these. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: Moonsweeper works on mine (NTSC) I believe my Moonsweeper is PAL, Pick & Pile too. They both have a unique glitchy graphical issue. It's been the same on all firmware and dumpers so far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, OLD CS1 said: Here are the results of my M-Network games: Frogs and Flies Works Adventures of Tron Works Armor Ambush Works Astroblast Loads up, but does not seem to play Burger Time Loads up, but does not seem to play Dark Cavern Works International Soccer Works Kool-Aid Man Scrambled graphics, does not play Lock 'n' Chase Works Masters of the Universe The Power of He-Man Works Space Attack Works Star Strike Works Super Challenge Baseball Loads up, but I have no idea how to work it Super Challenge Football Loads up, but I have no idea how to work it Tron Deadly Discs Works Really, people here have far more than I have in my library, but I am willing to test any of these. Wow! That's a great collection of carts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoTJ Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 For some reason the AtariDumper is not recognizing my 2600+. I did the first update with no issue, but now this one isn't finding the console. TV Type is in B-W, holding the game reset switch when I power on, PC makes chime, but when I open the dumper it's sitting at Unrecognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TornadoTJ said: For some reason the AtariDumper is not recognizing my 2600+. I did the first update with no issue, but now this one isn't finding the console. TV Type is in B-W, holding the game reset switch when I power on, PC makes chime, but when I open the dumper it's sitting at Unrecognized. The same happened with mine. The first time it only seemed to work in 2.0 USB port. Now it works in 3.0 USB port. Thats in my case. Try different USB ports also make sure to use the cable that came with the console. Edited January 24 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, TornadoTJ said: For some reason the AtariDumper is not recognizing my 2600+. I did the first update with no issue, but now this one isn't finding the console. TV Type is in B-W, holding the game reset switch when I power on, PC makes chime, but when I open the dumper it's sitting at Unrecognized. The dumper is B&W + GAME SELECT. The firmware RKDevTool is COLOR+GAME RESET. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoTJ Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, OLD CS1 said: The dumper is B&W + GAME SELECT. The firmware RKDevTool is COLOR+GAME RESET. DOH!!! HAHA! Brain fart. It works now. Thanks! That's why I posted all the steps I was taking! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I will throw in a "me, too," on NTSC Crossbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbob Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Hi Ben and team, Thank you for the update, Tower Toppler looks so much better now! I realize this update wasn’t focused on 2600 homebrew yet so I wasn’t surprised that HERO 2 still doesn’t work. Do you have a HERO 2 cart available to you that you can test? Would you like to borrow mine? Or if you would have any specific updates you want me to try for this game just let me know! I’m glad to help out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuff Dam Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, JetmanUK said: I believe my Moonsweeper is PAL, Pick & Pile too. They both have a unique glitchy graphical issue. It's been the same on all firmware and dumpers so far. My Moonsweeper PAL is acting like this as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, OLD CS1 said: Here are the results of my M-Network games: Astroblast Loads up, but does not seem to play Burger Time Loads up, but does not seem to play I also found that Astroblast works with paddle on the Plus, but not joystick. On original hardware, it works with either controller. After upgrading to the latest ROM Dumper 1.x.x.9 and firmware 1.1 beta, BurgerTime runs with no issue. It didn't load with the original firmware. Robot Tank now also runs with these updates, as does my Good Deal Games release 1-vs-1 Basketball. All four of these carts are NTSC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smog-097 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Any way to reduce the jitter in paddle games? Video Olympics is way too sensitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, LS650 said: After upgrading to the latest ROM Dumper 1.x.x.9 and firmware 1.1 beta, BurgerTime runs with no issue. It looks like the difficulty switch might act as a pause switch. Once I moved the switch to the left, the game started playing. So, Burger Time does work for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just curious if the composite smoothing fix works on 7800 Missing In Action? The crashing issue may be similar to 7800 Crossbow. I seem to remember that Crossbow was shipped on two different cart boards. C300565 and C100339. Maybe one is dumping correctly and the other is not working? The 2600 Signal Tracing Cart does not show a screen or even have a ROM. It is only a circuit board with a few components designed to put certain signals on the bus so that testing/repairs can be made on a 2600 system board. Mitch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmah1979 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Hi Ben, When you have a free moment (I can tell your always working by your posts) can you see what's up with Kung Fu Master? It was a game that passed compatibility but after trying on 2 different + consoles it has loads of issues. The game starts up like it should. But after a few seconds bugs start to tear their ugly head and it's totally random each time at when it happens Some of the issues I've encountered: The game will randomly reset It will throw you on another floor when you're not even done with the one youre on You'll get stuck in place. You'll turn invisible (then the game will reset) You'll teleport (really!) Through a floor before the game freezes Oh and high scores which you didn't earn. This score was achieved in less than 15 seconds of starting! If you can figure this out, would be greatly appreciated! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Popeye 7800 now runs! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody2000 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I find it interesting that people are having a lot of issues with coleco and m network games cause as far as I know all of mine are working last time I tested them which wasn't all that long ago Kool aid man worked fine mouse trap works fine carnival works fine I almost wonder if it's as much as a console by console basis issue as it is a software issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody2000 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, timmah1979 said: Hi Ben, When you have a free moment (I can tell your always working by your posts) can you see what's up with Kung Fu Master? It was a game that passed compatibility but after trying on 2 different + consoles it has loads of issues. The game starts up like it should. But after a few seconds bugs start to tear their ugly head and it's totally random each time at when it happens Some of the issues I've encountered: The game will randomly reset It will throw you on another floor when you're not even done with the one youre on You'll get stuck in place. You'll turn invisible (then the game will reset) You'll teleport (really!) Through a floor before the game freezes Oh and high scores which you didn't earn. This score was achieved in less than 15 seconds of starting! If you can figure this out, would be greatly appreciated! Try it on original hardware if it doesn't work there either than it's the cart with games this old it's something you have to take into account unfortunately seems the carts that have the higher failure rate are the cbs ram plus carts as I had a tunnel runner cart die on me nothing else has ever died on me yet tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Thanks Ben and all. My PAL Pac-Man that arrived yesterday in the post now has ghosts that can be seen all the time. Although it was funny playing with invisible ghosts for a bit last night. My 11 year old son will pleased tonight when he gets home tonight from school. As a noob to this forum, can I just say I'm learning so much from all your posts. I'm learning so much about software engineering, how the atari works etc and although I'd never be able to do what some of you talented people can do, its so interesting watching and learning. Now.. roll on pay day so I can get some more carts. 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmah1979 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Cody2000 said: Try it on original hardware if it doesn't work there either than it's the cart with games this old it's something you have to take into account unfortunately seems the carts that have the higher failure rate are the cbs ram plus carts as I had a tunnel runner cart die on me nothing else has ever died on me yet tho It was tested before I bought it on Monday and ran flawless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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